Bolshevik Russia's Holodomor Famine-Genocides: Ethnic Cleansing

[Dr Lecter]

The Holodomor was Bolshevik Russia's genocide in which up to as many as 10 million Ukrainians perished through famine, terror, executions, and deportations.

The Holodomor was one of several criminal faminogenic genocides Bolshevik Russia committed to destroy resistance of several nations, Ukraine, Belarus, Don Cossack, Kuban Cossak, Kazakh, Moldavia and other nations to Russian imperialism and colonialism.

In Ukraine, the Holodomor genocides perpetrators were first and foremost these arch-criminals:

Secretary General of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (VKP(b) CC) Josef Stalin (Jugashvili);

VKP(b) CC member, Chair of the Council of People's Commissars of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) Viacheslav Molotov (Skriabin);

VKP(b) CC secretary Lazar Kaganovich;

VKP(b) CC secretary Pavel Posthaste;

VKP(b) CC member, Secretary General of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bolsheviks of Ukraine (KP(b)U) Stanislav Kosior;

VKP(b) CC member, Chair of the Union of People's Commissars of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic Vlad Chubar, and

VKP(b) CC member, Second Secretary of the KP(b)U CC Mendel Chatayevich.

Others such as Yevdokimov, the OGPU’s plenipotentiary in the North Caucasus, and

V. Balytsky, plenipotentiary of the OGPU in Ukraine

Nikolai Yezhov and Yagoda could be added to the inner circle.

Of course, the wider circle included their subordinates, and entirety of Bolshevik Russia's occupation force including hundreds of lower ranking Bolsheviks and hundreds of thousands of Red Army, NKVD secret police, and various "shock troops and Komsomol "volunteeers" who invaded the countryside and came from Russia proper did the actual dirty work.

In line with Russia's colonialism policy the Holodomor was followed by colonization of Ukraine, Kazakhstan and other areas ethnically cleanzed by Russians from Russia.

[Pesky army]

The attempt by Ukrainian nationalists to manipulate the historical facts in order to make Europe recognize the 'Goldomor' as 'genocidal famine' did not find the support among the EU members. European scholars and politicians agreed that the famine of 1932-1933 in the Soviet Union was NOT an attempt to destroy the Ukrainian nation, but an ineffective economic policy of the Communist governments of the Republics of the Soviet Union.

Read on...

[5th Musketeer]

Pesky army wrote:

The attempt by Ukrainian nationalists to manipulate the historical facts in order to make Europe recognize the 'Goldomor' as 'genocidal famine' did not find the support among the EU members. European scholars and politicians agreed that the famine of 1932-1933 in the Soviet Union was NOT an attempt to destroy the Ukrainian nation, but an ineffective economic policy of the Communist governments of the Republics of the Soviet Union.
Read on...

Pesky angel <3

[Pro Ukraine]

5th Musketeer wrote:

<quoted text>Pesky angel <3

Pesky idiot, more like.:-)

[Pesky army]

5th Musketeer wrote:

<quoted text>Pesky angel <3

Nothing, but the truth, they say.

[5th Musketeer]

Pro Ukraine wrote:

<quoted text>Pesky I like.:-)

I do too, booby!

[Pro Ukraine]

Pesky army wrote:

<quoted text>
Nothing, but the truth, they say.

That's why they say you're an idiot.

[hmmmm]

I usully don't touch the problem WHY Holodomor happened - I mainly stress that it was not against exclusivelly Ukrainians and that Ukrainians were doing everything in support of it themselves with their own commie hands....But if I may...- there is a lot of info to prove that Holodomor was indeed a result of stupid commie economical policy and had nothing to do with ethnic hatred towards ukrainians - when collectivisation of agreeculture started in early 1930-s - ukrainians didn't want to give their cattle to collective farms (in other regions of USSR the problem was not that accute and many peasants joined collective farms with their cattle)- so Ukrainians instead decided that they were smarter then all others and they cut private cattle so that to eat it right away and not to give to collective farms - as a result the next year (when draught happened and they harvested less then expected) they couldn't rely on such basics as milk, cheese, eggs etc - as all the hens and cattle had been cut previous year and eaten and meat sold by themselves - pretty stupid situation, right?- crop taxes were not eased for individuals all over USSR, but collective farms provided for its members in other regions where cattle was not cut and majority joined collective farms, but in Ukraine that opportunity was minimised by the fact that cattle was cut by peasants and collective farms themselves were poor - so famine started and peasants rushed to the cities in search for jobs to earn their daily bread - but at this moment Stalin realised that it would bring unrest in the cities as there were no so many jobs for millions of hungry people and those locals of the cities (who themselves were malnourished) would revolt in protest to such influx of hungry "migrants" - thats why cordones were established with the help of Red Army around cities to prevent migration - and then, naturally, real HOLODOMOR started...So was it deliberate genocide of ukrainians ?- NO, NO and NO - it is very well seen how events were unfolding - more to that in Stalin's commie brain collectivisation of agreeeculture had to bring prosperity and abundance of food to ukrainian pesants - thats what was the idea of communist collectivisation - stupid idea as many commie ideas, righ?- but THAT was the intention that went terribly wrong!...Where is here genocide, which (genocide) is deliberate anihilation of ethnic group?- stupid ukra-pukras try to use deaths of innocent people for their anti Russian agenda. Shame .

[5th Musketeer]

Didn't they kill a quarter of their livestock??

Droughts happen there about every 10 years?
There was a famine in 1921-1923, and another one in 1946.

The US had a drought in the early 30's (the "dust bowl") and since we needed grain ourselves, we refused to buy the gold the Soviet Union offered to sell, insisting on buying only their grain.

hmmmm, I think all this is important and should be included!

[Pesky army]

Somehow, they killed Ukras & livestocks.
They say, could not tell the difference, then.

[ShoutingGuard]

Haha, I stopped reading right after "10 million Ukrainians perished".

You are making a joke of this tragedy. About 2.5 million people died in famine all over USSR, and huge percentage of that were ethnic Russians.

Ukrainian neo-nazis are really brain dead if they think anybody will believe in this dribble.

[ShoutingGuard]

Well, whein I think better, all neo-nazis are brain-dead, they wouldn't be neo-nazis if they were not brain-dead.

[Pro Ukraine]

ShoutingGuard wrote:

Haha, I stopped reading right after "10 million Ukrainians perished".
You are making a joke of this tragedy. About 2.5 million people died in famine all over USSR, and huge percentage of that were ethnic Russians.
Ukrainian neo-nazis are really brain dead if they think anybody will believe in this dribble.

People whio claim 10 million are not neo nazis, you moron. Stalin apologists such as yourself always try and play down his crimes.

[Lukashenko is Dr Phil]

Pesky army wrote:

Somehow, they killed Ukras & livestocks.
They say, could not tell the difference, then.

They say plenty of those russian peasants georgy porgies put to work to clean up Ukrainka died later of the diseases they caught while dwelling in that pig sty.