Roots of Russian Violence and Terror

Roots of Russian Violence and Terror

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Crimean Tatar

Istanbul, Turkey

#1 Nov 19, 2007
"Another strategy of terror targeting civilian population was also initiated by the policies of imperial Russia. In addition to Yermolov's unsuccessful terror campaigns in the Caucasus, the Russian Empire launched a new strategy, which was to have long-lasting and tragic consequences for world history. It was the strategy of genocide, combined with mass deportation. The first victims were the Crimean Tatars, soon to be followed by Circassians, and finally Jews.

The first genocidal act took place within days of the declaration of Crimea's annexation by Tsarina Catherine II. At the end of April 1783, several thousand Crimean Tatar intellectuals, military officers and clergy were rounded up in Karasubazar and killed. The whole early 1800s marked a period of genocide and ethnic cleansing targeting the Crimean Tatars and aiming at wiping out their culture, intellectual heritage as well as physical presence from the Crimean Peninsula.[2] Following the Crimean War (1853-1856), by the summer of 1860, the flight of Tatars from the terror in Crimea had turned the once flourishing peninsula into a "torched earth" landscape.[3]

What happened first to the Crimean Tatars, stroke next the Circassians in the 1860s. An unprecedented genocide and wave of terror aimed at emptying the whole Caucasus from Circassians. Russia started a mass expulsion in Circassia in 1860, with catastrophic consequences. Unlike the Tatars, who chose the exile and fled from the dar al-harb, the Circassians put up armed resistance, fortified their capital, Sochi, and made appeals to Turkey and the West to gain recognition for independent Circassia. After having forcibly halted the exodus of Crimean Tatars, in 1862, Russia launched terror campaign, massacres and targeted famine against Circassians, and by May 1864, the Circassian resistance movement had been crushed. In 1865, Russia spread the terror campaign against Chechens. By the 1880s, more than three million Circassians (up to 90 % of the population) as well as hundreds of thousands of Chechens, Abkhazians, Georgian Muslims and other Caucasians had been forced to emigrate to Turkey in the proportionally most massive ethnic cleansing of the time. The number of those directly killed has not been properly investigated. Suddenly, as in the case of the Crimean Tatars, Russia stopped the persecution of the remaining populations, and crushed the voluntary emigration movements by deporting the organizers to Siberia. This coincided with the launch of yet another campaign -–the pogroms and expulsions of Jews."

http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~aphamala/pe/2004/terror...

Since: Aug 07

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#2 Nov 19, 2007
Tatars invaded Europe, killed and destroyed long time before Russia existed.
Where do we all go to claim compensations from the Tatars now?

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/russia/tatari...

The Tatar Invasion

A.) The Origin of the Tatars

The TATARS originate from the steppe region of Central Asia, where they were known as KIPCHAK TURKS. A nomadic people, expert horseriders on their short Mongolian ponies, they were able to shoot aimed arrows while riding. A constant cause of trouble to Genghis Khan, he is said to have ordered the Kipchak Turk men line up in front of waggons. Those who were taller than a waggon wheel had their heads chopped off; the youngsters were raised as loyal subjects to the nascent Mongolian Empire.
Still, the Mongolians did not trust the Kipchaks too much. In 1223 they sent them west, to explore the region, prepare a possible future conquest, but also to get rid of those potential troublemakers.

A.) The Invasions of 1223-1241

Russian chronicles report the first Tatar appearance for 1223, when the Tatar force was defeated in Cuman territory at the Kalka River. Another reconnaisance appeared in 1226. Then, in 1230, a Tatar expedition ravaged Volga Bulgaria and then turned against Moscow. Yet, these were all raiding parties, after the completion of which the Tatars withdrew to the steppe of Central Asia.
In 1236 they were back in full force, subduing the Khanate of the Volgar Bulgars (the region is now known as Tatarstan), then turning on the Russian principality of Ryazan. In 1238 an expedition ravaged eastern Russia. In December 1240 the Tatars suddenly appeared in front of Kiev, entered the city before the defenders even could close the gates. They continued westward, splitting their force into two, one taking the southern route into Hungary, the other the northern route into Poland. The Hungarian army was annihilated in the BATTLE OF THE SAJO RIVER (1241), the Polish capital of Cracow was sacked, a combined Polish-German force defeated in the BATTLE OF LEGNICA (1241). In a letter to the King of France, the Grand Master of the Teutonic Order wrote "nothing, Sire, stands between the invaders and the Kingdom of France". However, news of the Great Khan's death reached the Tatar troops. According to Mongolian law, BATU KHAN and his armies had to return to Central Asia to attend a KURALTAI. It was to save Europe.

C.) The Purpose of the Invasion

The raid into Poland was meant to distract the Poles, Germans and Bohemians to aid the Hungarians, for Hungary's ALFÖLD, perfect grazing ground, was the main object of the expedition. However, Tatars and Mongols rarely established their rule on their first raid. Instead, they ravaged, destroyed, defeated the enemy in order to prepare the conquest on a second raid. On such a second raid, many princes or cities would submit voluntarily, and those who did not were isolated and easy to defeat.
At the Kuraltai in 1242 it was decided that the Kipchaks (Tatars) move their herds into the steppe of Southern Russia, where they were to form the KHANATE OF THE GOLDEN HORDE, with it's capital at SARAI.
Volga Bolgar

Istanbul, Turkey

#3 Nov 20, 2007
Robespierre wrote:
Tatars invaded Europe, killed and destroyed long time before Russia existed. Where do we all go to claim compensations from the Tatars now?
Tatars?

There were no Tatars prior to 13th Century (it is a make-up name invented after the Turkish speaking tribes) as your resource also explains.

In fact, prior to the arrival of those so called "Tatars", there were Cumans, Volga Bolgars, Pechenegs, Khazars, Oghuz peoples around. So, which European countries you talk about?
Crimean Tatar

Istanbul, Turkey

#4 Nov 21, 2007
More on the Genocide applied on the Crimean Tatars:

http://monderusse.revues.org/docannexe1800.ht...
Volga Bolgar

Istanbul, Turkey

#5 Nov 22, 2007
Another good resource on the issue:

http://www.iccrimea.org/scholarly/jopohl.html

Since: Aug 07

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#6 Nov 22, 2007
Volga Bolgar wrote:
<quoted text>
. So, which European countries you talk about?
Google "Tatar invasions"

From the 13th century, Tatars have constantly invaded and pillaged Europe, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, etc...

Why can't these countries ask for compensations?
Volga Bolgar

Istanbul, Turkey

#7 Nov 22, 2007
Invasion?

You do not have to use word Tatar to get an idea about the Tatars. Just look at the map of Russia, it gives you an idea about the size of compensation that the Russians would face before the end of this century.
Volga Bolgar

Istanbul, Turkey

#8 Nov 22, 2007
Invasion?

You do not have to use word Tatar to get an idea about the concept of invasion.

Just look at the map of Russia, it gives you an idea about the size of compensation that the Russians would face before the end of this century.

Since: Aug 07

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#9 Nov 22, 2007
Volga Bolgar wrote:
Invasion?
You do not have to use word Tatar to get an idea about the concept of invasion.
Just look at the map of Russia, it gives you an idea about the size of compensation that the Russians would face before the end of this century.
Yes, maybe, but the Tatars from the East invaded Europe well before the Russians expanded in Siberia and the Far East. In other words, if you apply the logic of compensation for invasion (any invasion), the Tatars should answer the claims of several European countries they devastated too.

Are they ready for that? Hell no. But, thet think that time stood still and that they were unfairly deported from Crimea. Maybe, but that has to be weighted against their own actions in the past.

When you start digging in the past, you uncover plenty of stuff that are not always in your favour.

In the case of the Tatars, they were mostly unruly hords who lived of pillage, thef and massacre in Europe, before they were finally subjugated.
Crieman Tatars

Istanbul, Turkey

#10 Nov 23, 2007
Robespierre wrote:
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Yes, maybe, but the Tatars from the East invaded Europe well before the Russians expanded in Siberia and the Far East. In other words, if you apply the logic of compensation for invasion (any invasion), the Tatars should answer the claims of several European countries they devastated too.
Are they ready for that? Hell no. But, thet think that time stood still and that they were unfairly deported from Crimea. Maybe, but that has to be weighted against their own actions in the past.
When you start digging in the past, you uncover plenty of stuff that are not always in your favour.
In the case of the Tatars, they were mostly unruly hords who lived of pillage, thef and massacre in Europe, before they were finally subjugated.
The Turkish presence in East Europe dates back to Huns, then continues with the Gokturks, Khazars, Bolgars, Cumans, Pechenegs, Oghuz, Seljuks and the Ottomans.

There was no such thing like Tatar before the Mongol Invasion, and you can not blame the Crimean Tatars as if they were any different than the others during the Medieval or Modern Ages.

However, the Russian state policies developed in late 18th Century were quite different than all strategies in the past since such strategies were the institutionalized prototypes of modern crimes known as pogrom, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
USSR

Windsor, Canada

#11 Nov 25, 2007
The names behind the Bolshevik (Russian/Communist) revolution

The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik 'revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the Soviet government.(This does not appear in the later English translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

NAME NATIONALITY
Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Lourie (Larine) Jew
Ouritski Jew
Volodarski Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian

"The Council of the People's Commissars comprises the following:

MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY
President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
Food Schlichter Jew
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
State Control Lander Jew
State Lands Kauffman Jew
Works V. Schmidt Jew
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Religions Spitzberg Jew
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Hygiene Anvelt Jew
Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
Press Volodarski Jew
Elections Ouritski Jew
Justice I. Steinberg Jew
Refugees Fenigstein Jew
Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew

"The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee:

NAME NATIONALITY
Sverdlov (president) Jew
Avanessof (sec.) Armenian
Bruno Lett
Babtchinski Jew
Bukharin Russian
Weinberg Jew
Gailiss Jew
Ganzburg Jew
Danichevski Jew
Starck German
Sachs Jew
Scheinmann Jew
Erdling Jew
Landauer Jew
Linder Jew
Wolach Czech
Dimanstein Jew
Encukidze Georgian
Ermann Jew
Joffe Jew
Karkline Jew
Knigissen Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Krylenko Russian
KrassikofSachs Jew
Kaprik Jew
Kaoul Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) Russian
Latsis Jew
Lander Jew
Lounatcharski Russian
Peterson Lett
Peters Lett
Roudzoutas Jew
Rosine Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Stoutchka Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Sosnovski Jew
Skrytnik Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Teodorovitch Jew
Terian Armenian
Ouritski Jew
Telechkine Russian
Feldmann Jew
Froumkine Jew
Souriupa Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze Georgian
Scheikmann Jew
Rosental Jew
Achkinazi Imeretian
Karakhane Karaim (Jew)
Rose Jew
Sobelson (Radek) Jew
Sclichter Jew
Schikolini Jew
Chklianski Jew
Levine (Pravdine) Jew

"The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow:

NAME NATIONALITY
Dzerjinski (president) Pole
Peters (vice-president) Lett
Chklovski Jew
Kheifiss Jew
Zeistine Jew
Razmirovitch Jew
Kronberg Jew
Khaikina Jewess
Karlson Lett
Schaumann Jew
Leontovitch Jew
Jacob Goldine Jew
Glaperstein Jew
Kniggisen Jew
Latzis Lett
Schillenkuss Jew
Janson Lett
Rivkine Jew
Antonof Russian
Delafabre Jew
Tsitkine Jew
Roskirovitch Jew
G. Sverdlof Jew
Biesenski Jew
Blioumkine Jew
Alexandrevitch Russian
I. Model Jew
Routenberg Jew
Pines Jew
Sachs Jew
Daybol Lett
Saissoune Armenian
Deylkenen Lett
Liebert Jew
Vogel German
Zakiss Lett
USSR

Windsor, Canada

#12 Nov 25, 2007
MAIN ADMINISTRATION OF CAMPS AND SETTLINGS OF THE NKVD

Chief - Bermann Yakov Matveyevich. JEW

Deputy the chief for free- settler administration THE NKVD OF THE USSR - Firin Samuel Yakovlevich.JEW

Chief of camps and settlings in the territory of Karelian ASSR, simultaneously the chief of White Sea political camp - Kogan Samuel Leonidovich.JEW

Chief of camps and settlings of northern region - Finkel'shteyn.JEW

Chief of camps and settlings of Sverdlovsk region
Pogrebinskiy.JEW

Chief of camps and settlings of West Siberia - Sabo. JEW

Chief of camps and settlings of Kazakhstan - Volin. JEW

Chief is ELEPHANT (Solovetskogo camp of special

designation)- Serpukhov.JEW

Chief of the upper-Ural political insulator of

special designation - Mezner JEW

CHIEFS FOR ADMINISTRATION THE NKVD AT THE PLACES

Moscow region - Redens JEW

Leningrad region - Zakovskiy Western region - pulling strings Northern region - Ritkovskiy JEW

Azov- Black Sea edge - Friedberg JEW

Saratov edge - Pillyar Stalingrad edge - Rappoport JEW

Orenburg region - paradisiacal Gor'kiy edge - Abrampol'skiy JEW

North-Caucasian edge - Fayvilovich JEW

Sverdlovsk region - Shklyar BashkirJEW

ASSR - Zelikman JEW

West Siberia - GogolJEW

East Siberia - Trotsky JEW

The Far Eastern region - Deribas JEW

Central Asia - Krukovskiy JEW

Belorussia - Leplevskiy.JEW

http://www.respublika.ru/forums/archive/showI...
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#13 Dec 16, 2012
WOW WEE!!!!!!!

Here we have today's utherpendragon back in 2007 POSTING THE SAME ANTI-SEMITIC messages that Jew-Hater Halonen is Conan OBrien has been posting!!!!!!!!

So WHY DOES Utherpendragon HATE Halonen is Conan Obrien so much when uther POSTS the SAME messages about Jews that Hal posts??????????
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#14 Dec 16, 2012
USSR = today's utherpendragon
neutral observer

West Palm Beach, FL

#15 Dec 16, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
USSR = today's utherpendragon
?????

That was someone in Canada. Probably either Glenn Ivan or zoriana.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

Since: Oct 12

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#16 Dec 16, 2012
WOW WEE!!!!!!!

Here we have AbeUG posting over on the Israel forum just THIS FRIDAY

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/israel/TII3I...

David Cole who is an HONEST Jew, exposes the EXAGGERATION of the Holocaust which has been reported by the Jewish controlled American media in such a way to.... PROMPT non-Jews to feel sorry for Jews.
hmmm

United States

#17 Dec 16, 2012
Crimean Tatar wrote:
More on the Genocide applied on the Crimean Tatars:
http://monderusse.revues.org/docannexe1800.ht...
You live in Turkey, the genocide capital of Eurasia and bother yourself with Russia?

Allow me a sarcastic gfaw.

hmmm

United States

#18 Dec 16, 2012
-sunshine wrote:
WOW WEE!!!!!!!
Here we have AbeUG posting over on the Israel forum just THIS FRIDAY
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/israel/TII3I...
David Cole who is an HONEST Jew, exposes the EXAGGERATION of the Holocaust which has been reported by the Jewish controlled American media in such a way to.... PROMPT non-Jews to feel sorry for Jews.
Abe is quite disturbed, to put it politely. But that's been pretty obvious for a while now, hasn't it?
Russkie Retards

Bridgewater, NJ

#19 Dec 16, 2012
hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Abe is quite disturbed, to put it politely. But that's been pretty obvious for a while now, hasn't it?
But there is nothing disturbing about RuSSkie Retards/Russophile Retards always going to the Poland forum to bash Poles, eh?
Russkie Retards

Bridgewater, NJ

#20 Dec 16, 2012
and going to the Ukraine forum.

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