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babyJesus

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#1 May 5, 2013
Dear Elias Ibarra,
I need a simple answer from you for this simple
question:
.
If you will to choose:
.
Manalo or Jesus Christ?
.
Choose only one. The one you will not choose is fake.
.
If you ignored this question, your INC is a real cult.
Please dont make a statement too long, just choose from the two. No "both" answer. If u answered with
many sentences, your INC is a real cult.
nyg

Mississauga, Canada

#2 May 5, 2013
And no alluding to blaming Catholics and Protestants for everything. That'll probably happen anyways
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#3 May 5, 2013
Elias is HIDING!!!

He contact his INCM Central Legions for the Answer.

If he choose Jesus Christ what happens to Felix.
He will become a Fallen Angel.

If He choose Felix it is not a safe answer.

Elias will blame Catholics and Protestant to cover every post on this thread or Elias will not answer...

beep... beep....
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#4 May 6, 2013
babyJesus wrote:
Dear Elias Ibarra,
I need a simple answer from you for this simple
question:
.
If you will to choose:
.
Manalo or Jesus Christ?
.
Choose only one. The one you will not choose is fake.
.
If you ignored this question, your INC is a real cult.
Please dont make a statement too long, just choose from the two. No "both" answer. If u answered with
many sentences, your INC is a real cult.
Baby She-male Goat,

Brother Felix Y. Manalo is the messenger of God in these last days to proselytize the "other sheep" (Church of Christ)or Iglesia ni Crsito!!! The messenger or angel has the blessings of both God and Christ because the latter two are co-owners of the Church of Christ!!!

You cannot dictate your will upon me!!! For I am following the will of God and not of man!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#5 May 6, 2013
israelNOTpinas wrote:
Elias is HIDING!!!
He contact his INCM Central Legions for the Answer.
If he choose Jesus Christ what happens to Felix.
He will become a Fallen Angel.
If He choose Felix it is not a safe answer.
Elias will blame Catholics and Protestant to cover every post on this thread or Elias will not answer...
beep... beep....
IsraelNOTpinas,

God, Christ, and Brother Felix Y. Manalo have linkage!!! Brother Felix Y. Manalo is their servant from the islands of the sea in the Far East!!! He is sent as an instrument to bring God's righteousness to the "north" (Protestantism) and "south" (Catholicism)!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#6 May 6, 2013
That Brother Felix Y. Manalo succeeded in the task assigned to him by God is proven by the following statement:

A noted Filipino writer once remarked:

"Even those who deplore the Iglesia...admit that it's the one church in the Philippines that communicates with the poor and that has the power to reform lives. The stories of drunks who gave up the bottle, of gamblers who forsook the table, of thugs who turned into men of peace when they became a kapatid (brethren) are not apocryphal. In the Iglesia, and perhaps only in the Iglesia, do conversions in the fullest sense of the word still occur in our day."

Reference:(Nick Joaquin, 1963.)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#7 May 6, 2013
nyg wrote:
And no alluding to blaming Catholics and Protestants for everything. That'll probably happen anyways
Nyg,

Why not??? The truth has still to come out even if you dress it with falsities!!! The works of the spurious religions versus the works of God through His last messenger:

“The INC does have discipline and its leaders do keep themselves very low-key, something that we wish our own Catholic bishops would learn to do…”

Reference: Paredes, Ducky. Malaya, Feb. 19, 2003.

“In practice, both Catholics and Protestants neglect poor of our land. The group that has significantly moved into this vacuum is the Iglesia ni Cristo…

By passing the enigma of how many members they really have, we must acknowledge that the Iglesia ni Cristo provides much that the common tao needs; a sense of belonging, of community, of being part or a successful enterprise”

Reference: A. Leonard Tuggy & Ralph Toliver. Seeing the church in the Philippines, 1972, p.140.

“How is it that the INC has so many palatial-churches and we see them all over the country, while ours… well, sometimes we can't even tell UCCP churches from dilapidated, wooden residential houses.”

"Worse, when we try to find models for church growth, models for church management, models for church planning, we could hardly look at our own, but turn our eyes elsewhere--to the INC."

"Perhaps, there is something about the INC,... that we are missing. Could it be that their leaders and more important, their members believe--and more than just believing, live out their faith?"

Reference: Bodegon, Joel L. The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the Role of Laity, p.116)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#8 May 6, 2013
“In terms of buildings, there can be little doubt that the magnificent Iglesia Ni Cristo churches reflect and in most cases surpass, the grandeur of the Roman Cathedrals in the Philippines.”

Reference:(Dynamic Religious Movements, p. 314)

The story of Brother Felix Y. Manalo and the Iglesia ni Cristo he proselytized are worth emulating!!! No one does it much, much better but the Iglesia ni Cristo proselytized by Brother Felix Y. Manalo!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#9 May 6, 2013
Philippine landscape changed because of the Iglesia ni Cristo:

"For centuries every Philippine city and town has been dominated by its Roman Catholic cathedrals built and drafted labor on donated ground. But many of these are now old and dilapidated. Iglesia ni Cristo cathedral chapels now rival these ancient buildings in size and surpass them in beauty. Iglesia members still number only a minority of the population, but their buildings dominate many sky lines.”

Reference:(Iglesia ni Cristo: A Study In Independent Church Dynamics, p. 180)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#10 May 6, 2013
“One of the reasons the Iglesia ni Cristo has caught the attention of so many people is the rapid rise all over the archipelago of its beautiful and grand houses of worship. Characterized by simple, elegant lines and spires seemingly reaching for the heavens, these structures manifest the Church’s dedication to building edifices that would serve to bring glory to God. The Iglesia ni Cristo has vigorously pursued its construction program. So far, it has constructed close to 5000 houses of worship all over the country, with close to 200 others abroad. Because of their number and distinct architectural style, these houses of worship have dramatically changed the nation’s landscape…”

Reference:(The Iglesia ni Cristo in the 20th Century, Philippine Free Press: 1999-2000 The Philippine Century, p. 214)

The 5,000 chapels were from long ago!!! More than a thousand were already added from 2001 to 2013!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#11 May 6, 2013
“….churches constructed by the Iglesia ni Cristo are always expensive and resplendent and usually appear impressive and overpowering even to the nonbeliever.”

Reference:(The Iglesia Ni Cristo , 1914-2000: From Obscure Philippine Faith to Global Belief System, Bijdragen, p. 581)

The purpose is to glorify God, the Creator, who sent His beloved Son, Jesus Christ, in order to purchase the Church which He loved:


"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." [Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation]

"Ingatan ninyo kung gayon ang inyong mga sarili at ang buong kawan na rito'y hinirang kayo ng Espiritu Santo na mga katiwala, upang pakanin ang iglesia ni Cristo na binili niya ng kaniyang dugo."

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#12 May 6, 2013
“…a Japanese architect was driving in Tondo and saw the Iglesia church there. It's like a jewel sparkling in the sun.…I have traveled to many places, but I have not seen anything like it.”

Reference:(“A signature in the sky,” Philippine Free Press, p.15)

No wonder that the Iglesia ni Cristo is well-accepted in Japan!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#13 May 6, 2013
Were there elections in 2011 and 2012??? A BIG NO!!! Yet, the Iglesia ni Cristo built hundreds of chapels all over the world during these years!!! Here are some as reported for the months of September-December 2012:

1. In the Nueva Era Resettlement Project of the Iglesia ni Cristo in Veruela, Agusan del Sur, three were decicated to God.
2. Barotac Nuevo, Iloilo South.
3. Libertad, Romblon.
4. Rajal, Pangasinan East.
5. Acharon, Cotabato South.
6. Mahayahay, Misamis Occidental.
7. Liskeb, Bacnotan, La Union.
8. Pila, Laguna.
9. Bataraza, Palawan South.
10. Tiposu, Urdaneta City, Pangasinan East.
11. Bebeladan, El Nido, Palawan.
12. San Alejandro, Sto. Domingo, Nueva Ecija South and
13. Payatas, Metro Manila Central.
14. Locale of Mararigue, San Manuel, Isabela West.
15. Locale of San Isidro, Rosario, Batangas.
16. Locale of Pinaod, Bulacan North.
17. Locale of Alamada, Maguindanao.
18. Locale of Mulanay, Quezon South.
19. Locale of Canda, Quezon West.
20. Locale of Sipit, Butuan, Agusan del Sur.
21. Locale of Borlan, Zamboanga Central.
22. Locale of Longa-og, Sto. Tomas, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
23. Locale of Inaban, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
24. Locale of Malonoy, Dau, Ecclesiastical District of Capiz.
25. Locale of Boalan, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
26. Locale of Tuao, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
27. Locale of Paniqui, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
28. Locale of Andres Bonifacio, Llaneras, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Ecija North.
29. Locale of Kabatuhan, Labo, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Norte.
30. Locale of Natividad, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan.
31. Locale of Taculing, Bacolod City, Ecclesiastical District of Negros Occidental.
32. Locale of Mayngaway, San Andres, Ecclesiastical District of Catanduanes.
33. Locale of Carigara, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
34. Locale of Isabel, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte West.
35. Locale of Real, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon North.
36. Locale of Jolo, Sulu, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
37. Locale of Tenan, Ipil, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
38. Locale of Washington D.C., Ecclesiastical District of Northeastern Seaboard.
39. Locale of Miami, Florida, Ecclesiastical District of Southeastern Seaboard.
40. Locale of Bamban, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
41. Locale of Tangkaran, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
42. Locale of Ondoy, Ibajay, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
43. Locale of Veruela, Ecclesiastical District of Agusan del Sur.
44. Locale of Pili, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
45. Locale of Yumbing, Camiguin, Ecclesiastical District of Misamis Oriental.
46. Locale of San Sebastian, San Luis, Ecclesiastical District of Pampanga.
47. Locale of Dolores, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
48. Locale of Pinaod, San Ildefonso, Ecclesiastical District of Bulacan North.
49. Locale of Lipa City, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas (Enlarged and renovated to accomodate new converts).
50. Locale of Bascaran, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#14 May 6, 2013
With or without election, the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) would continue to bring glory to the Almighty God by building and buying grandiose and beautiful chapels!!! For the first quarter of 2013, more than 30 were already dedicated to God:

1. Locale of San Francisco, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon South.
2. Locale of San Jose, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato Southeast.
3. Locale of Gulod, Calatagan, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas.
4. Locale of Aguila, Ecclesiastical District of Antique.
5. Locale of Ajuy, Ecclesiastical District of Iloilo North.
6. Locale of Hinobaan, Ecclesiastical District of Negros del Sur.
7. Locale of Lipa City, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas.
8. Locale of Jomalig, Jomalig Island, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon North.
9. Locale of Talagutong, Don Marcelino, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Sur.
10. Locale of Pili, San Marcelino, Ecclesiastical District of Zambales South.
11. Locale of Camiling, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
12. Locale of Sugcong, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.
13. Locale of Agoo, Ecclesiastical District of La Union.
14. Locale of Halimutoc, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
15. Locale of Bagong Silang, Ilagan, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela West.
16. Locale of Salvacion, Guimaras, Ecclesiastical District of Iloilo South.
17. Locale of Sta, Ana, Ecclesiastical District of Agusan del Norte.
18. Locale of Sablayan, Ecclesiastical District of Mindoro Occidental.
19. Locale of Manticao, Ecclesiastical District of Misamis Oriental.
20. Locale of Catbalogan, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.
21. Locale of San Juan, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
22. Locale of Cabayawasan, Mangatarem, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.
23. Locale of Macrohon, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
24. Locale of Ramon, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela South.
25. Locale of Motiong, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.
26. Locale of Bombon, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
27. Locale of San Isidro, Tagum City, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
28. Locale of Libacao, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
29. Locale of Magallanes, Ecclesiastical District of Sorsogon.
30. Locale of Talus, Malungon, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato South.
31. Locale of Pasay, Ecclesiastical District of Metro Manila South .

Do the spurious "Born-again" Protestant cults have what we have??? A BIG NO!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#16 May 6, 2013
“In any provincial landscape, the most visible landmark is inevitably the towering spires of the Iglesia ni Cristo church.”

Reference:(The INC Now, Philippine Panorama, p. 30)

Even in remote mountain villages, the presence of the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels are sights to behold!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#17 May 6, 2013
It is more than obvious that Ileus and INC choose the rapist Manalo over Jesus. Let's not forget....INM has claimed Jesus to be a liar.
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#18 May 7, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Baby She-male Goat,
Brother Felix Y. Manalo is the messenger of God in these last days to proselytize the "other sheep" (Church of Christ)or Iglesia ni Crsito!!! The messenger or angel has the blessings of both God and Christ because the latter two are co-owners of the Church of Christ!!!

You cannot dictate your will upon me!!! For I am following the will of God and not of man!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Co-owners? ok your Cult is indeed a Business Venture.
you collect Thank offering going to
INC Central treasury straight to Manalo's Family Pocket...

Where is God right now?

Where is Jesus Christ right now?

and where is your "SUGO" Felix Manalo right now?

The will of God?

is Bloc-voting the will of God? How?
another unity, one mind and harmony verse interpreted by your cult ministers.

Enough of your Blasphemy!!!
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#19 May 7, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
“In any provincial landscape, the most visible landmark is inevitably the towering spires of the Iglesia ni Cristo church.”
Reference:(The INC Now, Philippine Panorama, p. 30)
Even in remote mountain villages, the presence of the Iglesia ni Cristo chapels are sights to behold!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ok!!!

Indeed The AYALA Landmark Mall
is the True Shopping Mall because they bear the Landmark name...

Brainwashed Clown!!!
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#20 May 7, 2013
"Do the spurious "Born-again" Protestant cults have what we have??? A BIG NO!!!"

Actually, they have a LOT more LOL

I have seen maybe 5 INC churches that appear to be grand in their own right...still no comparison to Catholic and many Protestant Churches. Other than that, their structure is a bigger face (which really is not so grand) that hides a plain, mediocre building behind it. Nothing grandoise or beautiful about that.

And you talk about empty pews in Catholic and Protestant Churches? Just ONE Sunday mass around the world will surpass every single Thursday and Sunday INM worship for an entire year around the world.

I love to say this....INM is INSIGNIFICANT
WMD

Minto, Australia

#21 May 7, 2013
Very obvious you are not following the will of God but following your own. Your constant bragging about your religion is actually all about pride. Proud of being what! Too much pride obviously you are following your evil thoughts not of God.

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