Will we make the transition from type 0 to type 1 civilization?

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Unity

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Sep 13, 2012
 
Civilization implications

There are many historical examples of human civilization undergoing large-scale transitions, such as the Industrial Revolution. The transition between Kardashev scale levels could potentially represent similarly dramatic periods of social upheaval, since they entail surpassing the hard limits of the resources available in a civilization's existing territory. A common speculation[18] suggests that the transition from Type 0 to Type I might carry a strong risk of self-destruction since, in some scenarios, there would no longer be room for further expansion on the civilization's home planet, similar to a Malthusian catastrophe. Excessive use of energy without adequate disposal of heat, for example, could plausibly make the planet of a civilization approaching Type I unsuitable to the biology of the dominant life-forms and their food sources. If Earth is an example, then sea temperatures in excess of 35 °C would jeopardize marine life and make the cooling of mammals to temperatures suitable for their metabolism difficult if not impossible. Of course, these theoretical speculations may not become problems in reality due to evolution or the application of future engineering and technology. Also, by the time a civilization reaches Type I it may have colonized other planets or created O'Neill-type colonies, so the amount of waste heat could be distributed throughout the solar system.
Annie

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Sep 13, 2012
 
the guys on here are more of a type 0.1 civilisation. So if they are anything to go on we have a way to go as a planet. Luckily outside this forum most people are closer to 1 than to 0. I guess they need to harness heat given off in energy consumption to create more energy....There is quite a bit of hot air here that could start off a renewable energy revolution :)
Small Town America UGX

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Sep 13, 2012
 
Harumph !! While some, like Pissy and others are definetly o.1, There are others, like Abe, Pro-Ukranian and myself, for example who are definetly 1.0 and even 2.0.

And it seems, you forgot that the worst air polluters are females, i.e. Stefanya and sunshine/ASSandra. Both 0.0.0, So go smoke that in your pipe, young lady.

And you females are from Venus, too.
Annie

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Sep 13, 2012
 
"guys" = male and female hot air machines.
Small Town America UGX

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Sep 13, 2012
 
Annie wrote:
"guys" = male and female hot air machines.
O. K.
Raj at Earth

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Nov 2, 2012
 
Why not shoot for the stars and work towards the Class V (godlike) civilization.
Raj Chanani

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#7
Jan 12, 2013
 
I think the Human Animal has limits. I don't think the selfish humans will ever get beyond a type 0 civilization. In my openion, when the oil, gas and coal runs out in the next 150 years, there will be major resource wars around the world and the people will kill each other to extinction. For sure in 10,000 years, Humanity will cease to exsist in the Universe.
Mankind

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Jan 15, 2013
 
Raj Chanani wrote:
I think the Human Animal has limits. I don't think the selfish humans will ever get beyond a type 0 civilization. In my openion, when the oil, gas and coal runs out in the next 150 years, there will be major resource wars around the world and the people will kill each other to extinction. For sure in 10,000 years, Humanity will cease to exsist in the Universe.
I hope not what a sad thought. Surely we will unite as one by then
Raj Chanani

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Jan 16, 2013
 
Mankind wrote:
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I hope not, what a sad thought. Surely we will unite as one by then
OK, it is possible that Humanity may get past the fossil fuel barrier. Nevertheless, I am worried, as to what Humanity will do in about 50 years when the oil runs out, in 150 years when gas and coal run out. I have noticed, that the car as wonderful as it is, needs constant maintainance. Humanity will have to come up with something simpler to transport them from one place to another.

I feel that some of the wild animals, such as Zebras, Goats and Kangaroos, are better suited to survival than Humanity. If you look at the Universe, look up into the sky, planet earth is nothing more than a speack of sand in a big beach. The 7 billion humans are nothing more than tiny viruses on this speck of sand.

I appluade the East Asian and European people for reducing their birth rate and trying to reduce the Human population. I mean growth to a point is good, you don't want your weight to keep growing, right? soon you will be 500 pounds.

Very good video on the Universe, please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Raj at Earth

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May 15, 2013
 
Fourth Dimension.
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I have worked on this idea for sometime, not that I am not working. Though, philosophy says we all do work. Even thinking, talking, eating, farting, pooping, bathing and other things are work.

1) You need three strings.
2) You need four wood sticks about 1 foot each.
3) Now, tie the first stick to the second stick perpendicular to each other, where they make a cross.
4) Put the crossed sticks aside.
5) Now, tie the third stick to the fourth stick perpendicular to each other, where they make a cross.
6) Now, take the first crossed sticks and the second crossed sticks and try your best to put them perpendicular to each other where all four sticks are pointing in the four dimensions.
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In my attempt, the fourth dimension collapses into the three dimensions. I think if you succeed, you will arrive to the fourth dimension.
Universe

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Sep 11, 2013
 
I had a dream about the future of Humanity. In a few million years, the Human species died out and their life energy returned to planet Earth. Some time later, new species started to evolve on the planet. We call the new species, the balaka species (black people), the wataka species (white people), the desaka species (desi people), the araka species (arab people), the oraka species (oriental people), the eartaka species (earther people).

These new species had better capacity to handle pain and pleasure. The negative and positive that the world has to offer. The new species had a better halo. The balaka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 2100. The wataka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 2500. The desaka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 2300. The araka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 2600. The oraka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 3100. The eartaka species halo ranged from 1000 to 5000, averaging 2200.

Some billions of years later, all of these species died out and planet Earth hurled itself toward the planet Jupiter. Soon, Mars, Venus, Mercury also merged into planet Jupiter. Planet Cerus merged into Saturn. Planet Pluto, Uranus and Neptune merged to form a larger planet Neptune. In total three larger planets remained, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune.

A few hundred billion years later the Solar system merged with the galactic core. Some time later, the galaxy merged with other galaxies and poof that was the end of the Universe. We can't know beyond that.

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