Russia 'sends modern arms to Syria'

Russia 'sends modern arms to Syria'

There are 4533 comments on the BBC News story from May 17, 2013, titled Russia 'sends modern arms to Syria'. In it, BBC News reports that:

The New York Times quotes unnamed US officials as saying the missiles could be used to counter any potential future foreign military intervention in Syria.

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Since: Apr 11

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#3221 Nov 5, 2013
waleed sadat wrote:
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You are a hypocrite and apologist for radical Islam. Veterans today, which you cite as holly scripture is on the Southern Povery Law Centers list of hate groups
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2011/01/06/buye...
Give it up, old man. You are a liar and fraud. Who pays you to shill for radical Islam?
.

Shut it Waleed, you know not that of which you spout about.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#3223 Nov 5, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Shut it Waleed, you know not that of which you spout about.
LOL!!
nutjobs here

Israel

#3224 Nov 5, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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I not even read those idiots anymore. They are insane. It is a waste of time to debate crazy people.
you should look up the word 'debate' as you obviously don't know the meaning of the word. Have you ever debated here?
nutjobs here

Israel

#3225 Nov 5, 2013
Gray wrote:
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WHO TO BELIEVE A PAID, FULL TIME, SCRIPTED PROVEN "DECEPTIONIST"/HASBA RAT
OR
THE RED CROSS?
The same Red Cross which changed the definition of the WB to occupied from disputed with no legal basis?

The Red Cross boycotted the Magen David Adom for half a century, while it granted full membership to "benefactors of humanity" such as North Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq.

As a condition to Magen David Adom joining the International Red Cross in 2006, the Israeli branch agreed to remove its trademark red Star of David from ambulances in Judea and Samaria.

The Red Cross called the Jenin battle a massacre before the information came out. It was proven that there was no massacre.

They have a dozen offices in Palestinian areas but only one in Israel.

The Palestinians often used Red Cross ambulances to transfer terrorists and weapons, suicide bombs etc, during the intifada.
Hamas terrorists were hidden in Red Cross offices in Jerusalem a few years ago.

Red Cross never once asked to see Shalit a prisoner of Hamas.

Red Cross made numerous passports to help Nazis escape after the war, this included Death Camp commandants and Eichmann.

They based their denial of death camps on Theresienstadt a propaganda spot for the Nazis.

Questioned for having denied entry to the organization to the Jewish state for half a century, in 1996 then head of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Cornelio Sommaruga, answered:“If we’re going to have the Star of David, why would we not have to accept the Swastika?”.

Red Cross never condemned Hamas firing from civilian areas onto Israeli towns.

According to the LA Times, a top Red Cross official acknowledged the organization’s “moral failure” in keeping silent while the Nazis killed 6 million Jews.

“Very clearly, the ICRC’s activities with regard to the Holocaust are sensed as a moral failure,” said George Willemin, director of archives for the Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross.“The ICRC admits — yes — that it has kept silent with regard to the Holocaust.”

International Committee of the Red Cross President Cornelio Sommaruga (author of the “swastika” comment above) echoed those sentiments.“Believe me, every moment spent today on our humanitarian responsibilities to assist the victims of war and political violence reminds me of our institution's moral failure with regard to the Holocaust,” he told news correspondents..
Swiss historian Jean-Claude Favez, who conducted an 8-year review of the Red Cross records, says that even though the Red Cross knew by November 1942 about the Nazi’s annihilation plans for the Jews — and even discussed it with U.S. officials — the group did nothing to inform the public, maintaining silence even in the face of pleas by Jewish groups.
http://www.mishpacha.com/Browse/Article/108/T...

Red Cross officials were told by prisoners of the gas chambers in Auschwitz but ignored it.
It gave Palestinian Red Crescent $30M but gave Israeli version only $300,000.

We have had this conversation before as you are probably well aware. I have added more information this time.

Red Cross ignored and hid the atrocities against Jews in Holocaust Treat Israel different to any country in the world, double standard at every turn. Even a hater like yourself can see this.

IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU WILL IGNORE THESE MOSTLY INDISPUTABLE FACTS WHICH SHOW RED CROSS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST JEWS AND ISRAEL.

As for Deir Yassin, Ive discussed this with many people over the years from all walks of life and IMO it was a war and not a massacre. I admit though I could be wrong on this one but there are two sides to the story with viable statements supporting both sides. I also don't deny that there were some massacres by Jews.
nutjobs here

Israel

#3227 Nov 5, 2013
Gray wrote:
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Are you not the one who continuously answers people on this forum adding text into their quotes to pretend that they said these things?

The only things I have ever written that you have tried to dispute in any way are whether Jews of today are the original Jews. EVERTHING ELSE I HAVE STATED ON THIS FORUM YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN A VIABLE ANSWER TO. AND ITS YOU WHO IS TRYING TO PREACH TO ME?

LOOK AT HOW BIAS THE RED CROSS ARE BUT YOU STILL DENY REALITY.

you have still given no evidence the land is occupied or stolen, you just repeat others ingorance on the subject.

If what you said was true you would be able or at least try to back it up with some evidence.
The best you seem able to do is post the same links from websites on the same hate list you post for an anti-Jihad site.

If those with a bad opinion on Israel would dismiss all the lies the likes of your ilk post throughout the internet they may not feel the way that they do.
nutjobs here

Israel

#3228 Nov 5, 2013
Gray wrote:
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Are you not the one who continuously answers people on this forum adding text into their quotes to pretend that they said these things?

The only things I have ever written that you have tried to dispute in any way are whether Jews of today are the original Jews. EVERTHING ELSE I HAVE STATED ON THIS FORUM YOU HAVE NEVER GIVEN A VIABLE ANSWER TO. AND ITS YOU WHO IS TRYING TO PREACH TO ME?

LOOK AT HOW BIAS THE RED CROSS ARE BUT YOU STILL DENY REALITY.

you have still given no evidence the land is occupied or stolen, you just repeat others ignorance on the subject.

If what you said was true you would be able or at least try to back it up with some evidence.
The best you seem able to do is post the same links from websites on the same hate list you post for an anti-Jihad site.

If those with a bad opinion on Israel would dismiss all the lies the likes of your ilk post throughout the internet they may not feel the way that they do.

Since: Apr 11

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#3229 Nov 5, 2013
Shut it nutjobs, you're boring.
nutjobs here

Israel

#3230 Nov 5, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
Shut it nutjobs, you're boring.
yes the truth is often boring. I see you are more interested in excitement than reality or truth. Didn't realize that people came here for excitement.

rtloder

Since: Nov 12

Baulkham Hills, Australia

#3231 Nov 5, 2013
Apparently there was a secret meeting , Iran , many Arab Nations and Israel , about two weeks ago.
They were talking about a Nuclear Free Middle East.
I think Netanyahu is getting ready to apologize again.
Last time he done that , Erdogen went into a fit of laughter and only recovered when the Generals he imprisoned started pointing to the Kurds slaughtering his al-Qa'eda front line of defence , so he begged his now best's buddy Netanyahu to bomb Syria a few more times.
Which the Jewish shit house pig did , but probably for much more loss than gain.
Him and Zawahiri went to the same military tacticians school, the school for retarded morons wanting to play a role in a new James Bond film.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#3232 Nov 6, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
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yes the truth is often boring. I see you are more interested in excitement than reality or truth. Didn't realize that people came here for excitement.
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Shut it nutjobs, I don't give a toss about what you see or what you think,

you're a boring inconsequential little jew.
Gray

Glen Allen, VA

#3233 Nov 6, 2013
EVERYBODY'S WRONG BUT ISRAEL:
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>

Red Cross ignored and hid the atrocities against Jews in Holocaust Treat Israel different to any country in the world, double standard at every turn. Even a hater like yourself can see this.
IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT YOU WILL IGNORE THESE MOSTLY INDISPUTABLE FACTS WHICH SHOW RED CROSS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST JEWS AND ISRAEL.
As for Deir Yassin, Ive discussed this with many people over the years

SAME HASBARA SCRIPT CONTINUED.
You're a real piece of work!

Same Mantra...Everybody's wrong but Zionist Israel;

Critics of the Zionist Occupation, Genocide, War Crimes, Atrocities are either "Anti Semitic" if they're not Jewish and "Self Hating Jews if they ARE Jewish...that coveres everybody on the planet who's wrong or an "Israel Basher...

So you've got EVERYBODY covered; Quite a Scam or myopic delusion

The , Every Human Rights Group, Every Anti War Group the UN(except when it ignores proven atrocities), Jewish Voice for Peace, B'tselem etc etc and they're ALL wrong or "Anti Semitic"

So you've discussed Deir Yassin, "Ive discussed this with many people over the years from all walks of life"

What "People" were they:

“War Criminals From WW II Probably Living in Israel”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/08/war-c...
EXCERPTS “A recent Associated Press article reveals that about 500,000 Jews were part of the Communist Soviet Union’s Red Army and that about 7,000 of them are now living in Israel."CONTINUED
__________

The Red Cross findings are confirmed by the Ankara Documents AND the admissions/convictions of thousands of holy-co$t hucksters:

“Simon Wiesenthal Center website uses newly altered 1944 Auschwitz photo!”
http://www.air-photo.com/english/1999_mark.ht...
“WW2 photos continue to be re-touched in attempts to support Holocaust 'eye-witness' stories:
1. In 1945 hundreds of civilian and camp photos were altered for the Nuremberg trials,
2. In 1978 Auschwitz air photos were marked for U.S. government publication, and
3. In 1999 the Auschwitz photo below was re-touched for a Holocaust promotion website.
EXCERPT “Since the photo was first published in 1978 it was not reprinted before inclusion on the 1999 Simon Wiesenthal Center website, which means the smoke was added in early 1999 just before the photo was shown on the site. If these Holocaust promtion groups believe mass-murders occurred they would not be continuing to alter photos to support their own 'eye-witnesses'.” CONTINUED
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“The Most Famous Holocaust Photo a Fraud”
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.c...

“My All-Time Favourite Holocaust Frauds”
http://pauleisen.blogspot.com/2012/11/my-favo...

“Holocaust survivor's love story exposed as a fraud”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nor...

"A Holocaust survivor's acclaimed memoir about meeting his future wife across the wire fence of a concentration camp has been exposed as a fraud.

“Holocaust survivor scam nets $42.5 million, 17 charged in swindle: prosecutors”
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/holocau...

So THESE admissions of guilt/ exposed scans are wrong too?

I suppose the billions of educated Jews and non Jews around the world are ALL wrong, Anti Semitic or Self Hating Jews?

“ISRAEL; ONE OF MOST UNPOPULAR NATIONS”
http://www.globescan.com/commentary-and-analy...

Fortunately, not all Israelis are such blatant & dishonest delusional propagandists
Gray

Glen Allen, VA

#3234 Nov 6, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Shut it nutjobs, I don't give a toss about what you see or what you think,
you're a boring inconsequential little jew.
He and his fellow employees are getting paid to spout scripted propaganda whether they believe it or not.

“Israel Establishes Undercover Group of Paid Internet Propagandists”
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/07/israel-est...

EXCERPT “ Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.”
Hence the millions of dollars that go into everything from keeping tabs on NGOs, harassing academics and students who dissent, to trying to control and shape the Internet. It is well-known that Israeli agents via groups like Camera seek to doctor and tailor the content of sites like Wikipedia. Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.” CONTINUED

At least THIS Shill had the guts to confess what "nutjobs" won't

“Diary of an Israeli Shill”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/12/diary...

“How the Masters of the Universe Infect the Internet”
“I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet.“

CONFESSIONS OF A HASBARAT:
“My task?“To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic.
“That’s OK,” she said.“You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”
-------
“This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting.
“These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things.
-------
“It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for xxx, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges).“Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me.
----
“A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done
-----
“I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.” CONTINUED
Gray

Glen Allen, VA

#3235 Nov 6, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
you should look up the word 'debate' as you obviously don't know the meaning of the word. Have you ever debated here?
I'm interested to hear why you refuse to respond to the findings of Dr. Eran Elhaik; an ethical Jewish scientist:

“New Genome Study Destroys Zionist Claims to Palestine! Koestler’s Khazar History Vindicated ! Zionists Design Myth of Jewish Genome to Usurp Palestine!”
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2013/03/...
“ EXCERPT On December 14, 2012, Dr. Eran Elhaik turned almost two generations of Jewish genome research upside down.
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But he went even further. The young Israeli-American geneticist has charged former researchers with academic fraud, and he has the research to back it up.
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How could those those eminent Jewish scientist before him have been so wrong? Easy says Dr. Elhaik,“First these researchers decided what conclusions they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it.” I was not bashing Jewish scientists. What Elhaik has described is a slam dunk fraud.
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But why? Why would Jews who take such pride in the academic achievement risk exposing themselves to a group deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics, but I will gladly do so.
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They perpetrated the fraud solely to support the bogus biblical claim to Palestine which was anchored in their being a separate people. This distinguished them from all others because they claimed a land title in their blood.
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They bet the farm on this DNA proof of purchase, a God given bar coded passport to the Palestine. Dr. Ehaik just erased the bar code. It was just stamped on anyway, because it was never in the blood.”CONTINUED
======

“Johns Hopkins Genome Study of Jewish Origins”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/03/johns...

Is he an Anti Semite or a Self Hating Jew?

Since: Jul 11

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#3236 Nov 6, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
Iup deception which was bound to be discovered later? Dr. Elhaik does not delve into the quicksand of the politics, but I will gladly do s
They perpetrated the fraud solely to support the bogus biblical claim to Paley-of-jewish-origins
Is he an Anti Semite or a Self Hating Jew?
Your sick fixation on Israel isn't helping the Syrian refugees, the 9 million Syrians who are now homeless or the 150,000 dead Muslims killed by other Muslims.

Just keep repeating the same historic debunked lies over and over again, Greyed. You are a payed shill for Pakistan. You do nothing but spead more hate while Muslims slaughter each other in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc...

Since: Apr 11

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#3237 Nov 6, 2013
waleed sadat wrote:
<quoted text>
Your sick fixation on Israel isn't helping the Syrian refugees, the 9 million Syrians who are now homeless or the 150,000 dead Muslims killed by other Muslims.
Just keep repeating the same historic debunked lies over and over again, Greyed. You are a payed shill for Pakistan. You do nothing but spead more hate while Muslims slaughter each other in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc...
.

Shut up Waleed, USA is responsible for all the killings in the countries you mention.

If you can't see that you need glasses.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#3238 Nov 6, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
He and his fellow employees are getting paid to spout scripted propaganda whether they believe it or not.
“Israel Establishes Undercover Group of Paid Internet Propagandists”
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/07/israel-est...
EXCERPT “ Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.”
Hence the millions of dollars that go into everything from keeping tabs on NGOs, harassing academics and students who dissent, to trying to control and shape the Internet. It is well-known that Israeli agents via groups like Camera seek to doctor and tailor the content of sites like Wikipedia. Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.” CONTINUED
At least THIS Shill had the guts to confess what "nutjobs" won't
“Diary of an Israeli Shill”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/12/diary...
“How the Masters of the Universe Infect the Internet”
“I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet.“
CONFESSIONS OF A HASBARAT:
“My task?“To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic.
“That’s OK,” she said.“You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”
-------
“This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting.
“These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things.
-------
“It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for xxx, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges).“Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me.
----
“
-----
“I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.” CONTINUED
.

Thanks for info, I normally read and agree with all your posts.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#3239 Nov 6, 2013
Gray wrote:
<quoted text>
He and his fellow employees are getting paid to spout scripted propaganda whether they believe it or not.
“Israel Establishes Undercover Group of Paid Internet Propagandists”
http://azvsas.blogspot.com/2009/07/israel-est...
EXCERPT “ Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.”
Hence the millions of dollars that go into everything from keeping tabs on NGOs, harassing academics and students who dissent, to trying to control and shape the Internet. It is well-known that Israeli agents via groups like Camera seek to doctor and tailor the content of sites like Wikipedia. Zionism seeks to control all debate in which it has a stake.” CONTINUED
At least THIS Shill had the guts to confess what "nutjobs" won't
“Diary of an Israeli Shill”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/12/diary...
“How the Masters of the Universe Infect the Internet”
“I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet.“
CONFESSIONS OF A HASBARAT:
“My task?“To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic.
“That’s OK,” she said.“You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”
-------
“This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting.
“These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things.
-------
“It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for xxx, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges).“Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me.
----
“A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done
-----
“I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.” CONTINUED
Interesting!

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#3240 Nov 6, 2013
Syrian wrote:
<quoted text> Interesting!
Yeah. I have noticed that they apparently keep a dossier on me. That is what clues me on who the spies are: when they know too much about me going back years or even decades. Nobody keeps track of Obama that closely. So, I know something is wrong when they throw details about me that even I cannot remember.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#3241 Nov 6, 2013
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>.
Shut it nutjobs, I don't give a toss about what you see or what you think,
you're a boring inconsequential little jew.
You are saying this as if you have been saying anything important, but as we know you say nothing as usual except something rude and usually very racist. Try being brave for once and tell us about yourself instead of being this cowardly nerd and hiding behind fake names and locations.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#3242 Nov 6, 2013
waleed sadat wrote:
<quoted text>
Your sick fixation on Israel isn't helping the Syrian refugees, the 9 million Syrians who are now homeless or the 150,000 dead Muslims killed by other Muslims.
Just keep repeating the same historic debunked lies over and over again, Greyed. You are a payed shill for Pakistan. You do nothing but spead more hate while Muslims slaughter each other in Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc...
There is nothing we can do but ignore these idiots and let them babble, they are pure bigots and speak with their racist tongues without knowledge or intelligence.

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