Eli Lilly--One of PR's largest phamaceuticals is closing

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TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Nov 13, 2012
La farmacéutica Eli Lilly anunció hoy a sus trabajadores el cierre de las operaciones de la planta de Guayama el 31 de enero próximo, lo que también ocurrirá en la de Carolina a mediados de 2013.

Los trabajadores de las instalaciones situadas en Guayama fueron informados hoy de este nuevo escenario, que dejaría en la calle, en principio, a cerca de 300 personas.

Con aproximadamente 1,700 empleados en Puerto Rico, Eli Lilly produce en la isla medicamentos, como Cymbalta y Zyprexa.

Sin embrargo, la compañía que tiene plantas de manufactura en Carolina, Guayama y Mayagüez, no ha confirmado, ni rechazado la información.
http://www.vocero.com/eli-lilly-anuncia-cierr...
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#2 Nov 13, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
La farmacéutica Eli Lilly anunció hoy a sus trabajadores el cierre de las operaciones de la planta de Guayama el 31 de enero próximo, lo que también ocurrirá en la de Carolina a mediados de 2013.
Los trabajadores de las instalaciones situadas en Guayama fueron informados hoy de este nuevo escenario, que dejaría en la calle, en principio, a cerca de 300 personas.
Con aproximadamente 1,700 empleados en Puerto Rico, Eli Lilly produce en la isla medicamentos, como Cymbalta y Zyprexa.
Sin embrargo, la compañía que tiene plantas de manufactura en Carolina, Guayama y Mayagüez, no ha confirmado, ni rechazado la información.
http://www.vocero.com/eli-lilly-anuncia-cierr...
Why do you always choose negative news of Puerto Rico?
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Nov 13, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Why do you always choose negative news of Puerto Rico?
This is the reality of the colony...AGP said he was going to tax the corporations on the island. Are they ahead of the curve and leaving because of him? If Fortuno was governor, would they stay? Unemployment is a recurring problem on the island. When Lilly leaves, those employees will be coming the states to look for employment. I have always anticipated all of the pharmaceuticals leaving the island as they can make their products elsewhere for less. Why shouldn't I be concerned about my people?
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#4 Nov 13, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
<quoted text> Why shouldn't I be concerned about my people?
"concerned"?

Southern plantation owners defended their slavery system "out of concern" (for the well being of slaves).
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#5 Nov 13, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
<quoted text> Unemployment is a recurring problem on the island. When Lilly leaves, those employees will be coming the states to look for employment.
Always remember that the States IS our nation.

"Those employees", as you call them, will just move around this great nation of ours (same as you did, looking for a better jobs, a better deal in state taxes, etc.).

Of course, they will have to speak English if they are willing to relocate, same as I demand anyone relocating to Puerto Rico to speak Spanish (or risk being ostracized).
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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"concerned"?
Southern plantation owners defended their slavery system "out of concern" (for the well being of slaves).
This sarcasm is highly inappropriate and hardly apropos.
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Always remember that the States IS our nation.
"Those employees", as you call them, will just move around this great nation of ours (same as you did, looking for a better jobs, a better deal in state taxes, etc.).
Of course, they will have to speak English if they are willing to relocate, same as I demand anyone relocating to Puerto Rico to speak Spanish (or risk being ostracized).
The problem you seem to overlook is the fact that most Puerto Ricans do not speak English well or do not speak it all all. Employment anywehre in the U.S. becomes problematic.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#8 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
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This sarcasm is highly inappropriate and hardly apropos.
Anyone choosing negative articles about Puerto Rico "out of concern" always reminds me of the irony (not sarcasm) of Southern politicians and their "concern" for keeping the institution of slavery (by carefully choosing each and every negative aspect about slaves).
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#9 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
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The problem you seem to overlook is the fact that most Puerto Ricans do not speak English well or do not speak it all all. Employment anywehre in the U.S. becomes problematic.
Why do you insist on segragating island Puerto Ricans (to Puerto Rico) by calling us a "problem because we do not speak English well or do not speak it at all"?

Are you absolutely sure that's all you're worried about?
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Anyone choosing negative articles about Puerto Rico "out of concern" always reminds me of the irony (not sarcasm) of Southern politicians and their "concern" for keeping the institution of slavery (by carefully choosing each and every negative aspect about slaves).
Sorry, but this is a poor analogy, not to mention that you are imputing wrong motives--which all goes back to your crabbiness because the NPP lost the election. Always give your fellowman the benefit of the doubt.
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Why do you insist on segragating island Puerto Ricans (to Puerto Rico) by calling us a "problem because we do not speak English well or do not speak it at all"?
Are you absolutely sure that's all you're worried about?
Not speaking English in an English-speaking world is a problem, unless one wishes isolation or islanders wish to remain insular in their colony.
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Nov 14, 2012
Lilly Pharmaceuticals (in Carolina) is one of the world's largest industrial plants. I have passed that plant for decades on my countless visits to the island, and now to see the close of this landmark is upsetting, as I think of all those who will be losing their jobs. What is so difficult for you to understand about that?
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Why do you insist on segragating island Puerto Ricans (to Puerto Rico) by calling us a "problem because we do not speak English well or do not speak it at all"?
Are you absolutely sure that's all you're worried about?
Where did I say that Puerto Ricans are a "problem"?
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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Anyone choosing negative articles about Puerto Rico "out of concern" always reminds me of the irony (not sarcasm) of Southern politicians and their "concern" for keeping the institution of slavery (by carefully choosing each and every negative aspect about slaves).
Your implication here is that I ONLY choose negative articles about Puerto Rico. You have been here long enough to know that this is not the case. We are being a bit tempermental, aren't we?
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#15 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
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Sorry, but this is a poor analogy, not to mention that you are imputing wrong motives--which all goes back to your crabbiness because the NPP lost the election. Always give your fellowman the benefit of the doubt.
I will focus on the topic being discussed.

I am one of those who believe that we, island boricuas, have all the right to "move around" and feel that the US is ours (as much as anyone elses).

Our Spanish language skills makes us way more marketable, once we decide to "go for the States". Like my parents decided to venture and polish their education by going to the States and competing at an academic level (and my sis and I followed their example); I'm all for anyone deciding challenging their own fears confronting themselves.

I am against segregating anyone (and then disguising it as "concern").

Celebrate the fact that we overcome ourselves and confront the stateside gringo with their own bigotry.

And....if anyone settles for whatever (be that life as a welfare recipient), he/she is entitled.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#16 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
<quoted text>Not speaking English in an English-speaking world is a problem, unless one wishes isolation or islanders wish to remain insular in their colony.
Fearing that you don't deserve your fair share of our nation's wealth is an even bigger problem.

The fact that I celebrate any Anglo gringo who wishes to come to an all Spanish speaking part of the US, I think my people deserve (as US citizens) to move around, regardless...(the fact that many of our fellow citizens insist on viewing it as "a problem").

I don't see an Anglo gringo with poor Spanish language skills as "a problem".
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#17 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
Lilly Pharmaceuticals (in Carolina) is one of the world's largest industrial plants. I have passed that plant for decades on my countless visits to the island, and now to see the close of this landmark is upsetting, as I think of all those who will be losing their jobs. What is so difficult for you to understand about that?
It's your choice of posted articles that I'm having difficulty.

But, hey...those are your choices and I'm here to react.

That's what forums are for.

I don't question your persona; just the motives behind your choice.
Jorge

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#18 Nov 14, 2012
TRUTH IS RELATIVE wrote:
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Where did I say that Puerto Ricans are a "problem"?
It ws you who used the word "problem".

Island Puerto Ricans are the only US citizens that are confronting language challenges once we move to any state.

Any other immigrant has done so voluntarily.

We are entitled, regardless if we are viewed as a problem (that's not OUR problem).
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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I will focus on the topic being discussed.
I am one of those who believe that we, island boricuas, have all the right to "move around" and feel that the US is ours (as much as anyone elses).
Our Spanish language skills makes us way more marketable, once we decide to "go for the States". Like my parents decided to venture and polish their education by going to the States and competing at an academic level (and my sis and I followed their example); I'm all for anyone deciding challenging their own fears confronting themselves.
I am against segregating anyone (and then disguising it as "concern").
Celebrate the fact that we overcome ourselves and confront the stateside gringo with their own bigotry.
And....if anyone settles for whatever (be that life as a welfare recipient), he/she is entitled.
Explain HOW I am "segregating" anyone. You and your family are the perfect example of what education and a working knowledge of the English language can accomplish (success) and with that knowledge one can defeat the "imperialists" (I use that term loosely) at their own "game". If all islanders followed our example on their own terms, we as a people would be a force to contend with.
TRUTH IS RELATIVE

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Nov 14, 2012
Jorge wrote:
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It's your choice of posted articles that I'm having difficulty.
But, hey...those are your choices and I'm here to react.
That's what forums are for.
I don't question your persona; just the motives behind your choice.
Ok...so you are imputing wrong motives--which is essentially prejudicial and biased. Do you say the same for all of the journalists in PR who publish negative stories of which the local news outlets sensationalize daily? The story about the Lilly plant closure came from Caribbean Business Online--one of my favorite PUERTO RICAN business and news sources.

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