Letters: Austerity is not the only answer

Dec 18, 2011 Full story: Guardian Unlimited 11

Martin Kettle rightly clams that Labour must present a credible economic alternative but is wrong in presuming that this means "no more money" or that hard times never benefit the left .

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“Progressive liberal politic”

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#1 Dec 18, 2011
EU need economy development, economy competitiveness, less taxes, less bureaucracy, open borders, more freedom, and basic EU need to become common country.

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#2 Dec 24, 2011
Less tax on business, surely, but how can we do it with all the money handed under the table by our "European friends" to our lovely corrupt political class for not doing that?

See the pressure put on Ireland for increasing their corporate tax? They do the same to Portugal.

We must leave the EU

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#3 Dec 25, 2011
JoaoP wrote:
We must leave the EU
EU need to become common country. If not become common country will dissolve, and all Europe will return 70 years back.

If frangogermans not want EU to become common country, then better to Mediteranean countries with UK and East Europe to unite in common country and create the New Roman Empire.

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#4 Dec 26, 2011
neobyzantine wrote:
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EU need to become common country. If not become common country will dissolve, and all Europe will return 70 years back.
If frangogermans not want EU to become common country, then better to Mediteranean countries with UK and East Europe to unite in common country and create the New Roman Empire.
Europe is a too serious matter to be left playing as a childlish games of joining countries. Portugal has a chance to be well as independent country if it does the right policies. The right policies goes against EU interests. We do not neet to join other countries. We need to have the right taxation policies, as well as appropriate economic policies.

Your kind of rethoric is the common EU rethoric that only benefit Central Europe. Portugal is not in Central Europe, so it has nothing to gain from the EU. Get real!

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#5 Dec 26, 2011
If EU destroy, or if Portugal go out of EU and is alone, this means poverty for Portugal.

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#6 Dec 26, 2011
neobyzantine wrote:
If EU destroy, or if Portugal go out of EU and is alone, this means poverty for Portugal.
Do you really believe in that rethoric? We are EU and there's a lot of poverty, because we are not allowed to produce anything. The only ones who are not poor are the public servants and the farmers who get EU subsides for keeping their lands without production. They spend that money in jeeps, expensive dinners and houses. The politicians who get bribed for defending the EU are also rich. They are the ones who will loose.

There are ways of being well while out of the EU. That means having good and proper economic policies. It does not mean being an isolated closed country. Portugal could be out and having a negotiated system of free movement of people with Europe.

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#7 Dec 28, 2011
JoaoP wrote:
We are EU and there's a lot of poverty, because we are not allowed to produce anything. The only ones who are not poor are the public servants and the farmers who get EU subsides for keeping their lands without production. They spend that money in jeeps, expensive dinners and houses.
Those problems are because of conservatives poliyics.

EU need economy development, economy competitiveness, open borders, free trade, free movement, less bureaucracy, less taxes, more freedom, and basic EU need to become common country.

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#8 Dec 28, 2011
Those problems are because of conservatives politics.

EU need economy development, economy competitiveness, open borders, free trade, free movement, less bureaucracy, less taxes, more freedom, and basic EU need to become common country.

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#10 Dec 31, 2011
Not having contributed to the EU?
What about the large purchases of German submarines (useless), German trams, trains, cars and all kinds of machinery, Dutch agricultural produce, English financial advice (could be done here), etc?
It's a good issue you place here, because the ones that do not want us to leave the EU are the Germans and the Dutch. They do not want to loose markets.

Just to give you an example: The largest Portuguese firm, SONAE, has its de facto offices and headquarters in Portugal, but its oficial headquarters are in the Netherlands, why? Because there they pay only 7% of corporate tax. In Portugal they would pay over 25%. If Portugal was out of the EU, this situation wouldn't be admissible. Who benefits from this sample of inumerous situations, Portugal? ha ha ha! don't tell me bullshit!

Also I do not know what has Albania, a country which you surely do not know anything about it, to do with this.

I do not need EU money and I did not ask for that. None here has voted YES to belong to the EU, to have the euro and the Lisbon treaty. This was done by corrupt politicians. They get bribes. You're right about the corruption. The couterpart of that is to be banned from producing.

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#11 Jan 2, 2012
If Portugal want to export need economy competitiveness, less taxes, less bureaucracy, open borders, more freedom.

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#12 Jan 2, 2012
And need to stop having the EU pushing for not reducing the corporate tax.

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