Ukraine must give Lvov back to Poland!

Ukraine must give Lvov back to Poland!

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ludwik
#1 Nov 7, 2012
Ukraine is an insolent country and we had enough talks, it's time to act and return everything that belongs to Poland and start with Lvov. It never belonged to Ukraine, but it was perfidiously taken from us after the WWII and given to them! We have to redress historical injustice and force Ukraine to compensate the damage it caused to Poland! Polish citizens had property in Lvov before they were forced to leave their homes and we must organize a movement that will set things right, and to do so we must ask our government to work measures towards Ukraine that will prevent it from making provocations against Poland and its citizens who deserve to get back theirs. But Poland is not the only party that was aggrieved, and I'm sure that Romania also must join our cause and return Odessa. Together we can make it! Let's get to work...
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#2 Nov 7, 2012
ludwik wrote:
Ukraine is an insolent country and we had enough talks, it's time to act and return everything that belongs to Poland and start with Lvov. It never belonged to Ukraine, but it was perfidiously taken from us after the WWII and given to them! We have to redress historical injustice and force Ukraine to compensate the damage it caused to Poland! Polish citizens had property in Lvov before they were forced to leave their homes and we must organize a movement that will set things right, and to do so we must ask our government to work measures towards Ukraine that will prevent it from making provocations against Poland and its citizens who deserve to get back theirs. But Poland is not the only party that was aggrieved, and I'm sure that Romania also must join our cause and return Odessa. Together we can make it! Let's get to work...
You're just trying to stir up problems. Unfortunately things are the way they are. The only way to change things to the way you want is to start a war. Europe has had enough wars. Actually Poles should just be thankful that they have their own nation now when for most of the last few hundred years they did not.
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#3 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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You're just trying to stir up problems. Unfortunately things are the way they are. The only way to change things to the way you want is to start a war. Europe has had enough wars. Actually Poles should just be thankful that they have their own nation now when for most of the last few hundred years they did not.
Do not dumb Polaks start most of Europe's wars?(-:
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#4 Nov 7, 2012
polski kielbasa a RuSSian Idiot wrote:
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Do not dumb Polaks start most of Europe's wars?(-:
No your Russian Retard Moscow has started more wars and killed more people then Berlin has.

So you're using your Ukraine proxy ISP address now?
Martix

Kraków, Poland

#5 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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You're just trying to stir up problems. Unfortunately things are the way they are. The only way to change things to the way you want is to start a war. Europe has had enough wars. Actually Poles should just be thankful that they have their own nation now when for most of the last few hundred years they did not.
Thankful to whom and for what? For loosing in WWII a half of Polish pre-war teritory, 160 towns and cities, 6 million of Polish citizens, about 800 bn USD (material losses)? 1,14 mln affected with serious illness, 590 000 injuried.

READ:
http://www.naszdziennik.pl/wp/8876,niesplacon...

Ukrainian nationalists conducted genocide of about 200 000 Poles and even dont want to admit it. Now Ukraininans threat the mass murerers who brutally murdered 200 000 innocent Polish citizens as national heroes and erect their monuments. The only problem for them are Poles who still live there and the memory of the victims of Ukrainian nationalism.

"The last few hundred years?- how did you count it??????

PS Do you think that a victim should sit quietly and be thankful that wasnt annihilated? Why don't you give the same advices in Holocaust subjects?
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#6 Nov 7, 2012
Martix wrote:
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Thankful to whom and for what? For loosing in WWII a half of Polish pre-war teritory, 160 towns and cities, 6 million of Polish citizens, about 800 bn USD (material losses)? 1,14 mln affected with serious illness, 590 000 injuried.
READ:
http://www.naszdziennik.pl/wp/8876,niesplacon...
Obviously I don't mean Poland should be thankful for its losses in wars. I mean Poland today lives in a relatively safe time and should be thankful for it. Its not being ruled by foreign nations.
Martix wrote:
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"The last few hundred years?- how did you count it??????
PS Do you think that a victim should sit quietly and be thankful that wasnt annihilated?
From 1795-1917 Poles did not have their own country and also from 1945-1990. That's within the last 300 hundred years.
Martix wrote:
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Why don't you give the same advices in Holocaust subjects?
What should I say about the Holocaust?
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#7 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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What should I say about the Holocaust?
Why are crooked Polaks so good at running concentration camps?
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#8 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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Obviously I don't mean Poland should be thankful for its losses in wars. I mean Poland today lives in a relatively safe time and should be thankful for it. Its not being ruled by foreign nations.
Polakia is part of two multinational bureaucracies, the EU and NATO, so of course it is under the thumb of foreigners.
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#9 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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From 1795-1917 Poles did not have their own country and also from 1945-1990. That's within the last 300 hundred years.
Not to mention its current occupation by the Franco-German empire called the EU.
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#10 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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No your Russian Retard Moscow has started more wars and killed more people then Berlin has.

So you're using your Ukraine proxy ISP address now?
What Ukrainian proxy ISP? Another of your totally bonkers conspiracy theories?(-:
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#11 Nov 7, 2012
polski kielbasa wrote:
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Why are crooked Polaks so good at running concentration camps?
Why are does your Moscow love to murder millions of people?

It doesn't matter whether Csars or Soviets run Moscow. Moscow loves to give orders to murder.

Why does your Moscow have so much blood on its hands?
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#12 Nov 7, 2012
polski kielbasa wrote:
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Why are crooked Polaks so good at running concentration camps?
Poles never ran concentration camps. Russians did. Russians gleefully built and ran hundreds of Soviet Gulag concentration camps many years before Germans built them.

In fact Russians were desperate to become friends with Germany in 1939 so that Russians can TEACH and impress the Germans with all their Russian know how of how to build and run death camps.
AbeUG

Bridgewater, NJ

#13 Nov 7, 2012
polski kielbasa wrote:
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Not to mention its current occupation by the Franco-German empire called the EU.
More of your paranoid Russian delusions and conspiracy theories?

Maybe you prefer Moscow's occupation of Poland intead.
polski kielbasa

West Palm Beach, FL

#14 Nov 7, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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Poles never ran concentration camps. Russians did. Russians gleefully built and ran hundreds of Soviet Gulag concentration camps many years before Germans built them.

In fact Russians were desperate to become friends with Germany in 1939 so that Russians can TEACH and impress the Germans with all their Russian know how of how to build and run death camps.
Even today dumb Polaks run torture camps for the CIA.
fyi

Seattle, WA

#15 Nov 7, 2012
Martix wrote:
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Thankful to whom and for what? For loosing in WWII a half of Polish pre-war teritory, 160 towns and cities, 6 million of Polish citizens, about 800 bn USD (material losses)? 1,14 mln affected with serious illness, 590 000 injuried.
READ:
http://www.naszdziennik.pl/wp/8876,niesplacon...
Ukrainian nationalists conducted genocide of about 200 000 Poles and even dont want to admit it. Now Ukraininans threat the mass murerers who brutally murdered 200 000 innocent Polish citizens as national heroes and erect their monuments. The only problem for them are Poles who still live there and the memory of the victims of Ukrainian nationalism.
"The last few hundred years?- how did you count it??????
PS Do you think that a victim should sit quietly and be thankful that wasnt annihilated? Why don't you give the same advices in Holocaust subjects?
It seems Abe thinks the massacres of Poles in Volhynia is something Poland should forget and forgive while on the other hand never forgetting or forgiving Katyn massacre of Poles.
Martix

Kraków, Poland

#16 Nov 8, 2012
AbeUG wrote:
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Obviously I don't mean Poland should be thankful for its losses in wars. I mean Poland today lives in a relatively safe time and should be thankful for it. Its not being ruled by foreign nations.
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From 1795-1917 Poles did not have their own country and also from 1945-1990. That's within the last 300 hundred years.
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What should I say about the Holocaust?
I can add that these losses above (from my #5 post) concerns only the present Polish territories! The Polish Eastern pre-war territiries (the lost 160 town, cities, people, posesions etc) were not included! Poland has suffered the biggest economic and in % of the population losses from all countries during WWII!!!

Abe only for 123 yers there was no Polish state/nation. But Polish nation (the people) existed. From 1945 to 1989 there was a Poish country but it was ruled by Soviet puppets. Even if you add this it is 200 not 300 ;). Even at present many of these pepole from communist government are in power and still are present in Polish legislative and executive powers, judiciary, mass media and bussiens and they create the reality in Poland. We haven't cut the dishonourable roots off and we still have post-communism.

"What should I say about the Holocaust?" Tell the same.
"You're just trying to stir up problems. Unfortunately things are the way they are. The only way to change things to the way you want is to start a war. Europe has had enough wars. Actually [Jews] should just be thankful that they have their own nation now when for most of the last few hundred years they did not. "

I think that Poles have the same right to demand justice as the Jews.The poroblem is that the Jewish circles should direct their claims to Germans, Ukrainians and the Allies not to Poles who were the same victims in the WWII.

PS I dont think that we live in a safe time an were are not better prepared for dangers and protected as before WWII.

“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

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#17 Nov 8, 2012
Since Polaks lost the most, how come there are still over 40 million of these dummies around ?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#18 Nov 8, 2012
Some say it is because they worked so extensively to the krauts and kholkhozniks. Polak broads even gave birth to little limpy kielsabas who were a mixture of all three. Ukrainkan stray dogs were apparently there with the Reds.
Pro Ukraine

London, UK

#19 Nov 8, 2012
ludwik wrote:
Ukraine is an insolent country and we had enough talks, it's time to act and return everything that belongs to Poland and start with Lvov. It never belonged to Ukraine, but it was perfidiously taken from us after the WWII and given to them! We have to redress historical injustice and force Ukraine to compensate the damage it caused to Poland! Polish citizens had property in Lvov before they were forced to leave their homes and we must organize a movement that will set things right, and to do so we must ask our government to work measures towards Ukraine that will prevent it from making provocations against Poland and its citizens who deserve to get back theirs. But Poland is not the only party that was aggrieved, and I'm sure that Romania also must join our cause and return Odessa. Together we can make it! Let's get to work...
Idiot, nowhere in Ukraine belongs to Poland or any other country, are you willing to hand Danzig back to Germany?
Annie

Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK

#20 Nov 8, 2012
This is a stupid thread and a brainless idea. Maybe you want to recreate Prussia too?

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