Polish monastery may hold unknown Mozart works

A team of musicologists is reviewing 19th-century copies of musical scores from a Polish monastery's archives in hopes that some might prove to be previously unknown works by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

[truthist]

A man that I know more than my grandfathers is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Movies, books, of course, his works. He is almost alive.

Maybe there is even more to know about him at this stage.

[HealingTime]

It would appear that finding new works by Mozart is as probable as finding little green men on Mars. However, if it happened at Jasna Gora, it sure would be fun!

The man was the Hendrix of his time, a young genius who passed away without being given the chance to reach maturity.

[pankov]

HealingTime wrote:

The man was the Hendrix of his time

i would even say enrique iglesias of XVIII cenury

[Silkyjohnson]

Hendrix ROCKS
!!!!!!!!!!

[HealingTime]

pankov wrote:

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i would even say enrique iglesias of XVIII cenury

Nah, I think we'll stick with Hendrix if you don't mind!!

[pankov]

i dont mind,as you guys I belive that jimmy was one of the gratest musicians of the modern era

[HealingTime]

Panie Pankowie, when you ask about Mozart people know, when you ask about Hendrix people know ... but when you mention Julio Inglesias' little boy, people say WTF? Chalk and cheese just don't taste right together ;-)

[pankov]

i was just kidding. enrique is one season hero for teen girls. i just dont know if its right to compare mozart to hendrix. i would rather say that hendrix was the musician whose absolut talent was closest to the mozarts genius.

[Cash]

pankov wrote:

i dont mind,as you guys I belive that jimmy was one of the gratest musicians of the modern era

He wasn't even the greatest musician of his own era. He just happened to die and get idolized by young people who like their musicians dead. He had impeccable timing, I will give you that, but do you seriously listen to his albums and think you are listening to the greatest guitarist? Seriously?

[truthist]

Cash wrote:

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He wasn't even the greatest musician of his own era. He just happened to die and get idolized by young people who like their musicians dead. He had impeccable timing, I will give you that, but do you seriously listen to his albums and think you are listening to the greatest guitarist? Seriously?

Cash, who qualifies as the greatest?? Seriously?

[HealingTime]

Cash wrote:

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He wasn't even the greatest musician of his own era. He just happened to die and get idolized by young people who like their musicians dead. He had impeccable timing, I will give you that, but do you seriously listen to his albums and think you are listening to the greatest guitarist? Seriously?

Cash,

Hendrix really only made four studio albums and all of them were destined for the consumption of the kids at the time. However he was only 27 when he died and bootleg material he did with the likes of John MacLoughlin point to a more mature direction in which he could have gone.

This was a poor kid made good. But if you watch him playing live, even the straight forward simple pop stuff, you see a guy who had "natural" written over him in huge gold letters. Timing yes, but the way it all flowed so effortlessly was the mark of a man only giving 10-20% of what he had. Any other guitarist of the time and up to present are stilted and workman-like in comparision.

Mozart was in a similar vein, although obviously his music and situation was not comparable. had he been given a freer hand to compose music which he wanted to compose, and allowed to reach a late stage, like Beethoven, then who knows what he would have come up with. But the similarity is the natural flow of the music. Nothing is forced it just happens like water flowing downhill. This was common to both and a quality that is rare to find in any genre.

[HealingTime]

truthist wrote:

<quoted text>Cash, who qualifies as the greatest?? Seriously?

Greatest is only definable by what went before, therefore the earlier composers or guitar palyers have it easier.

Many would say Mozart and Hendrix.

My personnal preference is for Neil Young and Beethoven. I'm not qualified to judge on technicalities. But there are lots of smaller guys who suit the mood of the day better.

I think it's a question that cannot have an answer

[truthist]

HealingTime wrote:

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Greatest is only definable by what went before, therefore the earlier composers or guitar palyers have it easier.
Many would say Mozart and Hendrix.
My personnal preference is for Neil Young and Beethoven. I'm not qualified to judge on technicalities. But there are lots of smaller guys who suit the mood of the day better.
I think it's a question that cannot have an answer

I had an answer already. Ta ta... ANDRES SEGOVIA.

Well, not in the Rolling Stones Magazine kind of way. Clearly, the greatest classical guitarist. I like him a lot.

[Marcia Neil]

[Unlike Apollo who was a popinjay, perhaps Mozart was a marionette. in Stuart, FL]

[Cash]

truthist wrote:

<quoted text>Cash, who qualifies as the greatest?? Seriously?

I assume we are sticking with rock guitarists. I said previously Hendrix had great timing but his arc was toward jazz - rock people always want validation so anyone who puts in some jazz or classical gets put on a pedestal, like Hendrix with jazz or even Yngwie Malmsteen with classical.

There are three guitarists I would say are equal to Hendrix in rhythm - Joe Perry of Aerosmith Chet Atkins and Eric Johnson. As far as overall ability, Eddie Van Halen cannot be matched.

If we only include dead guys in rock, Randy Rhoads can stand up to anyone.

If we're opening this up to fingerstyle, there are too many to name. They just aren't famous or dead or famous for being dead.

I agree Segovia is good but he is more Spanish than classical and that's an acquired taste. I can't listen to a whole album of Spanish guitar any more than I can listen to a whole album of bluegrass.

[truthist]

Cash wrote:

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I assume we are sticking with rock guitarists. I said previously Hendrix had great timing but his arc was toward jazz - rock people always want validation so anyone who puts in some jazz or classical gets put on a pedestal, like Hendrix with jazz or even Yngwie Malmsteen with classical.
There are three guitarists I would say are equal to Hendrix in rhythm - Joe Perry of Aerosmith Chet Atkins and Eric Johnson. As far as overall ability, Eddie Van Halen cannot be matched.
If we only include dead guys in rock, Randy Rhoads can stand up to anyone.
If we're opening this up to fingerstyle, there are too many to name. They just aren't famous or dead or famous for being dead.
I agree Segovia is good but he is more Spanish than classical and that's an acquired taste. I can't listen to a whole album of Spanish guitar any more than I can listen to a whole album of bluegrass.

Exquisite.

Thank you, Cash. Your judgement means a lot to me. I will be doing more listening and more enjoying the guitarists whom you mentioned.

One more thing about Andres Segovia is that he had a significant influence on composers. That is another angle, of course.

This was delicious. Thanks.

[HealingTime]

truthist wrote:

<quoted text>I had an answer already. Ta ta... ANDRES SEGOVIA.
Well, not in the Rolling Stones Magazine kind of way. Clearly, the greatest classical guitarist. I like him a lot.

Segovia had a great finger picking style, but sucked when it came to controlled feedback!

If you're a Texas Boy, then perhaps you should listen some more to home grown legend Stevie Ray Vaughn. Sure the Hendrix influence is there and to in-validate his reputation, the Jazz uber alles crowd at Montreux bood and jeered him throughout his first concert. WHich just goes to show that few people know how to slip out of their own particular genre, and perhaps that is also a mark of greatness. When SRV returned to Montreax he was greeted as a guitar god.

What I like about him is the "sound" and the heart. In my humble opinion, when it comes to rock guitar therre are many technically accomplished lick-wizards like van Halen and many in that category. But listening to them is like listening to muzak for hours on end. There is nothing new there at all. Stevie though had this tremendous sound about his works, richly harmonic which he was fastidious about. The man was completely engrossed in his music, he was a Zen Master when he played. People in that state transcent all genres, a true mark of greatness.

The guy must have had Polish genes there somewheres!

[truthist]

HealingTime wrote:

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Segovia had a great finger picking style, but sucked when it came to controlled feedback!
If you're a Texas Boy, then perhaps you should listen some more to home grown legend Stevie Ray Vaughn. Sure the Hendrix influence is there and to in-validate his reputation, the Jazz uber alles crowd at Montreux bood and jeered him throughout his first concert. WHich just goes to show that few people know how to slip out of their own particular genre, and perhaps that is also a mark of greatness. When SRV returned to Montreax he was greeted as a guitar god.
What I like about him is the "sound" and the heart. In my humble opinion, when it comes to rock guitar therre are many technically accomplished lick-wizards like van Halen and many in that category. But listening to them is like listening to muzak for hours on end. There is nothing new there at all. Stevie though had this tremendous sound about his works, richly harmonic which he was fastidious about. The man was completely engrossed in his music, he was a Zen Master when he played. People in that state transcent all genres, a true mark of greatness.
The guy must have had Polish genes there somewheres!

As someone else would say, this is probably the funniest reply I will read today.

Well, the day is still young so I will have to reply this way:
What if I am a TX girl??

And I mean it in a humble way.

P.S. Have you been at Montreux?
P.S.S. Thanks for your replies. Especially, the TX-friendly comments.

[truthist]

P.P.S. Ah, the tie-in with the polish monastery is definitely noteworthy.

Healing Time about Texas: "People in that state transcent all genres, a true mark of greatness."

(Worth repeating, especially, nowadays.)

[HealingTime]

truthist wrote:

<quoted text>As someone else would say, this is probably the funniest reply I will read today.
Well, the day is still young so I will have to reply this way:
What if I am a TX girl??
And I mean it in a humble way.
P.S. Have you been at Montreux?
P.S.S. Thanks for your replies. Especially, the TX-friendly comments.

HA! I meant TX Boy in a generic kind of way. Kinda like when we talk of mankind y'all know, right??

No sorry about that, TX person! I've said it before and I'll say it again, the female of the species are by far the greatest! Justifications are not needed!

And no I've not been to Montreaux, but sure would like to go sometime. But if you take out the Stevie Ray DVD of the Montreaux concert you'll see exactly what I mean. And the boy was on fire that day, big time, and the stupid xxxxxs were jeering him!!

Thanks for the compliment, these days I seem to get more hate mail so it's a nice change!

ANother one to consider is Led Zeps Jimmy Page, every song has a different sound and texture. Indicative of a fertile creativity.