Hero or villain? WWII partisan Bandera still animates Ukraine-Russia fight

There are 502 comments on the Sacramento Bee Newspaper story from Mar 28, 2014, titled Hero or villain? WWII partisan Bandera still animates Ukraine-Russia fight. In it, Sacramento Bee Newspaper reports that:

The rhetoric out of Moscow is consistent, bombastic and, to the Western ear, perhaps a bit puzzling: Ukraine today is run by thugs, fascists and Banderists.

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Live Free or Die

Waterbury, VT

#370 Aug 18, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
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I remember when that Nazi put up posters in Lviv celebrating the Galician SS.
Yushchenko did that? Geeze, I hope he's not planning on retiring in Florida.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#371 Aug 18, 2014
Pro Ukraine wrote:
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Only sickos vandalise graves, it was no doubt done by a drunken Russian.
From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse, that war criminal, that disgusting filthy Nazi, that International terrorist, that serial killer, that black bastard Obama.

On the TV ranting on about, how going into Iraq was a lot more justified, morally superior, than what Russia did in Crimea.

Someone should remind that black bastard that, the war in Iraq was an illegal war, that over a million innocent lives were murdered, about 6.000 USA troops were killed, about 20.000 USA troops have permanent injuries and about 6 million people were displaced.

There are no adjectives to describe and do justice to that scandalous Criminal Obama, that Hitler incarnate.
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#372 Aug 19, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse, that war criminal, that disgusting filthy Nazi, that International terrorist, that serial killer, that black bastard Obama.
Thank you for giving us an example of typical russian zxenophobic, racist, vulgar,

barbaric rants. The same ideas and philosophy that most ruskies have against

anyone who is not white russian.

Putin and his nazi organisations like Nashi and Pamyat encourage this thinking.

Many people are not safe on the streets of russian cities. Now in

Crimea, muslims are beaten and robbed because they are not russian.

You are the ignorant scumdogs of the planet without any decent sense of humanity.

No wonder no one ever wants to go to russia, the new nazi hellhole on earth.
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#373 Aug 19, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
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On the TV ranting on about, how going into Iraq was a lot more justified, morally superior, than what Russia did in Crimea.
Why don't you do the same and leave Crimea then..
US didn't claim Iraq as their own territory.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#374 Aug 19, 2014
tm clms wrote:
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Why don't you do the same and leave Crimea then..
US didn't claim Iraq as their own territory.
From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse, that war criminal, that disgusting filthy Nazi, that International terrorist, that serial killer, that black bastard Obama.

On the TV ranting on about, how going into Iraq was a lot more justified, morally superior, than what Russia did in Crimea.

Someone should remind that black bastard that, the war in Iraq was an illegal war, that over a million innocent lives were murdered, about 6.000 USA troops were killed, about 20.000 USA troops have permanent injuries and about 6 million people were displaced.

There are no adjectives to describe and do justice to that scandalous Criminal Obama, that Hitler incarnate.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#375 Aug 19, 2014
Live Free or Die wrote:
Porko issued orders for the Kosovo brigade to come home. They decided they'd rather become Albanians.
When did Putin do that?
George

Red Deer, Canada

#376 Aug 19, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse, that war criminal, that disgusting filthy Nazi, that International terrorist, that serial killer, that black bastard Obama.
On the TV ranting on about, how going into Iraq was a lot more justified, morally superior, than what Russia did in Crimea.
Someone should remind that black bastard that, the war in Iraq was an illegal war, that over a million innocent lives were murdered, about 6.000 USA troops were killed, about 20.000 USA troops have permanent injuries and about 6 million people were displaced.
There are no adjectives to describe and do justice to that scandalous Criminal Obama, that Hitler incarnate.
What has that got to do with grave vandalism moron???
Oliver Cromwell

Lytham, UK

#377 Aug 19, 2014
Live Free or Die wrote:
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Yushchenko did that? Geeze, I hope he's not planning on retiring in Florida.
I will try and find the headline from that time.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#378 Aug 19, 2014
tm clms wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you do the same and leave Crimea then..
US didn't claim Iraq as their own territory.
It claimed Guantanamo, with a lease in perpetuity. It even obtained it with a false flag called 'Remember the Maine".

Give it a rest. You're not equipped for this game.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#379 Aug 19, 2014
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
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Bandera murdered up to 100,000 Polish, in Wolyn massacre, and in Eastern Galicia.
Yes and 70 years ago the US dropped an atomic bomb on Japan and today are very strong allies, time forgives and heals, we cannot keep rehashing the past it gets us no where, look at the middle east, I doubt they will ever stop fighting their religious wars that started 5000 years ago, does anyone ever win?
George

Red Deer, Canada

#380 Aug 19, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
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It claimed Guantanamo, with a lease in perpetuity. It even obtained it with a false flag called 'Remember the Maine".
Give it a rest. You're not equipped for this game.
nor are you, that is bullshit

However he is correct
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#381 Aug 19, 2014
Natasha working wrote:
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Dioxin and plastic surgery. Some say dioxin head stuffed more botox to his ugly face than Putin and Medvedev combined.
Let's see how good you look after pumping some disoxins through your blood system.
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#382 Aug 19, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
<quoted text>From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse,.
Thank you for giving us an example of typical russian zxenophobic, racist, vulgar,

barbaric rants. The same ideas and philosophy that most ruskies have against

anyone who is not white russian.

Putin and his nazi organisations like Nashi and Pamyat encourage this thinking.

Many people are not safe on the streets of russian cities. Now in

Crimea, muslims are beaten and robbed because they are not russian.

You are the ignorant scumdogs of the planet without any decent sense of humanity.

No wonder no one ever wants to go to russia, the new nazi hellhole on earth.
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#383 Aug 19, 2014
SAVE YOURSELVES.

Barbarians like russians never ruled. They may have won a few battles

but they always dissolved into a society of abject decrepitude and just rotted away. Murderers and Thieves took over.

You better move to the west... if you can, if they will have you?
Pretend you are from Croatia.

.......run and Save yourselves.
dostavat

Toronto, Canada

#384 Aug 19, 2014
Ukrainian and Russian Leaders Will Meet as Rebels Continue to Falter
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/europ...
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#385 Aug 19, 2014
dostavat wrote:
Ukrainian and Russian Leaders Will Meet as Rebels Continue to Falter
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/europ...
Well anything would be better than russian citizens who are members of the russian military

trying to be leaders of ukrainian territory.

Ruskies do have a lot of nerve.
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#386 Aug 19, 2014
tm clms wrote:
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Let's see how good you look after pumping some disoxins through your blood system.
sorry...correction... that is "dioxins"
tm clms

Victoria, Canada

#387 Aug 19, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
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It claimed Guantanamo, with a lease in perpetuity. It even obtained it with a false flag called 'Remember the Maine".
Give it a rest. You're not equipped for this game.
You can't even follow a thread dummy. I was responding to a comment about Iraq. Guantanamo is hardly an analog to Crimea.

ruskie propagandists always look hard for some other issue that isn't connected to support their own atrocities.

You need to go back to propaganda training class. You will just attract more comments
to shoot stupid kremlin lies down.
Maybe go back to proving class where you kiss putin's ass for a few hours. Don't forget to lick your lips.
He will visit a Nashi blog pit next week. brush your teeth first.

You must be working with Dimwit100.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#388 Aug 20, 2014
George wrote:
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What has that got to do with grave vandalism moron???
From recent events in Ukraine, one thing sticks vividly in my mind, which is the filthy black chimp in the Whitehouse, that war criminal, that disgusting filthy Nazi, that International terrorist, that serial killer, that black bastard Obama.

On the TV ranting on about, how going into Iraq was a lot more justified, morally superior, than what Russia did in Crimea.

Someone should remind that black bastard that, the war in Iraq was an illegal war, that over a million innocent lives were murdered, about 6.000 USA troops were killed, about 20.000 USA troops have permanent injuries and about 6 million people were displaced.

There are no adjectives to describe and do justice to that scandalous Criminal Obama, that Hitler incarnate.
Zeppelin

Corryton, TN

#389 Aug 22, 2014
rio wrote:
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Don't even attempt to compare Bandera with Lincoln.
Bandera was a terrorist, a traitor, an anti-semite who welcomed the invasion of Ukraine and sided with the nazis.
Collaborators are no heroes.
Norway executed Quissling.
France executed Laval.
Slovakia executed Tisot, etc...
Nobody in these countries glorify traitors and collaborators.
Decent people try to erase them from the history of their country; they are a disgrace, a stain on the image of the country.
In Ukraine, there has been several attempt to rehabilitate Bandera and make him an acceptable figure of the past. It's a disgrace and it is shameful!
What you say is true, but nevertheless Bandera is a role model to many in Kiev, and to many Ukrainian ex-pats living in Canada.

Of course decent people revile his memory.

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