Are Russians white?

Created by Mer Vairenik on Jul 4, 2010

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Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#731 Feb 24, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
A diverse country like Russia, there is no point talking about "Russian genetics" as there is no point talking about "American" genetics.
better to break it down into regions, North Russia, Volga area, etc.
This DNA study would support RealMagyar on Hungarians being Turkic rather than Finno-Ugric

Since Hungarians here have more Turkic DNA than Poland (Red) DNA color code

While Hungarians here have less Finno-Ugric DNA than Poland in (Teal) or "Light blue" DNA color code

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9918/eeuk6...

Since: Nov 09

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#732 Feb 24, 2013
There`s nothing to be proud of. lol.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#733 Feb 24, 2013
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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Well... Here is the best DNA study on Eastern European genetics I have found.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9918/eeuk6...
You can zoom in here by clicking the magnifying glass.
Color code by DNA in the above DNA study.
Red = Siberian, Yellow = West Asian, Green = North European, Light Blue = Volga-Ural, Dark Blue = South Baltic, Pink = Mediterranean. See spreadsheet for details.
Original source below.
http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/09/structure-...
South-Baltic is closest to Volga-Ural, which is linked to North European. Volga-Ural is also linked to West Asian and Mediterranean. Siberian is also closest to Volga-Ural.

So the distance matrix suggests that Volga-Ural is the core region.

The outliers are: first Siberian, then Mediterranean, then West Asian, then North European.

The core is again Volga-Ural and South-Baltic.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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__________ So it seems Lithuanians & Finnish people here are quite different by DNA.
So?
Finns are not representative of baltic-finns.
The original centroid of baltic-finnic was among the southern baltic-finnic in the Baltics. The emphasis on Finland only developed during and after the Livonian War.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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It seems the Blue South Baltic DNA cluster here is Aryan & highest in Lithuanians followed by Polish & Belarussian.
South-baltic is baltic-finnic and swiderian. It is not aryan.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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While Lithuanians lack Light Blue Finno-Ugric here heavily.
Light blue is continental finno-ugric.
South-baltic is maritime finno-ugric (swiderian / Baltic Magdalenian / Ahrensburgian, etc.).
Mike Cooper

Valley Stream, NY

#734 Feb 24, 2013
White or not, as long as SLAVS help Iran, North Korea and Cuba, ARE STILL EVIL AS MUSLIM.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#735 Feb 24, 2013
Mike Cooper wrote:
White or not, as long as SLAVS help Iran, North Korea and Cuba, ARE STILL EVIL AS MUSLIM.
Out of Iran, North Korea and Cuba, only one of them is Muslim, you dumb American fck.
watrat

Pittsburgh, PA

#736 Feb 24, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ………
Russian is white Man Skin Color but They are Russia
Mike Cooper

Valley Stream, NY

#737 Feb 24, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Out of Iran, North Korea and Cuba, only one of them is Muslim, you dumb American fck.
So what, stupid Hungarian? NORTH KOREA AND CUBA ARE NOT WHITE. All of Russia's allies are pretty much a bunch of Asians and Muslim dictatorships.

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#738 Feb 24, 2013
Mike Cooper wrote:
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So what, stupid Hungarian? NORTH KOREA AND CUBA ARE NOT WHITE. All of Russia's allies are pretty much a bunch of Asians and Muslim dictatorships.
And? Who gives a fck?

Who are America's allies, Israel? lol

Since: Apr 11

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#739 Feb 24, 2013
Mike Cooper wrote:
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So what, stupid Hungarian? NORTH KOREA AND CUBA ARE NOT WHITE. All of Russia's allies are pretty much a bunch of Asians and Muslim dictatorships.
.

If you think USA is not a dictatorship,

you're a brainless dumbass.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#740 Feb 25, 2013
tarmo wrote:
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South-Baltic is closest to Volga-Ural, which is linked to North European. Volga-Ural is also linked to West Asian and Mediterranean. Siberian is also closest to Volga-Ural.
So the distance matrix suggests that Volga-Ural is the core region.
The outliers are: first Siberian, then Mediterranean, then West Asian, then North European.
The core is again Volga-Ural and South-Baltic.
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So?
Finns are not representative of baltic-finns.
The original centroid of baltic-finnic was among the southern baltic-finnic in the Baltics. The emphasis on Finland only developed during and after the Livonian War.
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South-baltic is baltic-finnic and swiderian. It is not aryan.
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Light blue is continental finno-ugric.
South-baltic is maritime finno-ugric (swiderian / Baltic Magdalenian / Ahrensburgian, etc.).
Lithuania isn't like Finland..... Lithuania has very low Light blue Finno-Ugric while Lithuania has very high Navy Blue South Baltic & Finland has very low Navy Blue South Baltic.

Lithuania here seems to be the least like Finno-Ugrics on this DNA map except for Sardinia.

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.... Lithuania has very, very low Light Blue & Red which both are elevated in Finno-Ugrics.

Finland, Moksha, Erzya & even Scandanavia all have much higher Light blue & Red than Lithuania.

Vologda Russia = More Finno-Ugric than "Russian"

Vologda Russian here have more Light blue & Red than Russia.

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....... Instead the high Navy Blue in Lithuania is more like Poland & Belarus & Ukraine.

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...... This seems to be a Indo-European DNA cluster & not a Finno-Ugric genetic cluster!
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#741 Feb 25, 2013
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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Lithuania isn't like Finland..... Lithuania has very low Light blue Finno-Ugric while Lithuania has very high Navy Blue South Baltic & Finland has very low Navy Blue South Baltic.
Lithuania here seems to be the least like Finno-Ugrics on this DNA map except for Sardinia.
Both light blue and navy blue are finno-ugric.
The distance matrix shows that south-baltic, Volga and north european components are practically the same. between these three, the largest difference is between South-Baltic and North European. The distance between Mediterranean and South-Baltic is 4 TIMES LARGER than the distance between South-Baltic and Volga-Ural.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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.... Lithuania has very, very low Light Blue & Red which both are elevated in Finno-Ugrics. Finland, Moksha, Erzya & even Scandanavia all have much higher Light blue & Red than Lithuania.
It is an illusion. Both light bue and navy blue are practically the same based on the distance matrix.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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...... This seems to be a Indo-European DNA cluster & not a Finno-Ugric genetic cluster!
Nope.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#742 Feb 25, 2013
tarmo wrote:
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Both light blue and navy blue are finno-ugric.
The distance matrix shows that south-baltic, Volga and north european components are practically the same. between these three, the largest difference is between South-Baltic and North European. The distance between Mediterranean and South-Baltic is 4 TIMES LARGER than the distance between South-Baltic and Volga-Ural.
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It is an illusion. Both light bue and navy blue are practically the same based on the distance matrix.
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Nope.
Light Blue & Dark Blue are practically the same!?

Dark Blue is highest in Lithuania & Light Blue is highest in Chuvash.

Are Lithuanians & Chuvash really practically the same!?
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#743 Feb 25, 2013
tarmo wrote:
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Both light blue and navy blue are finno-ugric.
The distance matrix shows that south-baltic, Volga and north european components are practically the same. between these three, the largest difference is between South-Baltic and North European. The distance between Mediterranean and South-Baltic is 4 TIMES LARGER than the distance between South-Baltic and Volga-Ural.
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It is an illusion. Both light bue and navy blue are practically the same based on the distance matrix.
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Nope.
I don't think so.... Dark Blue seems to be Indo-European .... Light Blue seems to be Finno-Ugric.

Green is a toss up... Could be Western Finno-Ugric or perhaps but very unlikely Western Indo-European or perhaps some extinct language.

Red is clearly Turkic - Mongol is elevated some in Finno-Ugrics too here.

Both Purple & Yellow in Europeans seems to be Neolithic farmer.

All around Lithuania lacks Light blue, Lacks Red, Lacks Yellow, Lacks purple ect.

Lithuania seems to be the most pure Indo-European Nation....

Lithuania speaks the most pure Indo-European language.

It fits!!!
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#744 Feb 25, 2013
Adn notice how Siberian component is at an equal disntance to everyone.

And how finno-ugric and baltic have less West Asian and more Siberian, while Danes and Polish have more West Asian and less Siberian. Those two components add up.

And how Mediterranean is at an equal distance to West Asian, North European, Volga-Ural and South-Baltic.

So, Siberian is not West-Asian (meaning not mongol).
And that is how danes or poles (or slavs in general), for example, can have more "mongol genes" when compared to baltic finns or balts.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#745 Feb 25, 2013
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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Light Blue & Dark Blue are practically the same!?
According to the distance matrix, yes.
And North European as well.
Those three form the core. And the common linguistic denominator for those three components is European uralic (ie. cro-magnon), ie. finno-ugric.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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Dark Blue is highest in Lithuania & Light Blue is highest in Chuvash.
Are Lithuanians & Chuvash really practically the same!?
Chuvash used to be finno-ugric.
I can only guess that the analysis method picks up the extremes of the finno-ugric continuum: Chuvash is the south-eastern corner, lithuania is close to the south-western corner, "north europe" is at the north-western corner.

You either have to disregard the whole study, or you have to accept that lithuanians and chuvash are likely more similar than lithuanians and mediterranians.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#746 Feb 25, 2013
tarmo wrote:
Adn notice how Siberian component is at an equal disntance to everyone.
And how finno-ugric and baltic have less West Asian and more Siberian, while Danes and Polish have more West Asian and less Siberian. Those two components add up.
And how Mediterranean is at an equal distance to West Asian, North European, Volga-Ural and South-Baltic.
So, Siberian is not West-Asian (meaning not mongol).
And that is how danes or poles (or slavs in general), for example, can have more "mongol genes" when compared to baltic finns or balts.
Wait... What!?

According to this Poland has low Red Turkic Mongol component.

Poland here has the lowest Turkic Mongol DNA after Lithuania & Sardinians.

Scandanavia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus,Russisa, Caucasus ect all have more Turkic Mongol DNA here than Poland does.

...
.... West Asian is like Caucasus, Anatolia, Near Eastern region generally.
tarmo

Tallinn, Estonia

#747 Feb 25, 2013
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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I don't think so.... Dark Blue seems to be Indo-European .... Light Blue seems to be Finno-Ugric.
You either have to disregard this whole study, or you have accept that Volga-Ural + South-Baltic + North European form one cluster.
And that Volga-Ural is the central of the three.

And that the common denominator for these three components is european uralic ie. finno-ugric.
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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Lithuania seems to be the most pure Indo-European Nation....
Lithuania speaks the most pure Indo-European language.
Wishful thinking on your part.
We have been through this before.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#748 Feb 25, 2013
tarmo wrote:
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You either have to disregard this whole study, or you have accept that Volga-Ural + South-Baltic + North European form one cluster.
And that Volga-Ural is the central of the three.
And that the common denominator for these three components is european uralic ie. finno-ugric.
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Wishful thinking on your part.
We have been through this before.
Yes... Lithuanians do seem to be closer to Chuvash by DNA than to Sardinians with Med DNA.

See below.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n73...

Yes.... We see in many DNA studies that Sardinians come out the most Med by DNA with Basque 2nd most Med by DNA.

We see this in this DNA study above.

That Med DNA is towards the Left with Sardinians & Basques.
Tex Rogers

Calgary, Canada

#749 Feb 25, 2013
The Lancet Journal of Medicine reports:*Scientists claim that almost half of the Slavic populations in the CIS and Poland inherited Mongol genes*
...stated Dr.Vladimir Nuzhnenko from the National Research Center of the Russian Ministry of Health.“On average, 50% of Slavic peoples, including Russians and Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles possess such Mongol genes..." It has made us stronger and smarter said the good Doctor....report Bartholomew Foster of London Times June, 2012.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#750 Feb 25, 2013
Tex Rogers wrote:
The Lancet Journal of Medicine reports:*Scientists claim that almost half of the Slavic populations in the CIS and Poland inherited Mongol genes*
...stated Dr.Vladimir Nuzhnenko from the National Research Center of the Russian Ministry of Health.“On average, 50% of Slavic peoples, including Russians and Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles possess such Mongol genes..." It has made us stronger and smarter said the good Doctor....report Bartholomew Foster of London Times June, 2012.
Ridiculous crap.

Slavic people have no Mongol C haplogroup.

Certainly not Poland.

I mean Russia is heavily Finno-Ugric by DNA as well as likely Scythian too... But not authentic Mongol no.... At least not Ethnic Russian that is.

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