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Puerto Ricans must unite, all 8 million of them and protest to have congress vote an up or down vote to make Puerto Rico either a state of the Union or totally independent on its own..

No more commonwealth!!

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Puerto Ricans--U.S. Citizens in Limbo
At the end of 1995, the U.S. Department of State agreed to recognize the petition of Juan Mari Bras, 68, of Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, to renounce his U.S. citizenship.

Bras claimed that U.S. citizenship is an imposed foreign citizenship, and declared that he was "Boricua" first.(Boricua is the Taino word for Puerto Rican). He did this, in part, to buttress the claim that Puerto Rico is a separate nation.

Since then, at least 500 other Puerto Ricans have also renounced their U.S. citizenship, says Jose Lopez, director of the Puerto Rican Cultural Center in Chicago. Prompted by this pro-independence fervor, Puerto Rican leaders across the country say it is time for Puerto Ricans to reflect upon what it means to be a U.S. citizen. And they have called for the celebration of "Boricua First"--a National Puerto Rican Affirmation Day--on March 29 in Washington D.C. This gathering will bring to light the concerns of Puerto Ricans both on the island and on the mainland.

Puerto Rico became part of the United States in 1898 as a result of the Spanish-American War in which Spain ceded the island. In 1917, the Jones Act made Puerto Ricans U.S. citizens. "Puerto Ricans didn't choose to be Americans," points out Howard Jordan, managing editor of Critica, a publication of the New York-based Institute for Puerto Rican Policy (IPRP).

Puerto Rico's commonwealth status means that island residents cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections. Yet, Puerto Ricans have repeatedly voted against statehood (the last time, in 1993) partly because many fear that statehood would mean they would be forced to assimilate and would lose their Latin American culture.

Many Americans view Puerto Ricans as immigrants and newcomers, says Jordan. And they are often treated accordingly. It is not unheard of for U.S. immigration agents to ask Puerto Ricans for foreign passports, and for Puert Ricans to suffer discrimination in the workplace as suspected "illegal aliens."

Confusion over Puerto Rican identity is rooted in Puerto Rico's colonial relationship--political, cultural and linguistic--to the rest of the United States.

There are approximately 6.5 million Puerto Ricans in the United States, who make up 2.5 percent of the total U.S. population. However, when the island is excluded from the Census count--which is standard practice--the percentage decreases to around 1 percent.

When the residents of Puerto Rico are counted as part of the U.S. Latino population, Puerto Ricans make up 24 percent of all Latinos, but only half that when Puerto Rico's population is excluded.

This intentional miscount reinforces the notion that Puerto Ricans are not part of the United States, leaving them in a political twilight zone. "It relegates them to second class citizenship," says Angelo Falcon, IPRP president. As a result, government officials virtually ignore the concerns of Puerto Ricans--a population that has the highest levels of poverty and unemployment in the country.

The Census also slights the Puerto Rican community through its creation of the generic "Hispanic" category. Lumped together under this one heading, specific Latino communities become invisible. So, while the different groups must assert their uniqueness, they must also be willing to unite when all Latinos are being attacked, says Falcon.

Another identity issue for Puerto Ricans has surfaced in Philadelphia. There, the police department has infuriated the Latino community by deciding to follow federal guidelines and recognize only black, white, Asian and Native American racial categories. This policy forces Latinos to accept official U.S. government definitions of race--which essentially do not recognize races that are mixed.

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"Pretty much, All Latinos are mestizos(of mixed race). We have a little bit of everything," says Lizette Ortiz, president of the Latino American Student Association at West Chester University, Pa. The U.S. government has taken Latinos' land (Puerto Rico and half of Mexico); through legislation, politicians are trying to take away our language (Spanish); and now the federal government is attempting to impose an identity upon us, says Ortiz. "That's where we draw the line."

Angel Ortiz, a Philadelphia city councilman, says that once Latinos are forced to accept the official U.S. definitions of race, census bureaucrats and other government officials "will inject us with their virus of racism." The U.S. Census generally does not acknowledge race mixture, instead reinforcing historically racist and dangerous concepts of "racial purity." As a result of the councilman's intervention, the police department is reviewing its new policy.

The purpose of "Boricua First," says Jordan, is to focus Washington's attention on the specific political and economic agenda of Puerto Ricans and to get Puerto Rican bureaucrats in Washington to be more responsive to their communities.

Thousands from around the country are expected to participate in the bipartisan event. "Boricua First" activities will commence at the Vietnam Memorial and will highlight the historical role of Boricuas in defending the United States in wars throughout the nation's history.(There are, for example, 2,000 Puerto Rican names on the Vietnam memorial wall.) The day will end with the presentation of petitions to the President for the pardon of 15 Puerto Rican political prisoners--who are in prison because of violent independence-related activities against U.S. military installations in Puerto Rico and corporate targets on the mainland. Most were charged with committing "seditious conspiracy," highlighting the old adage that "one man terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

The leaders also hope to link up with the October 12 Latino march on Washington--as equal partners, they say; not simply as supporters.

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Puerto Rico's still present commonwealth status still means that island residents cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections. We have no choice in the matter though we are US citizens.

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Democracy for Puerto Rico now!!!!
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Puerto Rico's still present commonwealth status still means that island residents cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections. We have no choice in the matter though we are US citizens.
Puerto Ricans also receive welfare and federal aid from the US as well and I gaurantee they don't want to give that up! For most Puerto Ricans, being a commonwealth is the ideal situation. They still have their identity and, for the most part, are not governed by the US yet they receive aid and can enter and leave the US as they please without a passport/ green card.

PR cannot survive on it's own, there are too many people there and not enough jobs. Do you have an industry to employ people that will take the place of US aid? How will you get rid of the corrupt government?

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Puerto Ricans also receive welfare and federal aid from the US as well and I gaurantee they don't want to give that up! For most Puerto Ricans, being a commonwealth is the ideal situation. They still have their identity and, for the most part, are not governed by the US yet they receive aid and can enter and leave the US as they please without a passport/ green card.
PR cannot survive on it's own, there are too many people there and not enough jobs. Do you have an industry to employ people that will take the place of US aid? How will you get rid of the corrupt government?
You most definitely speak out of your racist background and ignorance.

http://www.prdailysun.com/index.php...

Second of all Puerto Ricos is not yet a state and out 4 million people living there only 54,000 are actually on welfare rol;l in Puerto Rico. I would hardly call that a welfare state as you in your ignorance just falsely did.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_...

Third of all, Puerto Rico's employment situation is already showing signs of improvement

http://www.prdailysun.com/...

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And last but not least, slave masters,

when Americans only allow Puerto Ricans in Puerto Rico to make only half of the salary in Puerto Rico than what they can make in the USA, while pretty much everything in Puerto Rico costs more than in the states, they, the government has to come up with a supplemental plan to overcome the extreme poverty that the USA has forced many Puerto Ricans into in Puerto Rico......You do the simple math....An American in Montana gets paid $18 an hour for the same type of job that a Puerto Rican gets paid in Puerto Rico, but at only $8 an hour, while the Montanans only pays $2.95 for a gallon of milk in Montana, a Puerto Rican is now paying for the same gallon of milk at $4.95 per gallon....Now some one has to make up the slack in order for poor hardworking, but yet enslaved Puerto Ricans to survive, and when Uncle Sam takes out of Puerto Rico over 47 billion dollars a year, in exports and goods, but only imports 17 million dollars a year into Puerto Rico, it is no wonder that the USA does not let this golden egg small island of Puerto Rico go free for over 112 years now, and neither does it want it to become a state either, for if it does, they would have to pay Puerto Ricans, as a state of the union,$18 an hour and allow them to buy the same gallon of milk, not for $4.95 per gallon, but for $2.95 per gallon as well to.....

KISS JustNotTheFacts.....

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KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid...

My simple answer, to all of this so called welfare handouts in Puerto Rico, which was designed and created by the US government to help keep the people of Puerto Rico poor, ignorant and laborly enslaved, is to make Puerto Rico free, as an independent nation, and then you can stick all of those welfare checks and handouts up their hineys, which is not really free handouts at all, but was designed to help keep the people of Puerto Rico, ignorant, poor and enslaved, so that they could set up their sweat shops all over the island while paying them only half of what a stateside resident can make in the states in the good old USA....We've never been dealt with a full deck of cards nor a fair hand, and we've never been treated as equals to all other stateside residents, not even as legal US citizens of the USA...It's time for America to right it's wrongs in and with Puerto Rico and not continue to live on purpose blind to its own wrong doings...It's time to let Puerto Rico go, or just make us into the 51st state of the union with the same equal treatment and legal civil rights that all mainland US citizens do get unlike the Puerto Rico of today....

Until then, Yankee go home...Puerto Rico is not yours but ours.

And since you are a US Citizen, tell Congress to let Puerto Rico go. since they will never make us into a full state of the union, equal to all other states...Either we have an intimate relationship, or we don't.....Thre is no in between relationship that lasts, and our present commonwealth status is an in between relationship between the USA and Puerto Rico, as there is no solid full commitment nor full loyalty between the 2, as anything goes....Either Congress is for us or Congress is just against us....Do Tell your congressman to tell the US Federal Congress to let my people go...We will not stop protesting until it is done, one way or the other.....Crazy as we may sound to many, we are not crazy, just fully determined, and our new determination is going to be omnipotent...

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Democracy for Puerto Rico now!!!!
Meant to say, "A FREE INDEPENDENT DEMOCRACY FOR PUERTO RICO, NOW!"
Whether we sink or swim on our own should not be a no haters concern for humiliation purpose as that is all that motivates their phony concerns...We can if we believe we can, and we will if given the opportunity to be on our own.....Believe and receive doubt and you will do without.

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The Americans take much more out of Puerto Rico thant they bring in, so Puerto Rico is not a welfare state for the US government, only for the haters, but a profitable island that they refuse to let go now for more than 112 years. If Puerto Rico was not a gain for the USA but a liability it would have let go of Puerto Rioo a long time ago, don't you think?

http://www.prdailysun.com/index.php...

Puerto Rico's employment situation is already showing signs of improvement which is much to say about Puerto Rico that it is not a total welfare state country as many redneck racist haters of AMERICA want to accuse us of, FALSELY SO.

http://www.prdailysun.com/...

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Also do notice, that Puerto Ricans have a higher home ownership too. Having a higher home ownership means that most Puerto Ricans are not on welfare.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archi...

Here are the links to prove who are the MAJORITY of real welfare recipients in America.

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/i...

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T8MEM7Q...

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This is some of the reasons why the US does not let Puerto Rico go as the US makes and saves money off and on our Puerto Rican laborers and political status, they lose nothing with Puerto Rico, they gain if not they would have let us go a long time ago, don't you think?.
http://www.smartplanet.com/people/blog/pure-g...
Discovery of Renewable energy in Puerto Rico.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Puerto Ricans have a higher home ownership.
http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archi...

And please know, Puerto Rico does not live off tourism and music alone,

Puerto Rico ** La Isla Del Encanto ** Paradise, Beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Beautiful PR videos......Videos de Puerto Rico

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Did you see that San Juan, Puerto Rico has been voted as the best city to live in out of all Latin American cities?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

FYI, Puerto Rico has it's 4 own 4 large banks, Banco Popular being it's biggest.
http://www.thecommunitybanker.com/bank_links/...

The now second largest Spanish speaking televison station in the world, second to Univision, is Telemundo, the first
Puerto Rican owned television station in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WKAQ-TV

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First of all, tiny Puerto Rico has created and sold Yauco and Bustelo coffee, wordwide.
http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.islands.PR....

Goya Beans and hundreds of Goya products worldwide......
http://www.goyapr.com/
http://www.goya.com/english/about/contact_us....

Bacardi Rum and hundreds of other popular rums too .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_R...

Hundreds of other products also.

http://www.prproducts.com/

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/343468

http://pr.countrysearch.tradekey.com/

You will see that the worlds most favorite and most famous rums are all created in Puerto Rico,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_R...

from a little tiny island, 105 miles long by 35 miles wide, with only 4 million people living in it Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans have accomplished alot. But no, people only dwell on the ugly and the bad....

Also Puerto Rico produces about 80% of all prescriptions taken daily here in the USA....
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/...

The most popularly sold music in the Latin American World and now catching fire in both Europe and the USA, 8 out 10 songs now come from Puerto Rico.
http://www.musicofpuertorico.com/index.php/ge...

Plus Puerto Rico does carry Latin America longest most famous people list...And yes it does come from Puerto Rico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famous_P...

And to help keep it even more positive, I repeat some of the long lists once again.

Puerto Ricans have sacrificed many lives in all US wars since 1898.

http://www.vetfriends.com/memorial/mem_alphab...

http://www.archives.gov/research/vietnam-war/...

http://www.vetfriends.com/memorial/mem_alphab...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marine_69-7...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-1...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Puerto_...

http://latinmusic.about.com/od/countrie1/p/PR...

http://www.meetpuertorico.com/sports/default....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Puert...

An honest fact in life about Puerto Rico most famous people list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_R...
No wonder many resent us....We are an awesome people from a very small and tiny Island....God for some good reason has shined his light upon us....Thanks be to Him and Him only for all of our achievements in life...

SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO THE MOST MODERN AND COSMOPOLITAN CITY IN THE CARIBBEAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Also do notice, that Puerto Ricans have a higher home ownership too. Having a higher home ownership means that most Puerto Ricans are not on welfare.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archi...

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Puerto Ricans also receive welfare and federal aid from the US as well and I gaurantee they don't want to give that up! government?
Does not all the states of the union. all 50 of them do that already....Just look at California's over one milliono welfare recipients to Puerto Rico's 54,000 plus. No comparison and it is not Hispanics that are the largest recipients of welfare and federal aid, but the whites and second to them, the blacks.

Compare with the data for each state, and not with your hate, which is nothing but an unclean human waste.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_...

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/i...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T8MEM7Q...

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Does not all the states of the union. all 50 of them do that already, recieve welfare and Federal funds....Just look at California's over one million welfare recipients to Puerto Rico's 54,000 plus.

There is No comparison whatsoever and it is not Hispanics that are the largest takers or recipients of welfare and federal aid, but the whites, and second to them, the blacks.

Compare statistical data for each state, and not with your hate, which is nothing but an unclean human waste.

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_...

http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/i...

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Puerto Rico's 8 million Puerto Ricans must all unite and take this fight, peacefully so, to Washington, to the US Congress and then to the opinion of the world...

Let no one tell us otherwise as they want us to continue in Commonwealth status limbo so that they can continue to have their cake and eat it too.

Today I and Jorge are alone, tomorrow we could be 8 million strong and our voices WILL BE HEARD, in the highways and the bi-ways and all night long!!!
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<quoted text>You most definitely speak out of your racist background and ignorance.
http://www.prdailysun.com/index.php...
Second of all Puerto Ricos is not yet a state and out 4 million people living there only 54,000 are actually on welfare rol;l in Puerto Rico. I would hardly call that a welfare state as you in your ignorance just falsely did.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_...
Third of all, Puerto Rico's employment situation is already showing signs of improvement
http://www.prdailysun.com/...
I KNOW PR is not a state, yet they still receive federal aid and benefits and can enter and leave the US as they please without a passport/ greencard. And I don't know how many are on the US welfare rolls, but the US gives billions of dollars to PR annually, some of that money is for assistance programs, and there are WAY more than 54,000 puerto ricans getting that assistance, the checks may come from the PR government, but the FUNDS come from the US! I know, I lived there for 3 years. ALSO, I am not racist, just telling the truth, the economy may be picking up, but PR is no where near equipped to be independant and there are just too many people there and not enough jobs...period.

Furthermore, speaking of racism, I know firsthand that many puerto ricans are very racist against mexicans and dark skinned blacks, that's a fact and you know it. Also, you still did not tell me how in the world PR is going to support itself?
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Does not all the states of the union. all 50 of them do that already, recieve welfare and Federal funds....Just look at California's over one million welfare recipients to Puerto Rico's 54,000 plus.
There is No comparison whatsoever and it is not Hispanics that are the largest takers or recipients of welfare and federal aid, but the whites, and second to them, the blacks.
Compare statistical data for each state, and not with your hate, which is nothing but an unclean human waste.
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco_wel_cas_...
http://www.progress.org/banneker/cw.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/i...
First of all, I said nothing about Hispanics receiving more welfare. Stop twisting my words and pay attention. Also, you are comparing apples to oranges, how many and what race of people receive welfare in CA is irrelevant - THEY are a US STATE! I'm saying that PR is NOT a state, yet they receive assistance from the US. You say PR should be independant, I am simply saying that there are many puerto Ricans (meaning people living in PR!)that rely on the US and PR cannot survive on its own. It has nothing to do with RACE, you made it into that not me!

You cannot tell me that many people in PR are living jobless and not receiving some sort of government assistance. Like I said, the check may come from PR, but the MONEY is from the US.

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