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PuertoRicans Uncreative
New York, NY
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The 3 most popular music genres in Puerto Rico; Salsa, Reggaeton and Merengue are ALL foreign music. Why hasn't Puerto Rico made a music genre that can be called authentically Puerto Rican? First; Puerto Ricans took Cuban Son and afro-cuban beats and rythims and called it "Salsa". Now people associate CUBAN beats and rythims with Puerto Rico. THIS is not Puerto Rican music and is not "Salsa", this is Cuban music played by Puerto Ricans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Yet people still call it "Puerto Rican Salsa". Then Came Panama; Puerto Ricans, as uncreative as they are, went to Panama, took the local Reggaeton music and made it into their own now NOONE associates Reggaeton with PAnama (although that's actually a good thing) and now they associate it with that's right! Puerto Rico. Now more recently is Dominican Merengue (lucky for the domincians, puerto ricans have no interest in Perico Ripiao); the uncreative puerto ricans are now trying to exploit Dominican music and call it theirs. It's already happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Good thing Puerto Ricans will never try to take away the most authentic of the DR's music, Perico Ripiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch... But they're still taking away Merengue, which was meant for Dominicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... As a Cuban, I refuse to support Puerto Rican salsa music and choose to listen to Cuban "Salsa" or Son. I think Cubans, Dominicans, Venezuelans and Panamanians should work together and riot Puerto Rico. In my opinion; Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama are the low-key brothers who work hard while Puerto Rico is the dead-beat, cocaine-addict brother who hasn't worked a day in his life and just mooches off of the government and takes the credit for what his more prosperous brothers have done. You Puerto Ricans are evil, you have a fast yet monotone accent when you speak spanish and have a lust for stealing music. That is all.
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Bear, DE
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PuertoRicans Uncreative wrote: The 3 most popular music genres in Puerto Rico; Salsa, Reggaeton and Merengue are ALL foreign music. Why hasn't Puerto Rico made a music genre that can be called authentically Puerto Rican? First; Puerto Ricans took Cuban Son and afro-cuban beats and rythims and called it "Salsa". Now people associate CUBAN beats and rythims with Puerto Rico. THIS is not Puerto Rican music and is not "Salsa", this is Cuban music played by Puerto Ricans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Yet people still call it "Puerto Rican Salsa". Then Came Panama; Puerto Ricans, as uncreative as they are, went to Panama, took the local Reggaeton music and made it into their own now NOONE associates Reggaeton with PAnama (although that's actually a good thing) and now they associate it with that's right! Puerto Rico. Now more recently is Dominican Merengue (lucky for the domincians, puerto ricans have no interest in Perico Ripiao); the uncreative puerto ricans are now trying to exploit Dominican music and call it theirs. It's already happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Good thing Puerto Ricans will never try to take away the most authentic of the DR's music, Perico Ripiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch... But they're still taking away Merengue, which was meant for Dominicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... As a Cuban, I refuse to support Puerto Rican salsa music and choose to listen to Cuban "Salsa" or Son. I think Cubans, Dominicans, Venezuelans and Panamanians should work together and riot Puerto Rico. In my opinion; Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama are the low-key brothers who work hard while Puerto Rico is the dead-beat, cocaine-addict brother who hasn't worked a day in his life and just mooches off of the government and takes the credit for what his more prosperous brothers have done. You Puerto Ricans are evil, you have a fast yet monotone accent when you speak spanish and have a lust for stealing music. That is all. You are very opinionated and some of your conclustions are wrong. Puerto Rico is the birthplace of Plena and Bomba. Music genres you know nothing about. The rhythms of this music is very hypnotic and sensual and there are dances associated with it. Puerto Ricans have always recognized that Merengue music originated in the Dominican Republic. It is a well known fact in Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans love the music of their "brothers" in the DR. They also love Bachata music which they also recognize is from the DR.
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Bear, DE
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Salsa has a very long history and MANY contributors during its evolution to its present form. Cuba is given the credit for being the initiator of the seeds of Salsa. "It is here where Contra-Danze (Country Dance) of England/France, later called Danzón, which was brought by the French who fled from Haiti, begins to mix itself with Rhumbas of African origin (Guaguanco, Colombia, Yambú). Add Són of the Cuban people, which was a mixture of the Spanish troubadour (sonero) and the African drumbeats and flavors and a partner dance flowered to the beat of the clave. This syncretism also occurred in smaller degrees and with variations in other countries like the Dominican Republic, Colombia, Puerto Rico, among others. Bands of these countries took their music to Mexico City in the era of the famous films of that country (Perez Prado, most famous ...). Shortly after, a similar movement to New York occurred. In these two cities, more promotion and syncretism occurred and more commercial music was generated because there was more investment. New York created the term "Salsa", but it did not create the dance. The term became popular as nickname to refer to a variety of different music, from several countries of Hispanic influence: Rhumba, Són Montuno, Guaracha, Mambo, Cha cha cha, Danzón, Són, Guguanco, Cubop, Guajira, Charanga, Cumbia, Plena, Bomba, Festejo, Merengue, among others. Many of these have maintained their individuality and many were mixed creating "Salsa". If you are listening to today's Salsa, you are going to find the base of són, and you are going to hear Cumbia, and you are going to hear Guaracha. You will also hear some old Merengue, built-in the rhythm of different songs. You will hear many of the old styles somewhere within the modern beats. Salsa varies from site to site. In New York, for example, new instrumentalization and extra percussion were added to some Colombian songs so that New Yorkers - that dance mambo "on the two" - can feel comfortable dancing to the rhythm and beat of the song, because the original arrangement is not one they easily recognize. This is called "finishing", to enter the local market. This "finish" does not occur because the Colombian does not play Salsa, but it does not play to the rhythm of the Puerto Rican/Post-Cuban Salsa. I say Post-Cuban, because the music of Cuba has evolved towards another new and equally flavorful sound. Then, as a tree, Salsa has many roots and many branches, but one trunk that unites us all. The important thing is that Salsa is played throughout the Hispanic world and has received influences of many places within it. It is of all of us and it is a sample of our flexibility and evolution. If you think that a single place can take the credit for the existence of Salsa, you are wrong. And if you think that one style of dance is better, imagine that the best dancer of a style, without his partner, goes to dance with whomever he can find, in a club where a different style predominates. He wouldn't look as good as the locals. Each dancer is accustomed to dance his/her own style. None is better, only different."
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Bear, DE
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You are a very divisive person. If you are from the Caribbean, you should be ashamed of your hateful stereotypical rhetoric.
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PuertoRicans Uncreative
Elmhurst, NY
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Prexplorer wrote: You are a very divisive person. If you are from the Caribbean, you should be ashamed of your hateful stereotypical rhetoric. "Hola nene, soy puelto liqueno y me guta el mofongo y el alo con flijole!"
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PuertoRicans Uncreative
Elmhurst, NY
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Prexplorer wrote: <quoted text>
You are very opinionated and some of your conclustions are wrong. Puerto Rico is the birthplace of Plena and Bomba. Music genres you know nothing about. The rhythms of this music is very hypnotic and sensual and there are dances associated with it. Yeah but Puerto Rico isn't known for those genres and Puerto Ricans on a daily basis hardly play that music. All of their most popular genres and all of the genres "Puerto Rico" is associated with are foreign. Prexplorer wrote: <quoted text>
Puerto Ricans have always recognized that Merengue music originated in the Dominican Republic. It is a well known fact in Puerto Rico. Puerto Ricans love the music of their "brothers" in the DR. They also love Bachata music which they also recognize is from the DR. You guys have no respect for them, which is why you harass LEGAL Dominicans just for going on a visit to your country. My black dominican friend went to puerto rico once and gave him disapproving stares.
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PuertoRicans Uncreative
Elmhurst, NY
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Prexplorer wrote: You are a very divisive person. If you are from the Caribbean, you should be ashamed of your hateful stereotypical rhetoric. LOL, Puerto Ricans in the US are always having stupid "beef" with nearly every hispanic nationality out there LMFAO. Whether it is Mexicans, Cubans or Dominicans; they always have beef with other countries.
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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PuertoRicans Uncreative wrote: The 3 most popular music genres in Puerto Rico; Salsa, Reggaeton and Merengue are ALL foreign music. Why hasn't Puerto Rico made a music genre that can be called authentically Puerto Rican? First; Puerto Ricans took Cuban Son and afro-cuban beats and rythims and called it "Salsa". Now people associate CUBAN beats and rythims with Puerto Rico. THIS is not Puerto Rican music and is not "Salsa", this is Cuban music played by Puerto Ricans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Yet people still call it "Puerto Rican Salsa". Then Came Panama; Puerto Ricans, as uncreative as they are, went to Panama, took the local Reggaeton music and made it into their own now NOONE associates Reggaeton with PAnama (although that's actually a good thing) and now they associate it with that's right! Puerto Rico. Now more recently is Dominican Merengue (lucky for the domincians, puerto ricans have no interest in Perico Ripiao); the uncreative puerto ricans are now trying to exploit Dominican music and call it theirs. It's already happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Good thing Puerto Ricans will never try to take away the most authentic of the DR's music, Perico Ripiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch... But they're still taking away Merengue, which was meant for Dominicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... As a Cuban, I refuse to support Puerto Rican salsa music and choose to listen to Cuban "Salsa" or Son. I think Cubans, Dominicans, Venezuelans and Panamanians should work together and riot Puerto Rico. In my opinion; Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama are the low-key brothers who work hard while Puerto Rico is the dead-beat, cocaine-addict brother who hasn't worked a day in his life and just mooches off of the government and takes the credit for what his more prosperous brothers have done. You Puerto Ricans are evil, you have a fast yet monotone accent when you speak spanish and have a lust for stealing music. That is all. All I can say to you, Jealous envious one, that means Puerto Ricans are geniuses, they've taken the best from the nations of the world and make millions on it all, while you do nothing to reach the heights they have reached worldwide, cry babies are now musically dirt poor....Puerto Ricans have real creative talents and have big balls. So what else is new??? Salsa is made up of many sounds and rthyms, not just son y guaganco alone. So therefore SalsaMusic is not just Cuban music alone. It is no longer up to date Cuban sounds alone, but it mostly lots of new sounds created by the majority. American New York Puerto Ricans, and also Island Puerto Ricans too. They have taken it to the height and fame that Cuba never did take it too, and beaver will. With all due respects to my Cuban brothers, if you are truly honest at heart, unlike this make believe Cuban dude above, you must also admit to to the facts, that is the real truth and the facts of life speak for themselves and do prove it to be so.
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Prexplorer wrote: You are a very divisive person. If you are from the Caribbean, you should be ashamed of your hateful stereotypical rhetoric. This here is an either envious Dominican. Mexican, Colombian who's girl was taken by a handsome music talented Puerto Rican good dancer and Salsero. Thats it...Case closed...You cannot pay atenttion to a jealous enraged unforgiving individual who could not make his own girl happy, but a musically talented Hadsome well biilt PR did. His manhood now cannot deal with it...
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
ISP:
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Origins of Salsa the Puerto Rican Influence by Paul F. Clifford Salsa has origins in Cuban music but credit for it's worldwide popularity belongs to the Puerto Ricans of New York! The popularity of Salsa throughout the world, is indirectly a consequence of American economic and social imperialism (MacDonalds, Coca Cola, TV, movies, music etc) but in this case, it is probably a good thing! Musically, Salsa has its roots firmly based in the Afro-Spanish musical traditions of Cuba but its worldwide popularity should be attributed to the Puerto Ricans of New York. For Non-Latinos, our knowledge of Latin Culture and Music comes from American movies and in most cases that means Puerto Rican experience as depicted in them. Often, the first time we heard the music, it was in the backing track of a movie. It was probably even a movie that motivated us to go to a Latin nightclub for the first time! Between 1915 and 1930 around 50,000 Puerto Ricans migrated to the USA. However, between 1940 and 1969 an additional 800,000 Puerto Ricans also migrated to the USA (especially to New York City). It can't be a coincidence that this is the same period that interest in Latino musical styles increased throughout the world. This is the period when Mambo, Cha Cha, Rock'n'Roll, Bomba, Boogaloo and other dances dominated the dance floor! The dominance of Puerto Ricans over New York (North American) Latin culture can be attributed to the fact that Puerto Rico is a US protectorate. The Jones Act (1917) made Puerto Ricans citizens of the USA. Thus Puerto Ricans being able to move freely between the mainland and their island, have also been able to more freely introduce Latin culture into America while maintaining and staying in touch with their own identity and heritage. I would even suggest that America's attempt to Americanise Puerto Rico has just made the Puerto Ricans even more determined to cling to their identity and that for them, Salsa has become the unifying force that binds their homeland and its annex in New York. It is said that there are more Puerto Rican Salsa clubs in New York than there are in Puerto Rico.
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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When the Puerto Ricans migrated to New York, they often encountered a struggle for life in the ghettos. The only escape from the frustrations of their daily lives was through the traditional music of their homeland - the "Bomba y Plena". Plena is a uniquely Puerto Rican style that deals with contemporary events, it is often referred to as "el periodico cantado" (the sung newspaper). This Puerto Rican musical form, might account for the popularity, throughout the 1960s, of a style of salsa called "musica caliente". Popular artists used lyrics that told a story about the struggles experienced by an average Puerto Rican in New York. Other artists expressed more emotional feelings about their aspirations for the future, the patriotism towards their country, and romance. Many artists, who came from El Barrio (east Harlem and parts of the Bronx), used another uniquely Puerto Rican genre - "Bomba". Through this aggressive Afro-Caribbean beat they expressed their frustration with the conditions they were living in. These musical forms began the modernisation of the 1950s Mambo, which has led to the creation of the Salsa. By the late 1970's, popular demand for Salsa Caliente dropped significantly. A new generation of listeners and artists started to emerge and salsa abandoned its portrayals of barrio reality in favor of sentimental love lyrics. This new sub-genre of salsa is known as "Salsa Romantica". Salseros such as Eddie Santiago, Luis Enrique, and Lalo Rodriguez were amoung the first artists to begin this transition from musica caliente to musica romantica. Today, Salsa Romantica maintains its popularity with its new wave of stars such as Marc Anthony, La India, Jerry Rivera, and Victor Manuelle attracting old as well as young salsa fans around the world. Jazz styles occurred. Big band leaders, such as Puerto Rico's Tito Puente and Tito Rodriguez and Cuba's Machito, expanded the mambo section of the son, creating a new style of music and they can be credited with forming the musical foundation for the creation of Salsa. Until the US severed diplomatic relations with Cuba in 1962, the New York and Cuban musicians continually interacted, forming parallel Latin music styles. After 1962, New York based music began incorporating the inspiration of the world around them, forming a distinctively New York Latin style that is dominated by influences from Puerto Rico. From 1962, Puerto Rico became the only place in the world that (had access to and) was recognised by the American music market as having a connection with the music. Since the 1970s Puerto Rico has claimed the music as its own and dominates the Latin music market. The term salsa, much like the term jazz, is simply a word used to describe a fusion of different rhythms. It was invented at the end of the 1960s to market Latino music and thanks to the New York Puerto Ricans has gained a following throughout the Latino and Non-Latino world. Cuba might own the musical heritage but the credit of taking it to the world should be given to the people of Puerto Rico who now preserve it and promote it as a globally popular tradition. This is not a definitive essay but is a collage of impressions I have obtained from consulting over a hundred web sites on Music history, Cuban history and Peurto Rican history.
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“LET GO AND LET GOD”
Since: May 07
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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PuertoRicans Uncreative wrote: <quoted text>
"Hola nene, soy puelto liqueno y me guta el mofongo y el alo con flijole!" Shame on you for the way you are expressing yourself, you give Cubans a bad name. "ASERE CONSOLTE ESTOY BIEN ARRANCAO; NO TENGO NI UN QUILO PRIETO PICAO POR LA MITAD" En Cuba yo tenia y tenia y tenia y tenia y tenia y tenia tanto que yo vengo del segundo piso de Cuba.
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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In all truth, here are the main originators of Salsa music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cubans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famous_P... http://www.visiting-the-dominican-republic.co... The originators of Son are th Cubans. The originators of Plean and Bomba are the Puerto Ricans. The originators of Merengue are the Domicans, The originators of Bachata are also the Dominicans. The originators of the first and only Reggaeton sound was by a Jamaican Panamanianm, but that song never got to no where but locally so. Puerto Rico with it's Plena and Bomba has taken all these great Latin and Jamaican sounds and made it into the most powerful listened to music in the world today, of which all these nations and contributors should be thankful and very proud of... Once a musically talented Puerto Rican gets his hand on anything music, it turns to gold and then real big money
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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PuertoRicans Uncreative wrote: <quoted text>
LOL, Puerto Ricans in the US are always having stupid "beef" with nearly every hispanic nationality out there LMFAO. Whether it is Mexicans, Cubans or Dominicans; they always have beef with other countries. The problem here are not our the Dominican brothers, nor the Mexicans, nor the Cubans, nor the Puerto Ricans musicians, the REAL problem, you envious loser, IS YOU!!!
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Don't forget that every year the Christmas music heard all over Latin America comes from Puerto Rico's Jivaro music....Ask any Central or South American. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
ISP:
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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“Saludos a mi Puerto Rico”
Since: Jun 08
Y a todo aquel que lo quiera.
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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This is information on different Latin American music and who is who's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_m...
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HairyGuy
Anaheim, CA
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PuertoRicans Uncreative wrote: The 3 most popular music genres in Puerto Rico; Salsa, Reggaeton and Merengue are ALL foreign music. Why hasn't Puerto Rico made a music genre that can be called authentically Puerto Rican? First; Puerto Ricans took Cuban Son and afro-cuban beats and rythims and called it "Salsa". Now people associate CUBAN beats and rythims with Puerto Rico. THIS is not Puerto Rican music and is not "Salsa", this is Cuban music played by Puerto Ricans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Yet people still call it "Puerto Rican Salsa". Then Came Panama; Puerto Ricans, as uncreative as they are, went to Panama, took the local Reggaeton music and made it into their own now NOONE associates Reggaeton with PAnama (although that's actually a good thing) and now they associate it with that's right! Puerto Rico. Now more recently is Dominican Merengue (lucky for the domincians, puerto ricans have no interest in Perico Ripiao); the uncreative puerto ricans are now trying to exploit Dominican music and call it theirs. It's already happening: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Good thing Puerto Ricans will never try to take away the most authentic of the DR's music, Perico Ripiao: http://www.youtube.com/watch... But they're still taking away Merengue, which was meant for Dominicans: http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... As a Cuban, I refuse to support Puerto Rican salsa music and choose to listen to Cuban "Salsa" or Son. I think Cubans, Dominicans, Venezuelans and Panamanians should work together and riot Puerto Rico. In my opinion; Cuba, DR, Venezuela and Panama are the low-key brothers who work hard while Puerto Rico is the dead-beat, cocaine-addict brother who hasn't worked a day in his life and just mooches off of the government and takes the credit for what his more prosperous brothers have done. You Puerto Ricans are evil, you have a fast yet monotone accent when you speak spanish and have a lust for stealing music. That is all. You must be really in denial. If it was'nt for the Puerto Ricans who keep the rhythms alive in the 70's via NYC by Bands like Fania-All-Star, Tico All-Stars and Coco All-Stars the Music would gone into hibernation. Us afficionados of La Musica all know this. We all love each other Cuba & PR. You obviously have some inferiority issues compounded by lack of knowledge. Enclosed are links to educate your mind: http://www.izzysanabria.com/ http://www.geocities.com/sd_au/articles/sdhsa... http://www.salsacorazon.co.uk/history_of_sals...
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