Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#53 Feb 14, 2013
abc wrote:
<quoted text>You're right. Hitler didn't like Orthodox Slavs. He hated Russians and Serbs same way he hated Jews and Gypsies.
DNA evidence says otherwise.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc...

Western Europeans have much higher "Gedrosia" DNA than Eastern Europeans here.

Gedrosia DNA here peaks in "Dravidian" Low Caste Brahui of Southern Pakistan.

Also note Eastern Europeans are also more "Northern European" by DNA

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#54 Feb 14, 2013
Why would anyone want to be Aryan gypsy?
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#55 Feb 15, 2013
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
R1a haplogroup in Finno-Ugrics is probably from mixing with Cordedware Indo-European speakers out of Poland.
Nope.
R1a does not equate indo-european speakers.
And N1c does not equate finno-ugric speakers.
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
R1a haplogroup is highest in Finno-Ugrics who belonged to Cordedware culture.
Nope.
R1a is even higher to the east, among western Volga finns, who were not part of corded ware.
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact in Scandanavia highest R1a haplogroup is in Cordedware areas around Norway & Sweden & NOT FINLAND.
Coastal Pitted ware was uralic.
Swedes are 80% of stone age uralic + 20% of neolithic mediterranean.
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
The R1a haplogroup in Saami could be the result of mixture between Norwegians.
It seems that Saami have mixed some with Norwegians but also Swedes too since the Viking era.
Perhaps, but not the way you believe it happened.
There was very little mixing, but what mixed might have spread further among the saamis.

Saamis have always been relatively isolated, as testified by plague stats.
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
I know that "Older" pictures I have seen of Saami from the 19th century look more Mongoloid & less Caucasoid than newer pictures of Saami I have seen.
Why such?
You have a wrong impression.
You mistake strong cheek muscles and strong cheek bones for "mongoloid", while in fact it is just about diet and way of life.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#56 Feb 15, 2013
tarmo wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
R1a is even higher to the east, among western Volga finns, who were not part of corded ware.
<quoted text>
Not true... Volga Finns were in Cordedware.

Eastern part of Cordedware culture ended on a longitutde line North of Caspian sea.... With a latitude line in line with Sweden & Estonia.

Which = Volga Finns
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#57 Feb 15, 2013
tarmo wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a wrong impression.
You mistake strong cheek muscles and strong cheek bones for "mongoloid", while in fact it is just about diet and way of life.
What is a "Western European" definition of Mongoloid is obviously wrong since they often include Eastern Europeans as Semi Mongoloid.

Which Eastern Europeans are very European.

..... With Lithuanians being the most European by DNA as you state.

...
........Even compared to Lithuanians these Saami in this picture below are clearly a little Mongoloid.

http://www.facetofacemedia.ca/files/ARKTIKA_S...
Israel Mohel Vampire

Absecon, NJ

#58 Feb 15, 2013
Rubbish! LISTEN TO ME, damm it! I am smarter than all of you. Believe what I post. Or I will take all my 400 pounds and squash you.
I am a half-bred Polack and Irish mick. Somewhere in my DNA is a little Jewish and African blood. However, my finno-urgric ancestors, also included Slav and Magyar genes.
The RealMagyar

Absecon, NJ

#59 Feb 15, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Why would anyone want to be Aryan gypsy?
Even though I am slavic, I prefer to follow the more Magyar political doctrine of Fascist Nationalism. It is more superior in theory compared to National Socialism. Though both were not too sucessful. Mussulini was kinder than Stalin. If Mussulini were running Russia, instead of Putin, Russia would be in better shape than it is now.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#60 Feb 15, 2013
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
Rubbish! LISTEN TO ME, damm it! I am smarter than all of you. Believe what I post. Or I will take all my 400 pounds and squash you.
I am a half-bred Polack and Irish mick. Somewhere in my DNA is a little Jewish and African blood. However, my finno-urgric ancestors, also included Slav and Magyar genes.
The wild chimp Small Town the German / British American is still incapable of any kind of intelligent discussion.

You are a dumb, dirty, feral, wild tantrum filled disgusting filthy Western European pile of chimp trash!

You are a disgusting wild ravenous German ape!
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#61 Feb 15, 2013
The RealMagyar wrote:
<quoted text>
Even though I am slavic, I prefer to follow the more Magyar political doctrine of Fascist Nationalism. It is more superior in theory compared to National Socialism. Though both were not too sucessful. Mussulini was kinder than Stalin. If Mussulini were running Russia, instead of Putin, Russia would be in better shape than it is now.
You take a intelligent civil discussion here.

You trash the thread with your lowly, dumb, wild tantrum filled disgusitng German / British chimp fits.

Get your filthy dirty dumb vile animal garbage self the f*ck out of here.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#62 Feb 15, 2013
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
Rubbish! LISTEN TO ME, damm it! I am smarter than all of you. Believe what I post. Or I will take all my 400 pounds and squash you.
I am a half-bred Polack and Irish mick. Somewhere in my DNA is a little Jewish and African blood. However, my finno-urgric ancestors, also included Slav and Magyar genes.
I can see why you love Negroes so much.

You are just like a Negro a stupid primitive beast, only talk shit, cry about racism while being racist.

Only thing is Negroes typically don't have this feral OCD fussy fit thing you do.

You are like an Albino dumb shit talking Negro only with EXTREME OCD ISSUES.

That just makes you all the more repulsive& annoying.

You are a worthless, disgusting, vile animal who shouldn't be allowed to exist on this planet.
jkjkk

Russia

#63 Mar 12, 2013
Russians are stupid facks and subhumans, mongoloids, who don't even know their father, all russian women are whuaes
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#64 Mar 13, 2013
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true... Volga Finns were in Cordedware.
Eastern part of Cordedware culture ended on a longitutde line North of Caspian sea.... With a latitude line in line with Sweden & Estonia.
You say that corded ware reached north of Kirov? I don't think so.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#65 Mar 13, 2013
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
What is a "Western European" definition of Mongoloid is obviously wrong since they often include Eastern Europeans as Semi Mongoloid.
Eastern Europeans are not semi-mongoloid.
North-eastern europeans (european uralics) are archaic, thus predating both mongoloid and "contemporary europeans".
The share of archaic pre-mongoloid component and the mongoloid component among north-eastern europeans is yet to be discerned.
Israel Mohel Vampire wrote:
<quoted text>
Which Eastern Europeans are very European.
..... With Lithuanians being the most European by DNA as you state.
...
........Even compared to Lithuanians these Saami in this picture below are clearly a little Mongoloid.
http://www.facetofacemedia.ca/files/ARKTIKA_S...
Contemporary saami are mixed with samoyeds.
And the woman to the right has no mongoloid appearance.
White Man

Huntingdon, UK

#68 Mar 23, 2013
Russians are not white, nor are any Slavs. They are mixed with Mongolians and other Asians which is why everyone says 'even though they have white skn, they look different' haha
apm

Podolsk, Russia

#69 Mar 23, 2013
White Man wrote:
Russians are not white, nor are any Slavs. They are mixed with Mongolians and other Asians which is why everyone says 'even though they have white skn, they look different' haha
Is it a business of yours brown Paki? lol.
Jewish pride

Moscow, Russia

#71 Mar 25, 2013
Polish people are vastly semitic though.
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#72 Apr 6, 2013
Slavs are the most white people in Europe. In around 600 AD the Slavic tribe of Obotrites made alliance with Frankish king Charlmagne and mostly single handedly commited genocide against Germanic Saxons and Angles. After that Angles and Saxons escaped to Britain and founded England. Ever since then there existed anti-Slavic paranoia in Germanic and particularly the English speaking world. These purely Slavic people occupied a lot of indigenous Germanic land and later took control of the Baltic Sea, and later started pirate raids against the remaining Germanic peoples in the region - Danes, Swedes and Norwegians. The first vikings in the region were Slavs, only later Scandinavians started replicating Slavic behaviour and started conducting raids of their own against England, France and non-Slavic parts of Germany. There never was a single successful Scandinavian viking raid against Slavs because Slavs were the strongest Vikings in the region.
Later because of the pressure from Roman Empire and constant crusades, as Slavs were outnumbered almost 10 to 1, Obotrites sent some of their people and Princes via the Baltic sea to what is today Novgorod in Russia and founded Rus - i.e. the Russians. Rurik - the first Russian prince was of Slavic Obotrite origin, they united with East Slavs, and Slavs from Pomerania and created new People - Rus people, which today as always has been in virtual opposition to the West, just as the Obotrites were fighting it alone against the Scandinavians, Germans and the Rome.
The reason why Rus people accepted Eastern Orthodox Christianity was just another way of saying "F*ck you" to Rome :)
More on the topic Aryan people are of Slavic descent - look at this map of R1a haplogroup map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R1a1a_distr...
I don't know at what point Slavs decided to move south and colonize India, but the fact the center that they came from is in the center of Slavic civilization.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#73 Apr 6, 2013
Stalin Soviet StinkBag wrote:
<quoted text>
Lithuanians have come out the most European in multiple DNA studies.
That is only because they haven't made comparative studies of lithuanians together with latvians and estonians.

Genetic studies show that the Baltic region has had the least amount of genetic change in recent times (read: in metal ages).
And in stone age all the Baltics spoke baltic-finnic dialects. Even at the start of the iron age, the Baltics was linguistically 50:50 between baltic and baltic-finnic speakers.

So, lithuanians being "the most european" says very little about russians, actually.

What makes russians "european" is the stone age finno-ugric component, not any indo-european component.
Shem

Bangkok, Thailand

#74 Apr 6, 2013
How about we let the little Finno-Ugric Estonia speak for its finno-ugric self at the appropriate forum and let the Russians Slavs speak for themselves? Is that a deal Tarmo from Parmu?
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#75 Apr 6, 2013
Shem wrote:
These purely Slavic people occupied a lot of indigenous Germanic land and later took control of the Baltic Sea, and later started pirate raids against the remaining Germanic peoples in the region - Danes, Swedes and Norwegians.
"Purely slavic peoples" "dominating" the Baltic Sea? That has never happened.

Why do you think the earliest recorded name for the Vistula lagoon is Aistinmari / Estmere?
It is because in finnish "esten+mere" = "weir + sea".
Estonia = Eesti = Eestuva / eenduva / eelduva = in essence means the same as Jüt-land / Jyl-land.

Danish Jütland was one edge / weir of the forming Baltic Ice Lake some 14000 years ago.
Estland was the other edge / weir.

And the Baltic Sea hydronym has essentially the same meaning:
Baltic = Valg-= Flow
Baltic Sea = Flow Sea = dammed-sea filling in with meltwater
And the same meaning for the White Sea.

And the third old name for the Baltic Sea is Väinameri (Strait Sea). Nowadays it is only restricted to the straits between the Estonian mainland and its islands. 14 000 years back it was the straits that connected the forming Baltic Ice Lake with the forming White Sea.

Any tribes on the shores of the Baltic Sea have never been purely slavic. And the same goes for balts. And for swedes.
Shem wrote:
The first vikings in the region were Slavs
No, they weren't.
The baltic-finnic and sami stone age stone drawings show the ancestors of baltic-finns and samis as "the first vikings".
Shem wrote:
There never was a single successful Scandinavian viking raid against Slavs because Slavs were the strongest Vikings in the region.
Slavs were actually the weakest vikings in the region.
Shem wrote:
Later because of the pressure from Roman Empire and constant crusades, as Slavs were outnumbered almost 10 to 1, Obotrites sent some of their people and Princes via the Baltic sea to what is today Novgorod in Russia and founded Rus - i.e. the Russians. Rurik - the first Russian prince was of Slavic Obotrite origin,
Rus was genetically a finn. He had likely a coastal finnic background. Some of those coastal finns later on turned into fennoswedes in Finland. The ancestors of those coastal finns also had a considerable genetic input from estonians.

In Estonia we are used to call such people who neglect the language of their ancestors as kadaka (juniper)+ saksad (saxons / uppity).

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