Pierluisi pledges statehood bill in early 2013

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Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#1 Dec 20, 2012
www.caribbeanbusinesspr.com/prnt_ed/pierluisi...
Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi said he was pushing for Puerto Rico status legislation to be introduced in the U.S. Congress during the session beginning in January, which could put forth a "yes" versus "no" vote on statehood.

An offer of statehood was one of the "legitimate" responses the U.S. Congress could make in response to the November plebiscite, the resident commissioner said, and that would include as a condition a "yes" or "no" statehood referendum. He also said the U.S. Congress could offer a vote between the nonterritorial alternatives of statehood, free association and independence.
Not sure how Pierluisi thinks that will pass an island referendum. The status quo supporters and independence supporters combined outnumber the statehooders. Does he know something that we don't?

I think a Federally sanctioned referendum with the 3 non-colonial options has the best chance at a statehood victory - the PPD would likely boycott it entirely. Pierluisi also mentioned this as a possibility.
Kevin

Mayaguez, Puerto Rico

#3 Jan 4, 2013
The PPD is fractured in three, those who wants the staus quo, those who want enhanced commonwealth, and those who want sovereign commonwealth. But the statehood vote and the PNP is one. The problem is that people is counting all together, even if you add those blank votes, statehood wins by 400,000.
Rebecca

Fayetteville, AR

#4 Apr 20, 2013
The real problem is that enhanced commonwealth isn't compatible with the US constituion, so Congress won't allow it. Statehood, independence, and continuing as a territory are really the only possibilities. With 54% of the people already voting against the status quo in November, statehood is probably the winner.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#5 Apr 20, 2013
Rebecca wrote:
The real problem is that enhanced commonwealth isn't compatible with the US constituion, so Congress won't allow it. Statehood, independence, and continuing as a territory are really the only possibilities. With 54% of the people already voting against the status quo in November, statehood is probably the winner.
Exactly but the PDP live in a fantasy world! The colony was rejected which leaves us with only 2 choices: statehood or independence. Free Association cannot be included either as it is not a permanent solution.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#6 Apr 20, 2013
Obama just announced, yesterday, that the ELA (as it is) has to be one of the proposals.

If you ask me, he was paying (as a return favor) some lip service to the populetes.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#7 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Not sure how Pierluisi thinks that will pass an island referendum. The status quo supporters and independence supporters combined outnumber the statehooders. Does he know something that we don't?
I think a Federally sanctioned referendum with the 3 non-colonial options has the best chance at a statehood victory - the PPD would likely boycott it entirely. Pierluisi also mentioned this as a possibility.
Regardless, Pierluisi represents the statehood option and he was obliged.

If he knows the chances of passing Congressional filter or not...that remains to be seen; but he had to forward the petition.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#8 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly but the PDP live in a fantasy world! The colony was rejected which leaves us with only 2 choices: statehood or independence. Free Association cannot be included either as it is not a permanent solution.
I thought "free association" was a viable option, recognized by the international community (as well as by the US).

Since: Oct 12

Ashburn, VA

#9 Apr 20, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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I thought "free association" was a viable option, recognized by the international community (as well as by the US).
Free Association is intended to be a temporary solution and furthermore either partner can end the Compact unilaterally. The Pacific islands we have compacts with all have very, very small populations so it is nowhere near as costly for us as it would be with Puerto Rico.

Since: Oct 12

Ashburn, VA

#10 Apr 20, 2013
Jorge wrote:
Obama just announced, yesterday, that the ELA (as it is) has to be one of the proposals.
If you ask me, he was paying (as a return favor) some lip service to the populetes.
We have known from the day it was announced that the status quo would have to be included - however as we know both the PDP and the FedGov each have their own definition of "commonwealth" that the other rejects which is what will doom this referendum if they include the current status
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#11 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
<quoted text>We have known from the day it was announced that the status quo would have to be included - however as we know both the PDP and the FedGov each have their own definition of "commonwealth" that the other rejects which is what will doom this referendum if they include the current status
Obama didn't mention "commonwealth", he did mention "the territory, as is".
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#12 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
<quoted text>Free Association is intended to be a temporary solution and furthermore either partner can end the Compact unilaterally. The Pacific islands we have compacts with all have very, very small populations so it is nowhere near as costly for us as it would be with Puerto Rico.
Apparently it is a viable solution (regardless).

In my opinion, if Congress gets to finally approve Obama's "plebiscite project" and Free Assoc. is included (it will be intentional, in order to "divide and conquer")....

Free Assoc. will serve no other purpose for it doesn't please anyone, except colonialists from both sides of the Atlantic.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#13 Apr 20, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Apparently it is a viable solution (regardless).
In my opinion, if Congress gets to finally approve Obama's "plebiscite project" and Free Assoc. is included (it will be intentional, in order to "divide and conquer")....
Free Assoc. will serve no other purpose for it doesn't please anyone, except colonialists from both sides of the Atlantic.
Good observation, this has the added benefit of the free association option taking support away from the territory/commonwealth option.

Of course it also means no option will win:

Statehood: 45-50%
Territory/Commonwealth: 25-30%
Free Association: 15-20%
Independence: 0-5%

I still believe that the only options should be statehood or full independence.
TPMP

United States

#14 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Good observation, this has the added benefit of the free association option taking support away from the territory/commonwealth option.
Of course it also means no option will win:
Statehood: 45-50%
Territory/Commonwealth: 25-30%
Free Association: 15-20%
Independence: 0-5%
I still believe that the only options should be statehood or full independence.
Statehood is the only viable option. But, we will be at this for another generation or more.

Nothing will change. Unless, an act of congress does it.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#15 Apr 20, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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I still believe that the only options should be statehood or full independence.
And I still believe (like Carlos Romero) that it should be "Statehood-yes or no".
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#16 Apr 20, 2013
TPMP wrote:
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Nothing will change. Unless, an act of congress does it.
God, how come nobody, but nobody has thought of this before?

It's worth repeating-"nothing will change, unless an act of congress does it..."

Its brilliant, simply brilliant.

Did you come to this conclusion all by yourself or was it after much investigation?

Allow me to repeat it, yet again:

"...nothing will change, unless an act of congress does it...."

Simply awesome!

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