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Malaysian Airlines plane shot down over Ukraine; 295 feared dead

There are 1806 comments on the Northwest Florida Daily News story from Jul 17, 2014, titled Malaysian Airlines plane shot down over Ukraine; 295 feared dead. In it, Northwest Florida Daily News reports that:

A Ukrainian official said a passenger plane carrying 295 people was shot down Thursday over a town in the east of the country, and Malaysian Airlines tweeted that it lost contact with one of its flights over Ukrainian airspace.

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ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1140 Aug 20, 2014
UKRAINIAN NAZISM wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-LKFptM7oOkXX
NO ONE forget that every death means a family mourns.
these are not just statistics.
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1141 Aug 20, 2014
UKRAINIAN NAZISM wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-LKFptM7oOkXX
this is an awesome video.
it shows a people pulling together. no one is goose-stepping. no one is randomly beaten. they are all shouting "Ukraine". if you know the history, you know there is a diverse population there. this is them pulling it all together. those people are happy. they are not calling for death- really. it can be understood as a plea for all outside influences to get out and let them pull it all together.
this is in the language of the street. that's the music they listen to.
it's a party...
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1142 Aug 20, 2014
UKRAINIAN NAZISM wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-LKFptM7oOkXX
if you watch this video and do not have a smile on your face, you are not getting it. i've seen about half and it's hopeful.
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1143 Aug 20, 2014
it's filled with hope
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#1144 Aug 20, 2014
Too bad they're controlled by so many from the West filled with hate.

"Odessa will burn in the minds of those in the East for eternity."

My personal quote. You may record it for posterity.
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1145 Aug 20, 2014
UKRAINIAN NAZISM wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =-LKFptM7oOkXX
the translation at times is clearly not telling us what is really being said.
definitely got a slant going with the translation.
they should not have hurt anyone, though. can a person claim mob mentality in a situation like this?
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#1146 Aug 20, 2014
tm clms wrote:
<quoted text>
if you do...you'll be fired from your job as trainee ruskie toilet cleaning columnist for Putin Propaganda Journal.
Well, to be honest - I'd rather be cleaning Russian toilets than shilling for neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

Some Americans are funny like that, especially the ones who lost family blood in WWII.

Most Americans like me, don't like either communism or fascism much. Far as I can tell, the former is a has been but the latter manifesting itself in Ukraine has really got my stomach churning, especially when it's murdering civilians with impunity. That REALLY gets my dander up.

Thanks for asking.
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1147 Aug 20, 2014
Pro-Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>
I never say anything that isn't justified in some way.
More about my ex: he was a truck driver who drove trucks to Russia on a regular basis and quite often. He wasn't rich or 'important', hence his stories came as a big shock. About a luxurious restaurant in Leningrad that normal tourists didn't know about. How he got bored with sex when prostitutes gave blow-jobs when he was reading a comic book, how much power they had over girls in Leningrad etc. etc.
Last week there was discussion about Finnish trucks in the Soviet-era, how they were used for spying by Russians. Everything made sense, his position in Leningrad and the way he was 'taken care of' during his visits.
My guess is that many prostitutes were KGB-agents, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense. This ex fell in love with one of them and wanted to marry her. They got married and she moved to Finland but she was shocked to see how poor he was in reality. Their marriage lasted a few months and she went back to Leningrad.
Now I'm wondering if he knew his 'mission' in USSR or if they just used him? It's so ridiculous when thinking that a truck driver gets this much of special attention, so the cargo must have been 'valuable'.
He didn't see anything wrong with the society and how people were treated, which told volumes about himself...
While some get desperate when not knowing what they can do for the Russian people, some others again exploit the situation so that it serves their own needs - meaning non-Russians.
All my information comes from Leningrad only, I have no idea what it was like in other citys or in the countryside.
I was a teenager when visiting USSR and I still remember the despair and the feeling of not being able to do anything :(
One incident from the metro station still makes me cry. A poor Russian had taken a plastic bag from a tourist and the policemen went running after him. I prayed that he would get away, but they caught him.
Had I known Russian then I would had intervened and pleaded for the man. Nobody cared, they didn't even look when the poor man was taken away by the police.
After that I refused to take the subway to the hotel and I was deeply shocked and horrified for the man's destiny, sad that he didn't get away.
All and all I was happy to leave USSR and felt ashamed that I had freedom and could leave. After that it was pretty clear to me that fighting for human rights and freedom became more important than anything else.
Rio has admitted that he is a useful idiot. Just how many useful idiots are there who visited USSR on a regular basis but still refused to acknowledge the depression and fear?
Why didn't anyone ask or think why Russians didn't smile?
Ukraine's suffering is our suffering also, or at least it should be.
excellent post!

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#1148 Aug 21, 2014
ThatOneBand wrote:
<quoted text>
NO ONE forget that every death means a family mourns.
these are not just statistics.
+1000

Even if the war would be over today, the Ukrainians and Ukraine have a long mourning time ahead of them :(

For them the life of a human being is priceless and Russia can't replace them, not even if they are put in jail.

GLORY TO UKRAINE!

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#1149 Aug 21, 2014
Pro-Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>
I never say anything that isn't justified in some way.
More about my ex: he was a truck driver who drove trucks to Russia on a regular basis and quite often. He wasn't rich or 'important', hence his stories came as a big shock. About a luxurious restaurant in Leningrad that normal tourists didn't know about. How he got bored with sex when prostitutes gave blow-jobs when he was reading a comic book, how much power they had over girls in Leningrad etc. etc.
Last week there was discussion about Finnish trucks in the Soviet-era, how they were used for spying by Russians. Everything made sense, his position in Leningrad and the way he was 'taken care of' during his visits.
My guess is that many prostitutes were KGB-agents, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense. This ex fell in love with one of them and wanted to marry her. They got married and she moved to Finland but she was shocked to see how poor he was in reality. Their marriage lasted a few months and she went back to Leningrad.
Now I'm wondering if he knew his 'mission' in USSR or if they just used him? It's so ridiculous when thinking that a truck driver gets this much of special attention, so the cargo must have been 'valuable'.
He didn't see anything wrong with the society and how people were treated, which told volumes about himself...
While some get desperate when not knowing what they can do for the Russian people, some others again exploit the situation so that it serves their own needs - meaning non-Russians.
All my information comes from Leningrad only, I have no idea what it was like in other citys or in the countryside.
I was a teenager when visiting USSR and I still remember the despair and the feeling of not being able to do anything :(
One incident from the metro station still makes me cry. A poor Russian had taken a plastic bag from a tourist and the policemen went running after him. I prayed that he would get away, but they caught him.
Had I known Russian then I would had intervened and pleaded for the man. Nobody cared, they didn't even look when the poor man was taken away by the police.
After that I refused to take the subway to the hotel and I was deeply shocked and horrified for the man's destiny, sad that he didn't get away.
All and all I was happy to leave USSR and felt ashamed that I had freedom and could leave. After that it was pretty clear to me that fighting for human rights and freedom became more important than anything else.
Rio has admitted that he is a useful idiot. Just how many useful idiots are there who visited USSR on a regular basis but still refused to acknowledge the depression and fear?
Why didn't anyone ask or think why Russians didn't smile?
Ukraine's suffering is our suffering also, or at least it should be.
The same stories can be told about nearly any other country in the world.
What was your point? To say that prostitutes and poor people exist in Russia? Where they don`t?
Even USA has 6 mln. of homeless people.

Russians have a saying,- a pig will always find dirt.
You seem to be that pig which looks for dirt in Russia.
Try to visit Saint Petersburg and talk to Russian people if you care for the truth about Russia.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#1150 Aug 21, 2014
Alexey25 wrote:
<quoted text>
The same stories can be told about nearly any other country in the world.
What was your point? To say that prostitutes and poor people exist in Russia? Where they don`t?
Even USA has 6 mln. of homeless people.
Russians have a saying,- a pig will always find dirt.
You seem to be that pig which looks for dirt in Russia.
Try to visit Saint Petersburg and talk to Russian people if you care for the truth about Russia.
Six million homeless people in the USA, is an understatement by a long way.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#1151 Aug 21, 2014
Pro-Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>
+1000
Even if the war would be over today, the Ukrainians and Ukraine have a long mourning time ahead of them :(
For them the life of a human being is priceless and Russia can't replace them, not even if they are put in jail.
GLORY TO UKRAINE!
Even German nazis never bombed German cities.
Ukranian army bombs and shells Ukranian ones.
Such a coutry has no right to exist.
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#1152 Aug 21, 2014
Alexey25 wrote:
<quoted text>
Even German nazis never bombed German cities.
Ukranian army bombs and shells Ukranian ones.
Such a coutry has no right to exist.
Don't kid yourself Grozny is in the Russian Federation.

And you Ruskies killed hundreds of thousands of your own civilians.
Ethan Allen

Waterbury, VT

#1153 Aug 21, 2014
Avenger wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't kid yourself Grozny is in the Russian Federation.
And you Ruskies killed hundreds of thousands of your own civilians.
Well, you obviously have no problem with it then - when you see Poroshenko following in what you insist are Russia's footsteps.
PUTIN a NAZI PIG

Port Moody, Canada

#1154 Aug 21, 2014
Avenger wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't kid yourself Grozny is in the Russian Federation.
And you Ruskies killed hundreds of thousands of your own civilians.
Exactly. And following his logic, the Soviets systematically murdered MILLIONS of their own people and so "such a country has no right to exist".
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#1155 Aug 21, 2014
PUTIN a NAZI PIG wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. And following his logic, the Soviets systematically murdered MILLIONS of their own people and so "such a country has no right to exist".
I agree lets have a vote. Hehe

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#1156 Aug 21, 2014
Avenger wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't kid yourself Grozny is in the Russian Federation.
And you Ruskies killed hundreds of thousands of your own civilians.
Never mind him, Avenger. Maybe he was born after 1991 or then he has chosen to walk his life with closed eyes.

Soviet can be compared with North-Corea or China, but not with western countries.

You are right about Ruskies, on top of that they invented Fascism. Hitler learned from Soviet how things should be executed.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#1157 Aug 21, 2014
Ha ha, count me in too for the voting ;)
Alpha

Riga, Latvia

#1158 Aug 21, 2014
PUTIN a NAZI PIG wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. And following his logic, the Soviets systematically murdered MILLIONS of their own people and so "such a country has no right to exist".
1. How many millions did they kill? I don't remember Soviets shelling Riga, Vilnius, Tallin when they declared independence, not telling about some "anti-terroristic operations"
2. By the way, do you know that Mr. Butusov is worried about the level of your work under this and 16 other accounts? One of his recently leaked e-mails was specifically stating that you should change the locations to European ones, so there would be suggestion that all the Europe supports Ukraine.
Why don't you do it, PUTIN is a NAZI PIG?
PS: Five ukrainians are currently working under these (maybe more) aliases
Friend of freedom
TLC
PATHETIC LYING RUSSIA
Putin is a NAZI PIG
DISGUSTING FASCIST RUSSIA
Avenger
George
Funny Money
Hmm
Putin is like Hitler
Cujo
Purely Canadian
tm clms
Putin is a LIAR and THIEF
Another ruSSian lie
maz epa
tm cl
Speaking about IQ of ukrainian "journalists".
Pro Ukraine

London, UK

#1159 Aug 21, 2014
Ethan Allen wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, to be honest - I'd rather be cleaning Russian toilets than shilling for neo-Nazis in Ukraine.
Some Americans are funny like that, especially the ones who lost family blood in WWII.
Most Americans like me, don't like either communism or fascism much. Far as I can tell, the former is a has been but the latter manifesting itself in Ukraine has really got my stomach churning, especially when it's murdering civilians with impunity. That REALLY gets my dander up.
Thanks for asking.
Nobody's interested what a paid Putin propagandist like you thinks.

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