What is a Puerto Rican colonial mentality?

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Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#1 Nov 14, 2012
According to Dr. Heriberto Acosta:

"....Puerto Rico no longer needs a colonialistic relationship with the United States; but in order to change our political and economic structure, we ought to change our mindset. In the process that awaits us in the next century we have to establish ourselves as equals with the people of the United States. If we really think that we are citizens of the United States, we cannot tolerate our colonial status and 936 type of business, which sacrifices the development of the native entrepreneur and the development of a healthy social personality.

We have to believe in our abilities, and demand what rightly belongs to us as citizens. We cannot tolerate members of Congress like Toby Roth, Newt Gingrich, Gerald Solomon and many other ugly Americans, who think that they are the owners of the system. If we really believe that we are Americans citizens, we should demand our right to be Latin Americans, to use the language we care to use, and to grow in our own customs and traditions. The search for equality should be one that conveys a civil right movement in the quest to attain similar rights as fellow citizens of the nation.

There is no need to ask Congress how it is going to be, we are the ones who clearly and assertively should declare how it is going to be. It is too late for Congress, or for any bureaucrat to stipulate any conditions to preclude equality for Puerto Rico. They are almost 100 years late. If people in Puerto Rico really believe that we are true American citizens, the opinion of any self-centered troglodyte should not deter us from seeking equality. If the U.S. Congress truly respects democratic and civilian tradition, no objection should be voiced to dodge away the aspirations of American citizens that no longer want to continue living in a colony, under the tutelage of the overwhelming economic power of the 936 companies. It is a question of self-assertiveness, and to diverge ourselves from 500 years of colonial mentality..."
TPMP

United States

#2 Nov 14, 2012
Anybody can find any proffesor that shares their point of view.

It is endless.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#3 Nov 14, 2012
TPMP wrote:
Anybody can find any proffesor that shares their point of view.
Are you calling me "anybody"????

LOL

My God, I feel disrespected....LOL

Come on, TPMP...

Relax.

You know that you have a colonized mentality (according to me and this doctor)...LOL
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#4 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling me "anybody"????
LOL
My God, I feel disrespected....LOL
Come on, TPMP...
Relax.
You know that you have a colonized mentality (according to me and this doctor)...LOL
I have a colonized mentality?.

No, i do not.

What on earth for?.

Projecting, Jorge?.
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Bear, DE

#5 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>I have a colonized mentality?.
No, i do not.
What on earth for?.
Projecting, Jorge?.
Indeed he is "projecting", in fact, he is "grabbing at straws" in his absurd quest to find scapegoats for his political imprisonment on HIS isle of disenchantment. The fact is that the article above is written solely for the people of Puerto Rico, which includes him and precludes us. He has not followed any of the directives mentioned and lives now with disappointment, frustration, resentment and bitterness over a foregone political process you and I were not entitled to or responsible for. He is "barking up the wrong tree", whereas he should be verbally chastising his fellow Puerto Ricans on the island who let him down by showing the same disinterest in the referendum as they had in the past(It is estimated by the NPP that 75,000 registered NPP voters did not show up at the polls). He chooses to lash out at us with his all-consuming political mumbo jumbo nonsensical rhetoric, instead of using his energies to head an island grass roots movement to demand his "rights".
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#6 Nov 15, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed he is "projecting", in fact, he is "grabbing at straws" in his absurd quest to find scapegoats for his political imprisonment on HIS isle of disenchantment. The fact is that the article above is written solely for the people of Puerto Rico, which includes him and precludes us. He has not followed any of the directives mentioned and lives now with disappointment, frustration, resentment and bitterness over a foregone political process you and I were not entitled to or responsible for. He is "barking up the wrong tree", whereas he should be verbally chastising his fellow Puerto Ricans on the island who let him down by showing the same disinterest in the referendum as they had in the past(It is estimated by the NPP that 75,000 registered NPP voters did not show up at the polls). He chooses to lash out at us with his all-consuming political mumbo jumbo nonsensical rhetoric, instead of using his energies to head an island grass roots movement to demand his "rights".
Very well stated.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#7 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>I have a colonized mentality?.
No, i do not.
What on earth for?.
Projecting, Jorge?.
Indifference is a colonialism at its very best.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#8 Nov 15, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed he is "projecting", in fact, he is "grabbing at straws" in his absurd quest to find scapegoats for his political imprisonment on HIS isle of disenchantment. The fact is that the article above is written solely for the people of Puerto Rico, which includes him and precludes us. He has not followed any of the directives mentioned and lives now with disappointment, frustration, resentment and bitterness over a foregone political process you and I were not entitled to or responsible for. He is "barking up the wrong tree", whereas he should be verbally chastising his fellow Puerto Ricans on the island who let him down by showing the same disinterest in the referendum as they had in the past(It is estimated by the NPP that 75,000 registered NPP voters did not show up at the polls). He chooses to lash out at us with his all-consuming political mumbo jumbo nonsensical rhetoric, instead of using his energies to head an island grass roots movement to demand his "rights".
As posted yesterday, the PR-US colonial pact has been broken and polarization is the new "ball game".

You can turn it, twist it around, accuse me of anything you want (hey, this is an open forum) but facts are facts-THE COLONIAL MENTALITY IN THE US LATIN COMMUNITY and in the US and Puerto Rico HAS BEEN EXPOSED (and there's no turning back).
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#9 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
Indifference is a colonialism at its very best.
Well, Jorge.

Why aren't you starting a grassroots movement?.

NOW. Is the time.

I can automatically think of several factors that work toward your advantage.

1) Native born, since you harp and revel on that point so much.

2)A great Education. You are polished.

3)A rich life experience to draw from. That is an asset.

4)Fluent English speaker.

5)You are in San Juan. Literally a stone's from PNP Hato Rey headquarters. I'm sure they would be delight for gung-ho volunteers.

6) Last but not least. Tons of infectious enthusiasm towards your cause.

6b) UPR connections

==========

Get working to it and stop complaining, dude.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#10 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>Well, Jorge.
Why aren't you starting a grassroots movement?.
LOL

And why do you think I've been suspended from the UPR?

I'll keep you posted these next months...
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#11 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
And why do you think I've been suspended from the UPR?
I'll keep you posted these next months...
I was under the impression that you were dismissed because of Anti-Gay discrimination.

Perhaps, i misinterpreted.

Well, you can still go volunteer at PNP headquarters. Work the phones, mailings, cold calls, fundraising....I'm sure they find a multitude of uses for your many talents.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#12 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>Well, Jorge.
Why aren't you starting a grassroots movement?.
NOW. Is the time.
I can automatically think of several factors that work toward your advantage.
1) Native born, since you harp and revel on that point so much.
2)A great Education. You are polished.
3)A rich life experience to draw from. That is an asset.
4)Fluent English speaker.
5)You are in San Juan. Literally a stone's from PNP Hato Rey headquarters. I'm sure they would be delight for gung-ho volunteers.
6) Last but not least. Tons of infectious enthusiasm towards your cause.
6b) UPR connections
==========
Get working to it and stop complaining, dude.
Why do you think that all NPP's are statehooders?

LOL

Its like thinking that all PDP's are against statehood.

You're stuck in the island's old political divisions (which changed back in the 1970's)....LOL
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#13 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you think that all NPP's are statehooders?
LOL
Its like thinking that all PDP's are against statehood.
You're stuck in the island's old political divisions (which changed back in the 1970's)....LOL
This is a response?.

It still took you a couple of minutes to respond. This is your second response to this post.

Are you laughing because you are nervous?.

I raised valid points, Jorge.

PNP can use you. It would be a more productive use of your time towards your desired goal. Jump to it.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#14 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you think that all NPP's are statehooders?
LOL
Its like thinking that all PDP's are against statehood.
You're stuck in the island's old political divisions (which changed back in the 1970's)....LOL
While I knew the PDP has always had a pro-statehood fraction (of course they call it something different) this is the first I have heard of the PNP having a anti-statehood fraction ... can you explain this more in depth?

That would be like joining the PIP but being opposed to independence ... it would not make sense.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#15 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>I was under the impression that you were dismissed because of Anti-Gay discrimination.
Perhaps, i misinterpreted.
There's no interpretation when someone posts direct messages.

My many demands helped shaped the UPR's many labor organizations.

I am currently working out my new demands...(in order to drag PR's public university system to the 21st century).

It has a cost me (in many ways) but when you feel compelled...not even death serves as a deterrent.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#16 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>This is a response?.
It still took you a couple of minutes to respond.
What????
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#17 Nov 15, 2012
LongIslander1987 wrote:
<quoted text>
While I knew the PDP has always had a pro-statehood fraction (of course they call it something different) this is the first I have heard of the PNP having a anti-statehood fraction ... can you explain this more in depth?
That would be like joining the PIP but being opposed to independence ... it would not make sense.
Welcome to the "world of politics".
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#18 Nov 15, 2012
LongIslander1987 wrote:
<quoted text>
While I knew the PDP has always had a pro-statehood fraction (of course they call it something different) this is the first I have heard of the PNP having a anti-statehood fraction ... can you explain this more in depth?
That would be like joining the PIP but being opposed to independence ... it would not make sense.
(L1987 quote)

"That would be like joining the PIP but being opposed to independence ... it would not make sense."

(unquote)

And welcome to Jorge's world.

Apparently, in his world "Bubblegum" trees really do exist.
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#19 Nov 15, 2012
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no interpretation when someone posts direct messages.
My many demands helped shaped the UPR's many labor organizations.
I am currently working out my new demands...(in order to drag PR's public university system to the 21st century).
It has a cost me (in many ways) but when you feel compelled...not even death serves as a deterrent.
OK. Continue to keep us posted to all these new developments. You have an audience.
TPMP

Bronx, NY

#20 Nov 15, 2012
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>This is a response?.
It still took you a couple of minutes to respond. This is your second response to this post.
Are you laughing because you are nervous?.
I raised valid points, Jorge.
PNP can use you. It would be a more productive use of your time towards your desired goal. Jump to it.
Heh, man..A little comic relief is in order for this thread.

I recall you stating that you are a big fan of of Aretha Franklin.

As i stated earlier..Go jump to your statehood cause.

Perhaps, Ms Franklin's song will inspire you.

LOL!

&fe ature=related

All in good humor.

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