Do any Italians in the house want to ...

Do any Italians in the house want to "pass as Puerto Ricans"????

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Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#1 Feb 24, 2013
LOL
Corsican immigration toPR

Miami, FL

#2 Feb 25, 2013
Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico came about as a result of various economic and political changes in the mid-19th century Europe; among those factors were the social-economic changes which came about in Europe as a result of the Second Industrial Revolution, political discontent and widespread crop failure due to long periods of drought, and crop diseases. Another influential factor was that Spain had lost most of its possessions in the so-called "New World" and feared the possibility of a rebellion in its last two Caribbean possessions—Puerto Rico and Cuba. As a consequence the Spanish Crown had issued the Royal Decree of Graces (Real Cedula de Gracias) which fostered and encouraged the immigration of European Catholics that were not of Spanish origin to its Caribbean Colonies.

The situation and opportunities offered, plus the fact that the geographies of the islands are similar, were ideal for the immigration of hundreds of families from Corsica to Puerto Rico. Corsicans and those of Corsican descent have played an instrumental role in the development of the economy of the island, especially in the coffee industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_immigra...
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#4 Feb 25, 2013
Corsican immigration toPR wrote:
Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico came about as a result of various economic and political changes in the mid-19th century Europe; among those factors were the social-economic changes which came about in Europe as a result of the Second Industrial Revolution, political discontent and widespread crop failure due to long periods of drought, and crop diseases. Another influential factor was that Spain had lost most of its possessions in the so-called "New World" and feared the possibility of a rebellion in its last two Caribbean possessions—Puerto Rico and Cuba. As a consequence the Spanish Crown had issued the Royal Decree of Graces (Real Cedula de Gracias) which fostered and encouraged the immigration of European Catholics that were not of Spanish origin to its Caribbean Colonies.
The situation and opportunities offered, plus the fact that the geographies of the islands are similar, were ideal for the immigration of hundreds of families from Corsica to Puerto Rico. Corsicans and those of Corsican descent have played an instrumental role in the development of the economy of the island, especially in the coffee industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_immigra...
Italians not French...LOL

Which is the reason why many island Puerto Ricans pronounce their "r's" like the French (when these are between vowels).
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#5 Feb 25, 2013
Corsican immigration toPR wrote:
Corsican immigration to Puerto Rico came about as a result of various economic and political changes in the mid-19th century Europe; among those factors were the social-economic changes which came about in Europe as a result of the Second Industrial Revolution, political discontent and widespread crop failure due to long periods of drought, and crop diseases. Another influential factor was that Spain had lost most of its possessions in the so-called "New World" and feared the possibility of a rebellion in its last two Caribbean possessions—Puerto Rico and Cuba. As a consequence the Spanish Crown had issued the Royal Decree of Graces (Real Cedula de Gracias) which fostered and encouraged the immigration of European Catholics that were not of Spanish origin to its Caribbean Colonies.
The situation and opportunities offered, plus the fact that the geographies of the islands are similar, were ideal for the immigration of hundreds of families from Corsica to Puerto Rico. Corsicans and those of Corsican descent have played an instrumental role in the development of the economy of the island, especially in the coffee industry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_immigra...
In fact, around the Cédula de Gracia's time (1815), Italy (nor Germany) didn't exist.

France did, however.
Gitano

Miami, FL

#6 Feb 25, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Italians not French...LOL
Which is the reason why many island Puerto Ricans pronounce their "r's" like the French (when these are between vowels).
Some Italians in NY could easily pass as French and vice versa ,lol.
Gitano

Miami, FL

#8 Feb 25, 2013
Jorge wrote:
<quoted text>
Italians not French...LOL
Which is the reason why many island Puerto Ricans pronounce their "r's" like the French (when these are between vowels).
The people in this forum are not 1/4 as dumb as the Cuban forum, Thank God for the free federal gvmt aid or who knows where we Cubans would be.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#9 Feb 25, 2013
Gitano wrote:
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Some Italians in NY could easily pass as French and vice versa ,lol.
Neither the French nor Italians want to "pass as NewYoricans".
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#10 Feb 25, 2013
Gitano wrote:
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The people in this forum are not 1/4 as dumb as the Cuban forum, Thank God for the free federal gvmt aid or who knows where we Cubans would be.
Here, in this forum, all "stateside 'Ricans" and Puerto Ricans have been Americans for generations.

The US came to us, we didn't go to them.

The Cuban experience impacted the Cuban immigration to our nation.
Patria o miami

Miami, FL

#11 Feb 25, 2013
Jorge wrote:
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Here, in this forum, all "stateside 'Ricans" and Puerto Ricans have been Americans for generations.
The US came to us, we didn't go to them.
The Cuban experience impacted the Cuban immigration to our nation.
How true, USA came to you , we came (fled) to USA.

"The real cowards were the people who ran from the good fight with Fidel Castro. The real Cuban patriots...either died fighting Castro or still are in Cuba fighting for freedom,” and he said,“The motto during our American Revolution was,‘Give me liberty or give me death.’ To too many Cubans,” he added,“the motto was ‘Give me liberty or give me Miami.’”

http://www.popularsovranty.org/mdc.shtml
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#12 Feb 25, 2013
Patria o miami wrote:
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How true, USA came to you....
...and still, each and every US overseas colonial territory is impeded of voting Congressional representation (while we all pay federal taxes) and from voting to the same person which, historically un to 1975, sent generations of young American men to fight its wars (while suffering segregation and other kinds of humiliations).
Anonymous

Waltham, MA

#13 Feb 26, 2013
Honestly, no. I would be offended if someone mistook me for Puerto Rican. I am Italian American and despite some of you saying otherwise I see little commonalities between us except Catholicism and a somewhat similar language.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#14 Feb 26, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, no. I would be offended if someone mistook me for Puerto Rican. I am Italian American and despite some of you saying otherwise I see little commonalities between us except Catholicism and a somewhat similar language.
Of course NOT.

You're proud of your Italian heritage and of a healthy self esteem.

I can't say the same thing for any NewYorican who wants to "pass as an Italian" and boasts as if it were some huge personal accomplishment.

Since: Oct 12

West Islip, NY

#15 Feb 26, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, no. I would be offended if someone mistook me for Puerto Rican. I am Italian American and despite some of you saying otherwise I see little commonalities between us except Catholicism and a somewhat similar language.
Most Puerto Ricans are not even Catholic anymore but rather one of the Protestant denominations. Evangelicalism in particular is big.

As always, Jorge is spot on. More Puerto Ricans have served in Iraq & Afghanistan than from any other state or territory except Nevada.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#16 Feb 26, 2013
LongIslander1987 wrote:
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Most Puerto Ricans are not even Catholic anymore but rather one of the Protestant denominations. Evangelicalism in particular is big.
As always, Jorge is spot on. More Puerto Ricans have served in Iraq & Afghanistan than from any other state or territory except Nevada.
Jorge is spot on about what?.

Most PR's are still catholic.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#17 Feb 26, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, no. I would be offended if someone mistook me for Puerto Rican. I am Italian American and despite some of you saying otherwise I see little commonalities between us except Catholicism and a somewhat similar language.
Of course, we are different.

Italians from Italy are actually Europeans.

Wouldn't the world be dull if we were all the same?.

I am speaking of physical characteristics. Go up in the hills and Mountains of PR where some of those families have been in the island only since the 1800's. Many of the towns inhabitants have distinct European features.

Utuado, Lares, San Sebastian, Juana Diaz....Many more
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#18 Feb 26, 2013
El cacique wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, we are different.
Italians from Italy are actually Europeans.
Wouldn't the world be dull if we were all the same?.
I am speaking of physical characteristics. Go up in the hills and Mountains of PR where some of those families have been in the island only since the 1800's. Many of the towns inhabitants have distinct European features.
Utuado, Lares, San Sebastian, Juana Diaz....Many more
No Italians wannabe's there in those towns....LOL

Like Cindy Adams from the New York Post says:

"...only in New York, kids, only in New York...."
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#19 Feb 26, 2013
El cacique wrote:
<quoted text>Jorge is spot on about what?.
Most PR's are still catholic.
Shush...

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