Why Hispanics REGARDLESS of group can't govern

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Gitano

Miami, FL

#1 Feb 9, 2013

This actually makes my point how Hispnics are to politially apathetic to ever have a real gvmt which isn't wall to wall with corruption and terrible police standards.

I do not include myself in the above (lol -Cuba libre indeed) nor the PR forum regs but let us be realistic, the apathy , the lack of will to fight back simply engulfs 90% of hispanics.

The Anglos sued the state for their killed citrus tree's and unlawfull entry into their property.

The VAST MAJORITY of Miami Hispanics , Cuban and not just took it and did nothing and don't get me started about the Black community.

"FORT MYERS Lee County homeowners who lost their citrus trees to the state's failed canker-fighting program will get their day in court again.

A Lee Circuit Court judge ruled Friday in favor of the homeowners, finding the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services is liable because it didn't fully compensate them for their residential trees that didn't have canker, but were destroyed by state crews anyway.

The next step is a jury trial. It will be up to the jury to decide how much money the homeowners are owed.

"As a homeowner, we are very grateful for the judicial system and how it worked. It was very fair and we are very pleased," said John Klockow, 71, one of the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit.
"

http://www.marconews.com/news/2013/feb/08/lee...

Since: May 10

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#2 Mar 23, 2013
Unity?

True, an injustice against one Latino group isn't felt equally as severe by others which are culturally and geographically distanced from it. For example, the Mexican immigration issues aren't as urgently relevant to PR's as they are to Dominicans, Cubans and Mexicans. Conversely, island statehood issues are of little concern to other non-Puerto-Rican Latinos.That is totally unlike AAs who react as a unit because of racial affinity and mutual interests.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#3 Mar 24, 2013
Gitano wrote:
This actually makes my point how Hispnics are to politially apathetic to ever have a real gvmt which isn't wall to wall with corruption and terrible police standards.
I do not include myself in the above (lol -Cuba libre indeed) nor the PR forum regs but let us be realistic, the apathy , the lack of will to fight back simply engulfs 90% of hispanics.
The Anglos sued the state for their killed citrus tree's and unlawfull entry into their property.
The VAST MAJORITY of Miami Hispanics , Cuban and not just took it and did nothing and don't get me started about the Black community.
"FORT MYERS Lee County homeowners who lost their citrus trees to the state's failed canker-fighting program will get their day in court again.
A Lee Circuit Court judge ruled Friday in favor of the homeowners, finding the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services is liable because it didn't fully compensate them for their residential trees that didn't have canker, but were destroyed by state crews anyway.
The next step is a jury trial. It will be up to the jury to decide how much money the homeowners are owed.
"As a homeowner, we are very grateful for the judicial system and how it worked. It was very fair and we are very pleased," said John Klockow, 71, one of the plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit.
"
http://www.marconews.com/news/2013/feb/08/lee...
Not all Hispanics are immigrants in the US.
Gitano

Miami, FL

#4 Mar 24, 2013
Brainiac2 wrote:
Unity?
True, an injustice against one Latino group isn't felt equally as severe by others which are culturally and geographically distanced from it. For example, the Mexican immigration issues aren't as urgently relevant to PR's as they are to Dominicans, Cubans and Mexicans. Conversely, island statehood issues are of little concern to other non-Puerto-Rican Latinos.That is totally unlike AAs who react as a unit because of racial affinity and mutual interests.
The post was more about Hispanics not fighting back and taking it, this is what I have seen here in Miami frm the vas majority regardless of hispanic tribe.

The transplants from other stes are different .
Gitano

Miami, FL

#5 Mar 24, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Not all Hispanics are immigrants in the US.
True

Since: Sep 12

Cidra, Puerto Rico

#6 Mar 25, 2013
I don't think it has anything to do with Hispanics or even ethnicity (race). It mostly has to do with democratic and republican governing concepts as set forth in Ancient Greek and Roman philosophy. British rule helped to spread this throughout the areas they ruled. Southern Europe was ruled by the Moors for many centuries and their concepts won out. As evidenced by recent events, that system of governance is a complete and utter failure. The only thing that seems to work in these areas is the rule of an iron-fisted dictator, whether it be secular or religious. Makes no difference whether it is Africa, Southwest Asia, Middle East, even Italy has had its problems and only 1/3 of it was under the Moors. Spain has had it's share of difficulty with Soviet intervention. The Spanish "Civil War" was nothing more than the USSR sewing discontent and trying to overthrow the Government. South and Latin America also suffer from this. In addition the latter two areas were set upon as satellite states by the Soviet Union dating as far back as the early '20's. The above is outlined in the book "Over the Abyss" written by a Soviet general who "wrote the book" on infiltration. This is a lethal combination that is hard to overcome. Several orders of magnitude more difficult than a heroin addict trying to come clean.
Can anyone explain where the Napoleonic form of law originated?
Gitano

Miami, FL

#7 Mar 25, 2013
JMWinPR wrote:
I don't think it has anything to do with Hispanics or even ethnicity (race). It mostly has to do with democratic and republican governing concepts as set forth in Ancient Greek and Roman philosophy. British rule helped to spread this throughout the areas they ruled. Southern Europe was ruled by the Moors for many centuries and their concepts won out. As evidenced by recent events, that system of governance is a complete and utter failure. The only thing that seems to work in these areas is the rule of an iron-fisted dictator, whether it be secular or religious. Makes no difference whether it is Africa, Southwest Asia, Middle East, even Italy has had its problems and only 1/3 of it was under the Moors. Spain has had it's share of difficulty with Soviet intervention. The Spanish "Civil War" was nothing more than the USSR sewing discontent and trying to overthrow the Government. South and Latin America also suffer from this. In addition the latter two areas were set upon as satellite states by the Soviet Union dating as far back as the early '20's. The above is outlined in the book "Over the Abyss" written by a Soviet general who "wrote the book" on infiltration. This is a lethal combination that is hard to overcome. Several orders of magnitude more difficult than a heroin addict trying to come clean.
Can anyone explain where the Napoleonic form of law originated?
Political apathy, apathy as a whole as far as not fighting back ,ethnic voting even when you know the parasite is corrupt (Miami Cuban specialty) has nothing to do with Rep or Dem type of governing.

It is what I have seen here from the hispanic community other than the "Americanized" transplants.

Having said that I do see your point .

We are great when it comes to horticulture .

"Cubans dominate illegal pot growhouse trade in Florida, drug and law enforcement officials say"

Cuban refugees are dominating arrests in Florida's indoor marijuana trade in what investigators call a nearly punishment-free crime.

South Florida is considered the center of a trade in which groups of young Cubans throughout the state are turning to the lucrative business of raising ultra-potent pot worth up to $4,500 a pound, without fear of deportation or lengthy prison sentences.

The topic is sensitive in a state where Cuban refugee status was a badge of honor until it was tainted by a few thousand criminals in the 1980s Mariel boatlift.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2009-10-30/n...
Jorge

Catano, Puerto Rico

#8 Mar 25, 2013
Gitano wrote:
<quoted text>
Political apathy, apathy as a whole as far as not fighting back ,ethnic voting even when you know the parasite is corrupt (Miami Cuban specialty) has nothing to do with Rep or Dem type of governing.
It is what I have seen here from the hispanic community other than the "Americanized" transplants.
Having said that I do see your point .
We are great when it comes to horticulture .
"Cubans dominate illegal pot growhouse trade in Florida, drug and law enforcement officials say"
Cuban refugees are dominating arrests in Florida's indoor marijuana trade in what investigators call a nearly punishment-free crime.
South Florida is considered the center of a trade in which groups of young Cubans throughout the state are turning to the lucrative business of raising ultra-potent pot worth up to $4,500 a pound, without fear of deportation or lengthy prison sentences.
The topic is sensitive in a state where Cuban refugee status was a badge of honor until it was tainted by a few thousand criminals in the 1980s Mariel boatlift.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2009-10-30/n...
What does the Cuba forum have to say about this?

Did you post this message there?
Gitano

Miami, FL

#9 Mar 25, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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What does the Cuba forum have to say about this?
Did you post this message there?
I posted it under my other moniker "Sandy".

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/miami-fl/TB9H...

Sandy is a bright "girl" who moved here from Europe with her family a few yrs back and shocked at how low the Miami Cuban political and police standards are.

She post in the Miami forum because she can't understand spanish thus doesn't go in the Cuba forum much but in truth both forums are somewhat "connected".

Don't tick me off and have me cme back in here under my other moniker "La Tisha Towler" , she is nobodys black fool .
Jorge

Catano, Puerto Rico

#10 Mar 25, 2013
Gitano wrote:
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I posted it under my other moniker "Sandy".
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/miami-fl/TB9H...
Sandy is a bright "girl" who moved here from Europe with her family a few yrs back and shocked at how low the Miami Cuban political and police standards are.
She post in the Miami forum because she can't understand spanish thus doesn't go in the Cuba forum much but in truth both forums are somewhat "connected".
Don't tick me off and have me cme back in here under my other moniker "La Tisha Towler" , she is nobodys black fool .
If La Tisha or any other of your monikers want to discuss Puerto Rican matters, they're all more than welcome.

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