Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 shot down over Ukraine, 295 dead, 27 Australians on board

Jul 17, 2014 Full story: The Age 1,148

London : A Malaysia Airlines plane en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has been shot down in separatist-controlled eastern Ukraine, claiming the lives of 295 passengers and crew.

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Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1121 Aug 21, 2014
Its a bit dodgey......everytime there's a topic of important international news , Topix is flooded with endless turdskin and muslim post to bury the news. It happens like clockwork .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#1122 Aug 22, 2014
Foo wrote:
I think more attrocities are happening as we speak in Ukraine and the media controllers don't want us to know........Putin is also trying to give humanitarian aid to people in Ukraine , and the media definately want to keep that out of the news !
The media are very quiet on Ukraine lately ever since they joined up with PM Tony Abbott to lay the blame for the plane crash on the Russians that led to Vlad putting a trade embargo on most everything Australia exports to Russia .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#1123 Aug 22, 2014
RUSSIAN TERRORISTS wrote:
Yes, Russia is responsible for this murder of 298 innocent civilians, and all the world knows it.
All the world within your mind knows it eh ?
What proof does your mind portray ?
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1124 Aug 22, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
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All the world within your mind knows it eh ?
What proof does your mind portray ?
(lol)
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1125 Aug 22, 2014
It has just been reported that Russia has began moving the aid trucks towards Luhansk , after growing tired of hearing stupid excuses from Ukraine government (and associates) to try and prevent Russian aide reaching the Ukraine poeple....
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1126 Aug 22, 2014
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Russia pushing ahead with humanitarian convoy for Ukraine without permission

Updated August 22, 2014 19:24:11
Russian military convoy near the Ukraine border Photo: Russia says it is pushing ahead with a convoy carrying humanitarian aid to Ukraine.(Reuters: Maxim Shemetov)
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Russia has sent the first trucks of a massive aid convoy into war-torn eastern Ukraine after saying it was tired of reassuring Kiev that it was not being used to smuggle in weapons to pro-Kremlin insurgents.

Kiev and Moscow have been at loggerheads for more than a week over a convoy of 280 Russian trucks carrying water, food and medicine.

Ukraine and Western leaders has expressed concern Russia will use the vehicles to smuggle in weapons to pro-Kremlin insurgents, who have been battling government forces for more than four months. An accusation Moscow denies.

The decision appeared to have also been taken without the authorisation of an International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) team that is overseeing the diplomatically-charged mission.

"We can no longer stand this outrage, these open-faced lies and (Kiev's) refusal to reach an agreement. Russia has decided to act," the foreign ministry said in a statement.

"Our humanitarian aid column is starting to move in the direction of Luhansk," it said in reference to the devastated eastern Ukrainian city which has suffered some of the most severe recent fighting and has been cut off from water and power supplies for nearly three weeks.

A witness at a border post told AFP news agency the first 10 Russian trucks had crossed the frontier and reached a customs point inside Ukraine.

It was not immediately clear when or if the vehicles would be allowed to move any further.

An unconfirmed report by Russia's state-run RIA Novosti news agency said a few of the trucks had already left the Ukrainian checkpoint and started to drive towards Luhansk.

An unnamed Ukrainian official told Interfax: "The convoy started to move on its own, without consent from the Ukrainian side and unaccompanied by the Red Cross."

Several of the nearly 300 vehicles had been cleared by both countries' customs authorities on Thursday and were waiting for the green light to enter Ukraine from the ICRC.

The ICRC said it would not launch the aid delivery mission until it receives firm security assurances from both Kiev and the insurgents that the convoy will not be attacked.

The Russian foreign ministry appeared to suggest that Moscow has decided to act even without the Red Cross's permission.

"We of course are ready to have (the convoy) accompanied by the ICRC, and for its involvement in aid distribution," it said.

It charged that Kiev was presenting a growing number of "new and artificial demands and pretexts, which is turning into a mockery."

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russian president Vladimir Putin was aware of the convoy's movements but could not confirm if the Russian president himself had issued the order for the trucks to cross into Ukraine.
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1127 Aug 22, 2014
Bottom line here = people stuck in the warzone are without food , water or medical supplies , and have been for about three weeks........Ukraine government and associates don't care , Putin does . This Russian convoy of aid was put together and delivered by the ICRC in conjunction with Russian government....

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#1128 Aug 22, 2014
Foo wrote:
Bottom line here = people stuck in the warzone are without food , water or medical supplies , and have been for about three weeks........Ukraine government and associates don't care , Putin does . This Russian convoy of aid was put together and delivered by the ICRC in conjunction with Russian government....
Quite simple ; Putin has to go to the UN and demand the security council take action to support those he is trying to help .
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1129 Aug 22, 2014
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Quite simple ; Putin has to go to the UN and demand the security council take action to support those he is trying to help .
Exactly Neville.......and if he is totally up front and transparent , they will have no choice to accept his demand , and do the right thing , while the whole world watches.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#1130 Aug 22, 2014
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly Neville.......and if he is totally up front and transparent , they will have no choice to accept his demand , and do the right thing , while the whole world watches.
It's about time Russia invaded Ukraine, kicked all the Nazis out and brought stability and peace to the region.
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1131 Aug 22, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
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It's about time Russia invaded Ukraine, kicked all the Nazis out and brought stability and peace to the region.
The way I see it , that's exactly what Putin is trying to do.......but not in a reckless way .....considering the obvious campaign against him , and Russia since the plane crash , he has been as solid as a rock , and is the only leader involved who has his people's interest at heart.

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#1132 Aug 22, 2014
Foo wrote:
<quoted text>The way I see it , that's exactly what Putin is trying to do.......but not in a reckless way .....considering the obvious campaign against him , and Russia since the plane crash , he has been as solid as a rock , and is the only leader involved who has his people's interest at heart.
Yes, excellent post indeed, I agree with your analysis 100%
Foo

Camp Mountain, Australia

#1133 Aug 22, 2014
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Ukraine accuses Russia of 'direct invasion' after aid convoy crosses border without permission

Updated August 23, 2014 05:10:04
Russian military convoy near the Ukraine border Photo: Russia says it is pushing ahead with a convoy carrying humanitarian aid to Ukraine.(Reuters: Maxim Shemetov)
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Ukraine's security chief has accused Russia of a "direct invasion", claiming a disputed aid convoy Moscow sent across the border is being used to smuggle weapons to pro-Kremlin insurgents.

Up to 90 trucks carrying aid to civilians in rebel-held areas of eastern Ukraine have crossed the border on their way to the rebel stronghold of Luhansk.

Kiev and Moscow have been at loggerheads for more than a week over a convoy of 280 Russian trucks carrying water, food and medicine.

Ukraine and Western leaders have expressed concern Russia will use the vehicles to smuggle in weapons to rebels in the area who have been battling government forces for more than four months an accusation Moscow denies.

"Under the cynical guise of the Red Cross these are military vehicles," Valentyn Nalyvaychenko, the head of Ukraine's SBU security agency, was quoted as saying by Interfax Ukraine news agency.

Another security official said Moscow was "exclusively responsible" for the security of the convoy as it crosses rebel-held territory.

The International Committee for the Red Cross (ICRC), which both Moscow and Kiev had agreed should supervise the convoy, said it would not escort the trucks "due to the volatile security situation".

Russia says the aid trucks contain food, medical supplies, water and some clothing.

Moscow has expressed impatience with holdups at the frontier.

"All excuses to delay sending aid have been exhausted. The Russian side has taken the decision to act," the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement.
Russia warns against 'disrupting' convoy

Moscow, which has thousands of troops close on the Russian side of the border, warned against any attempt to "disrupt" the convoy but did not specify what action it was prepared to take if Kiev's forces intervened.

"Responsibility for any possible consequences of provocations ... will lie, completely and entirely, with those who are prepared to further sacrifice human lives for the sake of their ambitions and geo-political ploys," the statement said.

Kiev, for its part, said Ukrainian forces would not attack the convoy and had allowed it to pass to avoid "provocations".

"Ukraine will liaise with the International Committee of the Red Cross so that we, Ukraine, are not involved in provocations [accusations] that we have been holding up or using force against the vehicles of so-called aid," state security chief Valentyn Nalivaychenko said.

In response to a question whether Ukraine would use air strikes against the convoy, Mr Nalivaychenko said: "Against them, no."

But Ukrainian authorities said the convoy would pass through an area where the rebels were firing and that therefore its security could not be guaranteed.

Luhansk has suffered some of the most severe fighting and has been cut off from water and power supplies for nearly three weeks.

Several of the nearly 300 vehicles had been cleared by both countries' customs authorities on Thursday and were waiting for the green light to enter Ukraine from the ICRC.

The ICRC said it would not launch the aid delivery mission until it receives firm security assurances from both Kiev and the insurgents that the convoy will not be attacked.

Since: Apr 11

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#1134 Aug 22, 2014
Foo wrote:
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Ukraine accuses Russia of 'direct invasion' after aid convoy crosses border without permission
Updated August 23, 2014 05:10:04
Russian military convoy near the Ukraine border Photo: Russia says it is pushing ahead with a convoy carrying humanitarian aid to Ukraine.(Reuters: Maxim Shemetov)
Related Story: Kiev says two Russian vehicles captured in east Ukraine
Related Story: 17 bodies found after rocket hits Ukraine refugee convoy
Map: Ukraine
Ukraine's security chief has accused Russia of a "direct invasion", claiming a disputed aid convoy Moscow sent across the border is being used to smuggle weapons to pro-Kremlin insurgents.
Up to 90 trucks carrying aid to civilians in rebel-held areas of eastern Ukraine have crossed the border on their way to the rebel stronghold of Luhansk.
Kiev and Moscow have been at loggerheads for more than a week over a convoy of 280 Russian trucks carrying water, food and medicine.
Ukraine and Western leaders have expressed concern Russia will use the vehicles to smuggle in weapons to rebels in the area who have been battling government forces for more than four months an accusation Moscow denies.
"Under the cynical guise of the Red Cross these are military vehicles," Valentyn Nalyvaychenko, the head of Ukraine's SBU security agency, was quoted as saying by Interfax Ukraine news agency.
Another security official said Moscow was "exclusively responsible" for the security of the convoy as it crosses rebel-held territory.
The International Committee for the Red Cross (ICRC), which both Moscow and Kiev had agreed should supervise the convoy, said it would not escort the trucks "due to the volatile security situation".
Russia says the aid trucks contain food, medical supplies, water and some clothing.
Moscow has expressed impatience with holdups at the frontier.
"All excuses to delay sending aid have been exhausted. The Russian side has taken the decision to act," the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement.
Russia warns against 'disrupting' convoy
Moscow, which has thousands of troops close on the Russian side of the border, warned against any attempt to "disrupt" the convoy but did not specify what action it was prepared to take if Kiev's forces intervened.
"Responsibility for any possible consequences of provocations ... will lie, completely and entirely, with those who are prepared to further sacrifice human lives for the sake of their ambitions and geo-political ploys," the statement said.
Kiev, for its part, said Ukrainian forces would not attack the convoy and had allowed it to pass to avoid "provocations".
"Ukraine will liaise with the International Committee of the Red Cross so that we, Ukraine, are not involved in provocations [accusations] that we have been holding up or using force against the vehicles of so-called aid," state security chief Valentyn Nalivaychenko said.
In response to a question whether Ukraine would use air strikes against the convoy, Mr Nalivaychenko said: "Against them, no."
But Ukrainian authorities said the convoy would pass through an area where the rebels were firing and that therefore its security could not be guaranteed.
Luhansk has suffered some of the most severe fighting and has been cut off from water and power supplies for nearly three weeks.
Several of the nearly 300 vehicles had been cleared by both countries' customs authorities on Thursday and were waiting for the green light to enter Ukraine from the ICRC.
The ICRC said it would not launch the aid delivery mission until it receives firm security assurances from both Kiev and the insurgents that the convoy will not be attacked.
Ukraine is doing it's best to be as obstructive as possible, shows it's character.
Fascists in east

Sydney, Australia

#1135 Aug 23, 2014
After sacrificing 20 million to defeat fascism in ww2, Russia isn't going to balk at defeating the USA funded and installed fascist despot governments of Poland & Ukraine once again.

Ukraine first. Then Poland. It's coming.

There is no room for these fascists, be they Poles or Ukrainians.
These fascists are like a cancer in East Europe that needs to be guarded against & cleansed out.

Since: Apr 11

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#1136 Aug 23, 2014
Fascists in east wrote:
After sacrificing 20 million to defeat fascism in ww2, Russia isn't going to balk at defeating the USA funded and installed fascist despot governments of Poland & Ukraine once again.
Ukraine first. Then Poland. It's coming.
There is no room for these fascists, be they Poles or Ukrainians.
These fascists are like a cancer in East Europe that needs to be guarded against & cleansed out.
Excellent post indeed, very true too.
Marko

Brisbane, Australia

#1137 Aug 24, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
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Excellent post indeed, very true too.
Location hidden?
Foo

Brisbane, Australia

#1138 Aug 24, 2014
There is a reason why the USSR existed . All the countries in that region are the same people and are intertwined genetically and socially. It is a rich cultural region of the world and would have peace and properity , if not for external interferrance . Russia and surrounding countries are being externally interferred with by global energy companies ........ so is Australia , the Middle-east and most other places in the world. These global parasites are the true enemy. They are doing this .

Since: Apr 11

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#1139 Aug 24, 2014
Marko wrote:
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Location hidden?
Is that relevant??

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#1140 Aug 24, 2014
Dimitri100 wrote:
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Is that relevant??
Is your last name Suvorov ?

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