Prof Musial - "Poklosie" repeats a historical lie

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An interview with a well-known historician, prof Bogdan Musial.

"Poklosie" - a film by Pasikowski shown for a few days at the cinemas in Poland touches an important subject of Polish-Jewish relations. Unfortunately, it distorts the relations, and tries to impose using every effort that apart from a few righteous, all the Poles are repulsive anti-Semites. Why they are permanently trying to persuade us to this lie?

- We have to separate the interest in the subject in Poland, Germany and the USA. The American determinants are totally different becase the Diaspora is very strong there. Many of Jews left Poland, their father, grandfathers were the victims of Holocaust. A big part of the Diaspora considers Poles as anti-Semites. Remember that the envinronment has strong influence on culture, the film industry and media and imposes its internal belief about the Polish anti-Semitism. Next, in Germany there is a harmful and a false blend "Polish nationalism - Polish anti-Semitism". On the top of that there is a lack of consciousness in Poland.

What do you mean?

- The reactions to the accusation of anti-Semitism should be measured. The most importan is to go into the reasons, which caused Polish-Jewish prejudice. Of course I don't claim that amongst Poles there weren't anti-Semites at all. There were. But was the Polish anti-Semitism stronger than German, French or American? Was it unique? I think that in Poland after 1989 the reviewing discussion about the anti-Semitism is aimed to draw pepole's attention away from communism crimes during the Polish People’s Republic. You can see this from the biographies of the people who impose the reviewing discussion. The people who were strongly connected with the communist system in Poland, then were involved in reviewing the Polish anti-Semitism. But it is the people who should review from anti-Semitism not the elites. The best example of such attitude is the Jedwabne case.

To which refers "Poklosie" ...

- Where a crime has been commited and this is a fact. But the same fact is that the book by Gross about Jedwabne is unreliable and distorts the history. The problem is that the so-called forces of progress in Poland consider the distorted history as a dogma. The people who denies this are called (by the so-called forces of progress in Poland ) freaks and nationalists. This distorted history is approved by such authories as Andrzej Wajda, who prises the Pasikowski's film. Unfortunately this is the way of thinking which harmonizes with the image of Poles in the Weastern Europe Countries.-> Through the Gross' glasses: greedy, primitive, murdering because of greediness, as well, jointly responsible for the Holocaust and the same anti-Semitic as Nazis. Not Germans, but Nazis! In Germany a documentary is made whose director expressed such judgement about Poles. I was dumbfounded when I heard this. So the image of a Pole as an anti-Semite is still well in the Weastern Europe Countries. Films such as "Poklosie" can only strengthen the image, but in mass-awareness this time. The people are to go tho the cinema. Pasikowski knew what was expected from a "progressive" film. If he wants to get an award and favourable review he has to do what suits the mainstream.
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Where are the truth searchers then? The film refers to the authentic events during the WWII. How can they the attitude of a small group announce as a norm? After all the majority of Poles behaved at least decently towards the Jews.

- This is the repeat of the Gross's fraud, who crossed off Germans from the Jedwabne crime. He didn't accept their eviden leadership perpetration of the crime. "Poklosie" where there are only a few righteous, repeats the Stalinist and communist way of thinking. The film is to prove that in Poland there is a few progressive and tollerant pepole - the readers of "Gazeta Wyborcza" and Tygodnik Powszechny". The rest of the Poles is a dangerous rabble. The communists also were convinced that they knew better. That's why they had to wipe out so many people because they weren't fitted for building the socialist society. This way of thinking is still present amongst the Polish "progressive peopole". They don't have the gentry background but Stalinist one. This is a typical behaviour which exists in post-communistic countries. In the Western Europe Countries similar treatment of the own nation wouldn't be possible. There is civil society. Someone who would be similarly disdainful of one’s own countrymen, would be publicly discredited, says a well-known historician, prof Bogdan Musial.

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http://niezalezna.pl/34816-nasz-wywiad-poklos...

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What else could anyone say about Polaks when they were caught extracting gold teeth out of dead Jewish corpses ?
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Come one Matrixko you polaks were even baptizing and molesting Jewish little boys.
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Martix wrote:
Good job. Martix. Keep it up. Thank you.

I keep waiting for a film that would depict jewish crimes against Polish people.

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Who would film it, Polaks ?
How about a day at Polak dentist instead ?
A film by your famous child molester Polanski.
Depicting how Polaks were pulling gold teeth during WW2.
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Polonus wrote:
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Good job. Martix. Keep it up. Thank you.
I keep waiting for a film that would depict jewish crimes against Polish people.
I'm afraid that at present an author of such film would be suspected of anti-Semites and burnt at the stake by the "progressive and tollerant" people.
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Pesky army wrote:
Who would film it, Polaks ?
How about a day at Polak dentist instead ?
A film by your famous child molester Polanski.
Depicting how Polaks were pulling gold teeth during WW2.
These gold teeth are an osesion with you. No wonder gold teeth are so popular among Russians.
Polanski is a jew. Mind you.

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Pesky army wrote:
Who would film it, Polaks ?
How about a day at Polak dentist instead ?
A film by your famous child molester Polanski.
Depicting how Polaks were pulling gold teeth during WW2.
Roman Poleski was a Jew like you are.

Semion Mogilevich was a Jew like you are.

Yes, yes, filthyJ ews like you will be filthy Jews.

It is the nature of the beast the Jew is like an animal of sorts.
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Martix wrote:
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I'm afraid that at present an author of such film would be suspected of anti-Semites and burnt at the stake by the "progressive and tollerant" people.
Sure thing. Jews are "populus a Deo electus", holy people, untouchable, and they had their hollocaust, we didn't, neither did the other nations.
American Indians and Australian aborigins also had their hollocaust but they weren't populus a Deo electus.
Sometimes I feel like puking when I ponder on it.

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Depicting how Polaks were pulling gold teeth during WW2.
I am sure Jew Abraham Gancwajch had first dibs on gold teeth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Gancwajc...

Interesting Jew Abraham Ganwajch lived a Lavish life while killing Jews.

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I guess Jew Abraham Ganwajch lived a lavish life by stealing gold teeth.

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I think Nazis gave Jew Abraham Gancwajch gold teeth for helping Nazis kill Jews.

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Jew Abraham Gancwajch took the gold teeth of Jews & smelted those gold teeth down to gold JEWlry.

Abraham Ganawajch put the JEW in JEWlry.

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Polonus wrote:
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Sure thing. Jews are "populus a Deo electus", holy people, untouchable, and they had their hollocaust, we didn't, neither did the other nations.
American Indians and Australian aborigins also had their hollocaust but they weren't populus a Deo electus.
Sometimes I feel like puking when I ponder on it.
So had your grandfather hs watch stolen from a dead Jew in a deathcamp he was working for?
We all know that Polish people could not have watches like lousy paupers they were. lol.

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Alexey25 wrote:
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So had your grandfather hs watch stolen from a dead Jew in a deathcamp he was working for?
We all know that Polish people could not have watches like lousy paupers they were. lol.
Yes, & your Cossack ancestors first fought with Nazi Germany & then ended up in Nazi German labor camps as slaves?

Which is why you love Germans as you are a typical Masochistic Moronic COCKsack urr Cossack.

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It is funny you now will use Jews against Poland now.

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Of course you will you are a Cossack & a moronic masochistic piece of garbage.

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Jew Lazar Kaganovich killed up to 12 million Ukrainians.

Jew Semion Mogilevich is behind the mass murder & sex slavery of millions of Ukrainians & Russians.

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No problem moronic massochistic Cossacks will side with Jews against Poland.

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Tatars enslave Cossacks & Tatars raid Poland.

Poland takes over Crimean Khanate / Kipchak Khanate land in Ukraine on the defensive.

You Cossack morons side with Tatars who enslaved you against Poland.

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Austria came in & ruled both Polish people & Ukrainians in Galicia.

Moronic Masochistic Ukrainian garbage sided with Austrians against Poles in the Ukrainian Nationalist movement.

Austrians created the Ukrainian Nationalist movement in the 18th century to divide Ukrainians & Poles so the Austrians could rule Galicia.

Of course moronic masochistic Ukrainians side with Austrians against Poland in the Ukrainian Nationalist movement rather than trying to resolve their difference Poles & Ukrainians had in order to overthrow opressive Austrian rule.

Nope, nope stupid Ukrainian Cossack idiots couldn't even do that they would rather side with Austrians their opressor rather than Poland who was their Liberator from Tatar slavery centuries ago.

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Of course Germans, Austrians, Russia, Nazi Germans & Soviets all murdered & opressed more Ukrainians than Polish people did.

That doesn't stop moronic masochistic Ukrainian Cossack idiots from siidng with & supporting Germans, Austrians, Russians, Germans or Soviets against Poland like these idiots always will.

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Your Cossacks are a stupid horde of garbage.

Nothing but the garbage Poland & Russia sent out to the Steppes of Ukraine to become Cossacks.

You Cossacks are like the Negroes of the Slavic world you stupid Cossack idiots.

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Why should I care what Austria did a century ago idiot?

Austrians I know are nice people unlike Polish crap.

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So had your grandfather hs watch stolen from a dead Jew in a deathcamp he was working for?
We all know that Polish people could not have watches like lousy paupers they were. lol.
Actually it is a real laugh about your Cossacks / Ukrainians.

When Poland came in to rescue your Cossack Ukrainians from Tatar slavery.

You Cossack idiots side with Tatars who enslave Cossacks against Poland who liberated Cossacks from slavery.

Which is true actually while Poland fought Tatars Poland actually freed thousands of Cossack slaves of Tatars.

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Now that Jew Lazar Kaganovich killed 4-12 million Ukrainian / Cossacks in the Holodomor.

Now that Jew Genrikh Yagoda's Gulag system was 1/3rd Ukrainian meaning millions of Ukrainians put into Gulags.

Now Jew Semion Mogilevich is behind the Russian mafia murdering & kidnapping Ukrainians.

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Now you stupid Ukrainian Cossacks will side with Jews against Poland?

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You Cossack idiots are the only Slavic people I would call retarded sub humans.

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Even the Jews ordinery Jews are not so anti Russian as Poles.

They at least don`t deny the fact that their hides were saved by Russians during 2ww.

What does Polish crap say?
Yea, it says that 600 000 of Russians shot themselves being drunk or that Russian soldiers were stealing Polish watches.

And we should like such Slavic bros?
Let them go to hell such bros!

I`d better make friends with Germans than with such crap.

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Alexey25 wrote:
Even the Jews ordinery Jews are not so anti Russian as Poles.
They at least don`t deny the fact that their hides were saved by Russians during 2ww.
What does Polish crap say?
Yea, it says that 600 000 of Russians shot themselves being drunk or that Russian soldiers were stealing Polish watches.
And we should like such Slavic bros?
Let them go to hell such bros!
I`d better make friends with Germans than with such crap.
You Cossacks are significantly more stupid & primitive than other Slavic people.

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It is funny as f*ck.

That now Cossacks / Ukrainians go after Tatars more than Jews & go after Polish people more than Jews.

During the 1600's Cossacks / Ukrainians go after Polish & Jews more while siding with Tatars.

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Now, wait Tatars enslaved Cossacks, Poland came in & Liberated Cossacks from Slavery & directly liberated Cossacks from Tatar slavery.

So you Cossacks side with Tatars against Polish people &Jews.

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Now, Jews are enslaving your Cossacks / Ukrainians.

Now Jews are your biggest opressor of Cossacks / Ukrainians.

So now you stupid Cossacks / Ukrainians side with Jews over Tatars or Poles.

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Am I missing something or are Cossacks a bunch of illogical masochistic retards?

You Cossacks have something wrong with you!

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Your Cossacks are the garbage degenerates & idiots Poland & Russia sent out to the Steppes of Ukraine as Cossacks.

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You Cossacks weren't wanted by Poland or Russia then &you still aren't wanted.

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Why don't your Cossacks leave Europe & go to Turkey or something.

You Cossacks will always side with your Non White opressors like Tatars or Jews against Poland or Russia.

So why don't you Cossack losers get out of Europe!

Your Cossacks are the undesirables of Poland & Russia

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Do Polaks have any fiends in Europe anyways?
Let`s see. Well, certainly Ukranians are not the case, nor Belorusians and Russians.
So Poles don`t have no friends on the eastern border.
Well, I wouldn`t say that Germans and Lithinuans are Polish friends either.
Czecks and Slovaks like Polaks even less than Russians. No wonder, they live to Poles much closer than Russians.
Hungerians? Well, I don`t know if this insane Madyer can speak on behalf of all Hungerians.

You have no real friends chimps.
No one likes you. lol.

Russians have at least Belorusians, eastern Ukranians and Armenians.

Russian social skills are better than Polish ones.

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Alexey25 wrote:
Do Polaks have any fiends in Europe anyways?
Let`s see. Well, certainly Ukranians are not the case, nor Belorusians and Russians.
So Poles don`t have no friends on the eastern border.
Well, I wouldn`t say that Germans and Lithinuans are Polish friends either.
Czecks and Slovaks like Polaks even less than Russians. No wonder, they live to Poles much closer than Russians.
Hungerians? Well, I don`t know if this insane Madyer can speak on behalf of all Hungerians.
You have no real friends chimps.
No one likes you. lol.
Russians have at least Belorusians, eastern Ukranians and Armenians.
Russian social skills are better than Polish ones.
Please your Cossack / Ukrainians are the ones with no friends.

While Cossack / Ukrainians love Russians the most.

Russians actually hate Cossack / Ukrainians the most. LOL.....

I mean Russians hate Ukrainians about 3-5 times more often than they hate Polish people according to statistical data collected.

Yet, Ukrainians love Russians probably 10 times more than Polish people do.

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Why are Cossacks such idiots?

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Actually Russians hate Jews about 3 - 4 times more than they hate Polish people according to statistical data.

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So, we see very well you well you side with Jews over Poland because you are a Cossack / Ukrainian not because of Russia.
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Alexey25 wrote:
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So had your grandfather hs watch stolen from a dead Jew in a deathcamp he was working for?
We all know that Polish people could not have watches like lousy paupers they were. lol.
Hey wait a minute Alexey! You are not suppose to hypocritically use Jewish propaganda against Poles when you Russians hate Jews yourselfs.

Hal GUARANTEED ME that Russians would NEVER EVER use Jewish propoganda against Poles!!!

Hal has said its IMPOSSIBLE that non-Jews would ever use Jewish propaganda against Poles.

Yeah just like that Russian ultranationalist "Hmmmm" would never use Jewish propaganda against Poles. LOL

What an ignoramus Hal is.

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