Ethnic Politics in the Heart of Trans...

Ethnic Politics in the Heart of Transylvania

There are 5735 comments on the Transitions Online story from May 23, 2007, titled Ethnic Politics in the Heart of Transylvania. In it, Transitions Online reports that:

“The Hungarian world is small and tightly interconnected.”

Rogers Brubaker and his co-authors have crafted an elegant and comprehensive study of nationalism in Cluj, the spiritual capital of that eternal borderland, Transylvania. via Transitions Online

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Srbija CCCC

Australia

#6653 Oct 27, 2009
pesky the real deal wrote:
what an excellent idea.
i bet, if you were to line up gypsies along magayrs you won´t tell them apart.
ti smrdis kao kaka

CCCC

Since: Nov 08

Wenatchee, WA

#6654 Nov 12, 2009
mare si frumos wrote:
We should kick out all Hungarians back to Hungary and have all the gypsies join them.
You are not serious! With no Gypsies, where would be RU(RO)Mania????? That all what you have there....

pesky the real deal

“Safe pair of hands”

Since: Nov 08

where the trouble is

#6655 Nov 13, 2009
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,952213,00.jp...

it looks like we had not done the job properly.
still we see magayr fascist around in buda.
valah

Elgin, IL

#6656 Nov 17, 2009
Oooooooooooh boy,and we were hoping you perished and went to goulash heaven!
How wrong were we!
Was'up Laszlo came out of coma?
Magyar wrote:
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You are not serious! With no Gypsies, where would be RU(RO)Mania????? That all what you have there....
HIS

Cluj-napoca, Romania

#6657 Nov 20, 2009
HIS (HUNGARIAN INTELLIGENCE SERVICE ) REPORT : HELLO!THE WORLD IS ALL HUNGARIAN!GOD IS HUNGARIAN!ALL EUROPE IS HUNGARIAN!ALL THE GOOD THINGS ON THIS WORLD ARE HUNGARIAN!WE ARE THE ''BELLY OF THE WORLD!IN FACT WE CONTROL U.S.A. THEIR ARMY IS OURS..AND WE FIGHT FOR OILFIELDS IN IRAK ...WE ARE THE SMARTEST IN THE WORLD!BTW...WE GOTTA CLAIM PAPUA NEW GUINEE BY THE TURN OF THE CENTURY BECAUSE THERE ARE HARD EVIDENCE THAT WE GOT THEIR FIRST AND THAT LAND WAS NOT INHABITED!SO...THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THAT ALL OUR NEIGHBOURS ARE IDIOTS...AND WE..A SINGLE FRUSTRATED NATION ...WE ARE RIGHT!SO DONT BELIEVE THE REST OF THE EUROPE...BELIEVE US!WE ARE RIGHT...ALL THE LANDS AROUND US ARE OURS ALTHOUGH WE CAME SOME 1K YEARS AGO IN EUROPE! AND THE BLACK IS RED,WHITE IS GREEN,THE WOLVES ARE IN FACT SHEEPS,THE COWS FLY...AND THE PIGS ...FLY EVEN FASTER THAN THE COWS!''
europeanman

UK

#6663 Jan 17, 2011
mare si frumos wrote:
We should kick out all Hungarians back to Hungary and have all the gypsies join them.
Following your argument, should all Romanians go back to Rome?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Tampere, Finland

#6664 Jan 17, 2011
europeanman wrote:
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Following your argument, should all Romanians go back to Rome?
Todays romanian latino gypsies have nothing to do with the ancient romans.
Mariusz

Bucharest, Romania

#6665 Jan 17, 2011
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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Todays romanian latino gypsies have nothing to do with the ancient romans.
How's your mamma,Luka?Still sucking d!cks,like her son?
valah

Elgin, IL

#6666 Jan 17, 2011
Became a historian between the reindeer milking sessions?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil wrote:
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Todays romanian latino gypsies have nothing to do with the ancient romans.
InterDH

Ireland

#6673 Jun 18, 2012
Vampire In Transylvania Today!!!
www.topix.com/forum/us/TMQPL189IEIVVQ4LN
InterDH

Ireland

#6674 Jun 18, 2012
ATTILA wrote:
ERDELY,FELVIDEK,DELVIDEK,KARPA TALJA, MURAVIDEK,FELSOORVIDEK IS ALL HUNGARIAN IT WAS AND WILL BE AGAIN !!!!! GIVE THE MAGYAR BACK ALL THESE LANDS NOW!!!!!!
FLORI NU VREI?
InterDH

Ireland

#6675 Jun 18, 2012
Multumim Ungurilor Care isi Spun Parerea Despre Romania, Doar Asa o sa ne dam Seama cat de Bogata si Sfanta E Tara Noastra! Va Dati Seama Cati Unguri Mor Anual De Inima Ca Transilvania Nu E A Lor?! O Tara Care Nu Are Valoare, Nu o Vrea Nimeni!
Deci Sa Punem Valoare Pe Tara Noastra!!!

http://www.noidacii.ro/Noi%20Dacii%20nr.03/Or...

Ungurii Cersesc Pamant de la Romani! Cersitori o sa ramaneti pe vecie!!!!!!!!!!

Cea mai nesuferita natie din Europa sunt Ungurii!
Magi-ar

Budapest, Hungary

#6676 Jun 19, 2012
why dont you shut up, noone understands this monkey language.
Cool Dude

Criseni, Romania

#6677 Feb 8, 2013
I'm waiting for Autostrada Transylvania to be built so we can effectively travel. After we've accomplished that we'll be welcoming investors and developers to Transylvania so we could catch up with the rest of the developed European countries. Can anyone tell me when this promised road will be finished or why wasn't it finished as of today?
Why our politicians wish to throw this project into the waste basket? Isn't this dialog more important than hate speeches and engaging in a pissing contest that nobody could win?
mayhem

Sibiu, Romania

#6678 Wednesday
Some Common Sense wrote:
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Lulu belle:

You no speakie bery well... Has all that corn and lard fried your brains?

You have been brainwashed very well during the commie period. Do you burn candles in front of your Ceausescu picture? Maybe offer a little corn?
Byzantine chronicles? Just goes to show your balkan and not roman origin.

Again, where are the records of you ilk, monkeys, baboons, dacians, romans, neanderthals or even the baboons like you from 275AD to 896AD? You don't think so or can't figure this out?

Here's a quote:
"According to Eutropius (book IX, 15), Aurelian abandoned Dacia Traiana and reorganised a new Dacia Aureliana inside former Moesia Superior in 270-275, settling it with Romans brought from the former Dacia Traiana. In order to increase taxation, Caracalla decreed in 212 that all freemen throughout the Roman Empire become Roman Citizens."

Now go look on a map and you will see that Moesia superior is about where Wallachia is located. This is where you come from, Wallachia. Dacia Traiana was located where Transylvania is presently located. Are you this big of an idiot you can't read and understand? Go read the above paragraph again and again until it sinks into your little corn filled, bird brain, cranium.

You are so confident that the Magyar looked east Asian in appearance. Why don't you make a trip to Budapest and visit Husok Ter. Look at the features of the statues. No east Asian look. Sorry, you have been eating too much corn. It's fried your brain and probably made you morbidly obese. What makes you think the Magyar were east Asian in appearance? Then again, the east Asians are significantly more intelligent that you. And what about you? Go look into a mirror and you see your brown tigany eyes. There's your history.

You can simply avoid what is going on and keep your head in the sand. Hungarians in Transylvania are supporting Kosova independence. You ilk is not. They have grievances and they will not be honored. So expect a vote for independence or autonomy.

So why don't you go and play with your corn kernels dingleberry? It seems to be about your level of intelligence. After you are done playing, go grind it up for a big blob of mush!
I think you have been brainwashed by Horthy and Kadar's propaganda. Byzantine Chronicles, such as the chronicles of Procopius of Caesarea or Priscus of Panium recorded as early as the 5th to 6th century vlachs living in Transylvania and Panonia.

If you bothered reading Jordanes's book, Gothica, he explicitly says that vlachs lived North of the Danube, on the former Roman Dacia, and that Aurelianus did not retreat the entire population, but only the army, the administrative officials and the urban population. Dacia's vast majority of the population lived in rural areas. According to demographers, the population of Roman Dacia in the 3rd century revolved around 500k souls. The Roman Empire simply did not have the logistics, manpower and time to relocate so many people. Furthermore, Roman documents claimed that Aurelianus saw in the abandonment of Dacia Felix a temporary one, not a permanent one. He simply needed the legions stationed there in Asia to fight against the Parthians. He planned to return, but he died before that could happen. So why do you retreat a population from an area in which you plan to come back? Nonsense.

Eutropius does not refer to the entire population of Dacia being relocated. Archaelogical discoveries infirm his statement since there was no increase in settlements south of the Danube at the end of the 3rd century and beginning of the 4th. Unless the retreated population vanished, the only logical conclusion is that this depopulation of Dacia is a myth.

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