do Poles support Karpatalja returning...

do Poles support Karpatalja returning to Hungary

Created by Ukras give Lwow back on Jan 19, 2013

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Yes, Hungarains built all the cities.

Yes, it was Hungarian for longest.

Yes, Hungarians gave it culture.

Yes, Ukra peasents had it only since 1991.

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TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#1 Jan 19, 2013
I did not make this poll btw

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#2 Jan 19, 2013
But either way, Ukrainians should give back the land they owe Polish and Hungarians.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#3 Jan 19, 2013
Yes you did and no it shoudn't.
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

Finland

#4 Jan 19, 2013
Puke booby aka pro farty trying foreplay with the magyar.
Pro Ukraine

UK

#5 Jan 19, 2013
Finfart aka Cod Face looking for his bf Pissy and not finding him, try the Magyar forum.
Annie

Cheshunt, UK

#6 Jan 19, 2013
why would Poles want ghoulish neighbours? The further the better is surely the popular view.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#7 Jan 19, 2013
Polish-Hungarian border = good for Poland, good for Hungary
Annie

Cheshunt, UK

#8 Jan 19, 2013
lol more like good for nothing.
Abe

Bridgewater, NJ

#9 Jan 19, 2013
I think in general European borders should be kept the same because changing them would bring too many complications and problems.

However, since there are many Hungarians living in Southern Slovakia....maybe the Hungarian northern border should be moved north to encompass this large Hungarian block of people.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#10 Jan 19, 2013
Abe you always go on about Slovakia, but many Hungarians in Subkarpatia as well.

I think Subkarpartia should become autonomous province of Hungary
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#11 Jan 19, 2013
Abe wrote:
I think in general European borders should be kept the same because changing them would bring too many complications and problems.
1. Problem with legislation changing such borders for Ex Hungarian borders...

Comes German whining to wish to create such similar borders for Ex German borders in Silesia & Pomerania....

2. Problem with Hungarian war to get back such Ex Hungarian borders.

Comes the potential for NATO to get involved & do to Hungary which NATO did to Serbia for Serbia trying to keep it's borders in Bosnia & Kosovo.

That is the least..... I mean... Russia could also use such a situation to their advantage in war too...

So... It could be potentially disasterous for Hungary it's self & even potentially the general region / whole of Europe if Russia & NATO both got involved....
Abe

Bridgewater, NJ

#12 Jan 19, 2013
Kraut Germ Virus Man wrote:
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1. Problem with legislation changing such borders for Ex Hungarian borders...
Comes German whining to wish to create such similar borders for Ex German borders in Silesia & Pomerania....
2. Problem with Hungarian war to get back such Ex Hungarian borders.
Comes the potential for NATO to get involved & do to Hungary which NATO did to Serbia for Serbia trying to keep it's borders in Bosnia & Kosovo.
That is the least..... I mean... Russia could also use such a situation to their advantage in war too...
So... It could be potentially disasterous for Hungary it's self & even potentially the general region / whole of Europe if Russia & NATO both got involved....
'

Yeah you're probably right.

That's why I usually tell people today that European borders should be left alone. Because even the nations that may get more territory by changing borders at their neigbhor's expense....will probably face a whole bunch of unintended consequences like you say.

This is one reason why I tell Polish nationalists not to changed the Poland-Ukraine borders. The borders are what they are.

Having said that....if countries like Hungary and Poland can dramatically increase their populations in the decades ahead....who knows what kind of options they might have. Sometimes a country can take over part of another nation's land without firing a shot. By simply increasing their population and shoving their population into the nation next door. This is partly how Germany was able to steal territory from Poland and other nations and how Russia has been able to defacto control parts of the nations near it. Like Eastern Ukraine.

Now the Chinese are doing what the Russians did and slowly acquiring Russian Siberian territory by pushing hordes of Chinese people into Russia. Part of Russia will become Chinese without the Chinese firing a shot.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#13 Jan 19, 2013
http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-maps/dist_of...

This is where Hungarian language is majority

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#14 Jan 19, 2013
Transylvania
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72...

Slovakia http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

http://hzz.easr.sk/prieskum/priesk_k/obr/mada...

Ukraine: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Serbia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

This is off course based official government data,
There are many mixed people, and Hungarians who identify with the country they live in.

This also after 92 years of assimilation, genocide, deportation
Abe

Bridgewater, NJ

#15 Jan 19, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
http://mapsof.net/uploads/stat ic-maps/dist_of_hungarian_lang uage_europe.png
This is where Hungarian language is majority
Today...like Hal said....its hard for a nation to expand its borders by military force since NATO might get involved and hurt that nation like it did to Serbia.

So as a proud Hungarian nationalist.....you have to ask yourself....what kind of plan could we have to increase Hungarian power and influence?

In my opinion...

number 1) would be for Hungary to try to increase its population as much as possible. There are many good looking Hungarian women so that shouldn't be so hard for Hungarian men :)

number 2) maybe Hungarian government can give incentives to Hungarians across the world to come back to Hungary.

number 3) maybe Hungarians in countries near Hungary can become more assertive in politics in their away nations....so that politics in those nations can be more Pro-Hungary.

Those are just some things off the top of my head.

What do you think?
Abe

Bridgewater, NJ

#16 Jan 19, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Transylvania
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72...
Slovakia http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://hzz.easr.sk/prieskum/priesk_k/obr/mada...
Ukraine: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Serbia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
This is off course based official government data,
There are many mixed people, and Hungarians who identify with the country they live in.
This also after 92 years of assimilation, genocide, deportation
I did not know there were that many Hungarians in other European nations.

If Hungarians in those countries can become more active in their regional politics that would help Hungary. If they can keep reproducting in those regions....that would be good too.

So at least you have something to work with.

:)

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#17 Jan 19, 2013
I have thought about this, and points 1,2 and 3 are the exact same ones I thought about.

Anyway, Hungary needs to short its own problems before we bring our problems to othr countries.
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#18 Jan 19, 2013
Abe wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not know there were that many Hungarians in other European nations.
If Hungarians in those countries can become more active in their regional politics that would help Hungary. If they can keep reproducting in those regions....that would be good too.
So at least you have something to work with.
:)
Poland has similar situation... Not to the extent of Hungary... Poland after WW1 had a much. much worse situation... With major Polish majorities in West Ukraine, West Belarus, South Lithuania, North Czech Republic & East Germany.....

...
.....Polish people in Lithuania.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Lithuan...

Polish people in Belarus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Belarus

Polish people in Czech Republic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_minority_...
Abe

Bridgewater, NJ

#19 Jan 19, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
I have thought about this, and points 1,2 and 3 are the exact same ones I thought about.
Anyway, Hungary needs to short its own problems before we bring our problems to othr countries.
Yes....this is also true with Poland and other countries.

I think that Jobbik nationalist party is a good start in Hungary. And Fck those Jews who don't like it LOL
Anonymous

Brewster, NY

#20 Jan 19, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
I have thought about this, and points 1,2 and 3 are the exact same ones I thought about.
Anyway, Hungary needs to short its own problems before we bring our problems to othr countries.
4. is increase the Economy.

More Economy = more buying power for miltary & it's citizens & technology potential.

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