P.Rico's bankruptcy is the colonial Trojan horse.

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Jorge

Catano, Puerto Rico

#1 Mar 19, 2013
As long as the island finances are a bankrupt mess, Puerto Rico will lie dependent on its master.

Its a win-win for anyone trying to keep the current dependency in island Puerto Rican collective psyche.

Keep them poor and bankrupt, they'll depend on Washington 'til the end of time.
Jorge

Catano, Puerto Rico

#2 Mar 19, 2013
Hey, we didn't invent this racket.

When NYC went bankrupt in 1970 and Albany and the DC washed their hands, they, purposely, started (like crazy) filling out federal forms for welfare (regardless qualifications)-thus, the "dependency racket" was born.

Luis Ferré brought it to the island in order to aid the poor, which Muñoz' colony could not "lift" (literally and figuratively); thus the NYC scheme crossed over, nationally.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#3 Mar 19, 2013
Jorge wrote:
Keep them poor and bankrupt, they'll depend on Washington 'til the end of time.
Classic PPD tactic right there.
Jorge

Catano, Puerto Rico

#4 Mar 19, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Classic PPD tactic right there.
Classic capitalism running wild!

Fidel Castro (and the Good Lord knows how I hate quoting him, but nobody's all bad or all good) once said-"...why does a billionaire need a billion dls...?"

And he's right.

Hoarders not only hoard junk like in the tv show.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#5 Apr 3, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Classic PPD tactic right there.
Will statehood be delayed?

Agapito's answer to statehood results, "...you want statehood? There, a bankrupt colony, now go ask Congress for it now!..."

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#6 Apr 3, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Will statehood be delayed?
Agapito's answer to statehood results, "...you want statehood? There, a bankrupt colony, now go ask Congress for it now!..."
Back to their old tactics that started under Sila and Anibal to bankrupt the colony.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#7 Apr 3, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Back to their old tactics that started under Sila and Anibal to bankrupt the colony.
Which translates that this leadership gives a flying fig about what happens to our poor and working classes.

When is our other half going to wake up to this reality?

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#8 Apr 3, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Which translates that this leadership gives a flying fig about what happens to our poor and working classes.
When is our other half going to wake up to this reality?
It seems to me that many of the diehard Populares who ALWAYS vote PPD no matter what are older people who fondly remember the days of Munoz Marin. It's sort of how like up until the 1960s many Blacks ALWAYS voted Republican because that was the party of Lincoln.

Has the voter demographics in terms of voter registration ever been established?
TPMP

Corona, NY

#9 Apr 3, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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It seems to me that many of the diehard Populares who ALWAYS vote PPD no matter what are older people who fondly remember the days of Munoz Marin. It's sort of how like up until the 1960s many Blacks ALWAYS voted Republican because that was the party of Lincoln.
Has the voter demographics in terms of voter registration ever been established?
Bro, i'm usually with you.

But, this is not entirely accurate. Go back and check the facts.

Blacks voted in huge numbers for Roosevelt.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#10 Apr 3, 2013
TPMP wrote:
<quoted text>Bro, i'm usually with you.
But, this is not entirely accurate. Go back and check the facts.
Blacks voted in huge numbers for Roosevelt.
Very interesting, I stand corrected. Was this in 1932 as well or just 36, 40, and 44?
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#11 Apr 3, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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It seems to me that many of the diehard Populares who ALWAYS vote PPD no matter what are older people who fondly remember the days of Munoz Marin. It's sort of how like up until the 1960s many Blacks ALWAYS voted Republican because that was the party of Lincoln.
Has the voter demographics in terms of voter registration ever been established?
Lincoln Republicans are not today's Republicans.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#12 Apr 3, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Very interesting, I stand corrected. Was this in 1932 as well or just 36, 40, and 44?
The modern Republican Party, established in 1854, was an anti slavery party.
Gitano

Miami, FL

#13 Apr 3, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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The modern Republican Party, established in 1854, was an anti slavery party.
I agree todays southern GOP would probably even bring slavery back if they could.

I can't fathom being Black and even looking at the "new" GOP.
Gitano

Miami, FL

#14 Apr 3, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Which translates that this leadership gives a flying fig about what happens to our poor and working classes.
When is our other half going to wake up to this reality?
Changes like handicapped parking, more street lights,etc can be made by individuals but changes like politicians who actually do things instead of one empty speech after another only come from the majority voters , if the majority are not that concerned that they do not bother voting and start looking at new faces than things remain as is.

BTW , as you know as a whole the poor and working class have a deplorable voting record and that is not going to change.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#15 Apr 4, 2013
Gitano wrote:
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...BTW , as you know as a whole the poor and working class have a deplorable voting record and that is not going to change.
What do you know about Puerto Rico's working and poor classes' voting habits?

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#16 Apr 4, 2013
Gitano wrote:
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I agree todays southern GOP would probably even bring slavery back if they could.
I can't fathom being Black and even looking at the "new" GOP.
The major problem is that after Goldwater was defeated by Johnson in 1964 the party took a hard swing to the right and adopted the bible thumpers (Rick Santorum, Jerry Falwell, etc) which is what turns off alot of people from the GOP brand. Before 1964 the Republican Party was quite centrist, many even supported FDR's "New Deal" in the 1930s; they were called "Me To" Republicans. Then of course we also have the "Rockefeller Republicans" (the modern day RINOs).
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#17 Apr 4, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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It seems to me that many of the diehard Populares who ALWAYS vote PPD no matter what are older people who fondly remember the days of Munoz Marin. It's sort of how like up until the 1960s many Blacks ALWAYS voted Republican because that was the party of Lincoln.
Has the voter demographics in terms of voter registration ever been established?
Blacks presence has increased in the US; while "populete" presence is decreasing more by the minute, expecially since the Muñocistas are finding their way to Heaven.

P.Rican voter demographics are established come election year, these change dramatically every 4 yrs or so.

Heck, last time I checked it was the "smokers vs. non smockers" vote...LOL

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#18 Apr 4, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Blacks presence has increased in the US; while "populete" presence is decreasing more by the minute, expecially since the Muñocistas are finding their way to Heaven.
P.Rican voter demographics are established come election year, these change dramatically every 4 yrs or so.
Heck, last time I checked it was the "smokers vs. non smockers" vote...LOL
Very interesting, here on the mainland it is relatively static in terms of party affiliation. One big change recently is that more and more White people tend to vote Republican, in fact more White people voted Republican in 2012 than ever before in American history ... but it is meaningless as the Republican Party is ignoring demographics - and as they say, "Demographics is destiny".
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#19 Apr 4, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Very interesting, here on the mainland it is relatively static in terms of party affiliation. One big change recently is that more and more White people tend to vote Republican, in fact more White people voted Republican in 2012 than ever before in American history ... but it is meaningless as the Republican Party is ignoring demographics - and as they say, "Demographics is destiny".
I don't know if demographics within a state are as predictable, but in this colony, they all went "South" (to h ell) this past Nov.
Before, it used to be, urban vs. rural (urban being, mostly pro statehood), and so on...

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#20 Apr 4, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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I don't know if demographics within a state are as predictable, but in this colony, they all went "South" (to h ell) this past Nov.
Before, it used to be, urban vs. rural (urban being, mostly pro statehood), and so on...
Interesting, many urban communities like Caguas or Mayaguez tend to strongly lean PPD ... Ponce was also strongly PPD under Charumba and until Mayita came along. I don't think Mayaguez has had a non-PPD mayor since the 1960s (Benjamin Cole and now Guillito).

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