US witness report found on Stalin's K...

US witness report found on Stalin's Katyn massacre

There are 109 comments on the Bellingham Herald story from Jan 8, 2014, titled US witness report found on Stalin's Katyn massacre. In it, Bellingham Herald reports that:

This picture taken in Warsaw, Poland, on Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2014, shows a copy of the last page of what is believed the recently uncovered vital testimony made in 1945 in Paris by U.S. Lt.

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“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#1 Jan 8, 2014
Interesting. It took almost 70 years to find this extremely important eyewitness report that had been "filed among other unrelated World War II documents from the U.S. Embassy in Paris" = BURIED deep in a pile of miscellaneous papers that they knew no one would look sift through for decades.

"Another report that Van Vliet made a few days later in Washington is considered missing. This has fueled speculation that the U.S. government helped cover up Soviet responsibility for the massacre out of fear that saying the truth would anger Stalin, whom the Allies were counting on to help them defeat Germany and Japan in World War II."

"Fueled speculation that the US government helped cover up.."??
There was already an article where the US government admitted to covering it up!
We already read about the American POW's who were shown the corpses by the Nazis. These are well known facts so why is this even a story? Just because they found the original? That's nice but it doesn't provide any more proof than we already had.
Abe

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#2 Jan 9, 2014
Another Banderka.

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#3 Jan 9, 2014
That eyewitness didn`t see that those officers were killed by Soviets, all what he saw were nazis and corpses, so, as lawers say, it`s not a case.
The Iron Dicktator

Podgorica, Montenegro

#4 Jan 9, 2014
Alexey25 wrote:
That eyewitness didn`t see that those officers were killed by Soviets, all what he saw were nazis and corpses, so, as lawers say, it`s not a case.
Stop defending Murderer Stalin,you Brainwash Commie!

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#5 Jan 9, 2014
Alexey25 wrote:
That eyewitness didn`t see that those officers were killed by Soviets, all what he saw were nazis and corpses, so, as lawers say, it`s not a case.
I know. I wondered about that too. Just because the Nazis dug them up and told them "the Soviets did it", they were supposed to just believe it? Why?
The Iron Dicky

Podgorica, Montenegro

#6 Jan 10, 2014
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>I know. I wondered about that too. Just because the Nazis dug them up and told them "the Soviets did it", they were supposed to just believe it? Why?
21,768 murdered in Katyn massacre by the Soviet NKVD
Documentary.
Clear Dharma

Brighton, UK

#7 Jan 10, 2014
There has never been an admission by the USA that they knew about the Soviet murders of Polish officers and elites.

The USA should do the decent thing and come clean. The Americans were central in allowing the Communists to do whatever they wanted to make life easy for themselves. They collaborated with the Soviets in many murders, they were complicit in their schemes - and that is a dirty business that will eventually be revealed.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#8 Jan 10, 2014
Kim Jong Un for President 2016
Posted in the US News Forum

===

Who is the real dictator?

North Korea is no dictator of Fascism.
Dennis Rodman is just NK's friend.
North Korea is no hypocrisy of corruption.
Dennis Rodman went to a not corrupted nation for friendship.
North Korea is no Axis-of-Evil as Bush label, because it was only Bush dictatorship by using forced dictation to have massacred a few hundreds of thousands Iraqi in Iraq, but not Kim Jong Un.
What is the difference, if NK executes few, to the many so large ratio of victims slaughtered by Bush --and that is called the huge number difference.
North Korea is a nuclear nation as it possesses nuclear weapons already.

Are these true or not?
As they are, It is all about facts and what are true or not -- then, Ask if are true or not, see for yourself = These are just straight simple facts as simple as that, which needs no rocket-scientist type of criteria to get to know.

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#9 Jan 10, 2014
And the Russians were sitting in judgement on the Nazi's at Neuremburg

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#10 Jan 11, 2014
Clear Dharma wrote:
There has never been an admission by the USA that they knew about the Soviet murders of Polish officers and elites.
The USA should do the decent thing and come clean. The Americans were central in allowing the Communists to do whatever they wanted to make life easy for themselves. They collaborated with the Soviets in many murders, they were complicit in their schemes - and that is a dirty business that will eventually be revealed.
They did. I'll find the article for you.

The government did help cover it up during the war but they have a great excuse. Not sure why they continued to cover it up during the cold war though.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#11 Jan 11, 2014
*"They did" meaning they did admit they knew about Smolensk & covered it up.
Clear Dharma

Swansea, UK

#12 Jan 11, 2014
-sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>They did. I'll find the article for you.
The government did help cover it up during the war but they have a great excuse. Not sure why they continued to cover it up during the cold war though.
I would be most interested to see that piece of evidence. For my part I was not aware of an American admission.

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#13 Jan 11, 2014
Memos Show US Helped Katyn Cover-up

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TGGV1...
see post 3 for the link (CBS news)

Declassified documents prove U.S. did help cover up 1940 Katyn massacre
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/poland/TJSPM...

Katyn massacre: Betrayed by Allies
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/poland/T6DIH...

“In the cockles of weirdness”

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#14 Jan 11, 2014
By "admission" I don't mean they announced it to the press. They declassified documents related to it and released them to the public, documents that proved we knew about the killings and helped cover it up.

But everyone seemed to know that already. The BBC had that documentary about WW2 and they talked about how the US covered it up and why. Roosevelt even had one of his government friends 'reassigned' because he insisted on pushing the issue.
Oliver Cromwell

Newtownabbey, UK

#15 Jan 11, 2014
bohart wrote:
And the Russians were sitting in judgement on the Nazi's at Neuremburg
With twenty six million dead Soviet people dead that's the least that could happen,for the Nazi high command I wouldn't have bothered with a trial.
Oliver Cromwell Fascist

Podgorica, Montenegro

#16 Jan 11, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> With twenty six million dead Soviet people dead that's the least that could happen,for the Nazi high command I wouldn't have bothered with a trial.
Stalin and his Commies killed more people in USSR then Germans did.

In Baltics,the Germans were seen as Liberators.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#17 Jan 11, 2014
Oliver Cromwell Fascist wrote:
<quoted text>Stalin and his Commies killed more people in USSR then Germans did.
In Baltics,the Germans were seen as Liberators.
$#%====#@
How come you don't mention the many of so large ratio of victims slaughtered by Bush?
You talk about the lives killed in Eastern Europe (as if from Bolshevik communism) with no saying of lives killed by Nazis.
Germans were no Liberators to Baltics because Nazi-Germany would have taken all Baltic states if there was no Bolshevik communism by forming Soviet Union.
Bolshevik communism was necessary to make Europe to be free nowadays.
Hitler-Germany had killed more lives than anything else, for it costed so many millions of Russian and Baltic lives as a result of Hitler waging war.
Without Soviet Union, Europe is only one country being Nazi-Germany, so that people have no original countries of their own anymore, like Latvia, Sweden, Italy, etc.
Then these days, European people are not free people, that Hitler would have taken them under his oppressing rules to slaughter a lot more, that they would have no freedom at all as of this time.
Only through Bolshevik communism, Soviet Union was able to liberate Europe to remain as free countries in Europe.
In other words, Bolshevik communism-Soviet Union gave freedom to Europe, but not Germany.
Bolshevik communism had saved and liberated Europe to be free because of Hitler.
The Iron Dicky

Podgorica, Montenegro

#18 Jan 12, 2014
JBH wrote:
<quoted text>
$#%====#@
How come you don't mention the many of so large ratio of victims slaughtered by Bush?
You talk about the lives killed in Eastern Europe (as if from Bolshevik communism) with no saying of lives killed by Nazis.
Germans were no Liberators to Baltics because Nazi-Germany would have taken all Baltic states if there was no Bolshevik communism by forming Soviet Union.
Bolshevik communism was necessary to make Europe to be free nowadays.
Hitler-Germany had killed more lives than anything else, for it costed so many millions of Russian and Baltic lives as a result of Hitler waging war.
Without Soviet Union, Europe is only one country being Nazi-Germany, so that people have no original countries of their own anymore, like Latvia, Sweden, Italy, etc.
Then these days, European people are not free people, that Hitler would have taken them under his oppressing rules to slaughter a lot more, that they would have no freedom at all as of this time.
Only through Bolshevik communism, Soviet Union was able to liberate Europe to remain as free countries in Europe.
In other words, Bolshevik communism-Soviet Union gave freedom to Europe, but not Germany.
Bolshevik communism had saved and liberated Europe to be free because of Hitler.
What is wrong with you ?
It is Jews who want One World Governmant and to destroy Nationalism of every Ethnic group of people.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#19 Jan 12, 2014
The Iron Dicky wrote:
<quoted text>What is wrong with you ?
It is Jews who want One World Governmant and to destroy Nationalism of every Ethnic group of people.
$%^&*======#%
Nor did it say that Jews were not dirty people by using ticks a lot, still in these days around the world.
But doing holocaust was too insane.
Most importantly, from the view of having the freedom for Europe and countries remaining as their own countries, of course Hitler Germany needed to be defeated.
You still do not understand what was so wrong of Hitler in the ideas of Nazism and wanting to take Europe and to do one country for is own as Nazi-Germany.
AND by conducting repression to have aggression war, to further suppress many with tyranny, to do the worst, to have more wars with the rest if the world, this would be unacceptable.
Never there was saying of Jews of any good from their acts and impression.
That Hitler could not do one single country in Europe as Hitler-Germany was all to it, even the issue of Jew was put in, as examining aspects and factors.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#20 Jan 12, 2014
The Iron Dicky wrote:
<quoted text>What is wrong with you ?
It is Jews who want One World Governmant and to destroy Nationalism of every Ethnic group of people.

---%%^&*======#%

In spite of Jews were dirty people by using tricks a lot, still in these days around the world, Hitler's evil was greater than anything else.

Never there was saying of Jews of any good from their filthy acts and despicable doing

But doing holocaust was too insane.

Hitler just could not do one single country in Europe as Hitler-Germany by examining aspects and factors of the issue of ugly Jews as evils as well .
Between two evils of Hitler and Jews, Hitler was the bigger EVIL.

AND by conducting repression to have aggression war, to further suppress many with tyranny, to do the worst, to have more wars with the rest of the world, this would be unacceptable.

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