The Beautiful and Grandiose Chapels of Iglesia ni Cristo! (Google Streetview)

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nyg

Toronto, Canada

#1 Apr 14, 2013
SOme examples of the so called beautiful and grandiose chapels of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church without Christ) as per Elias Ibarra. Note: link to Guam locales on the directory don't work!

Locale Directory: http://www.iglesianicristo.ws/congregation/Wo...

Barcelona, Spain
http://goo.gl/maps/5Xmho

Hamburg Germany
http://goo.gl/maps/dvtJE

Miami USA
http://goo.gl/maps/LylYy

Amsterdam, Netherlands
http://goo.gl/maps/7oG8S

London, England
http://goo.gl/maps/M1zBF

Paris, France
http://goo.gl/maps/Z7eiD

Cabramatta, Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/TEMMA
(they use the high school gym!)
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#2 Apr 14, 2013
And now some of the the beautiful and grandiose Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Churches.

Barcelona, Spain
Sangrada Familia http://goo.gl/maps/92bIJ
Temple del Tibidabo http://goo.gl/maps/ml37P

Rome, Italy
St. Peters - http://goo.gl/maps/4gcs7

London, England
Westminster Abbey - http://goo.gl/maps/EuZRR

Paris France
Le Pantheon - http://goo.gl/maps/Mll2m

Belgrade, Serbia
Temple of Saint Sava - http://goo.gl/maps/YxFCC
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#3 Apr 14, 2013
Probably some of those are people's homes or rented halls...I dont see signs though.

As you know, in Pasugo and on INCTV, they only show their best. Never will they show these. They just tell people how big and beautiful they are and how people are joining in droves. Their member dont know the truth and if they do, they will not question the lies.
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#4 Apr 14, 2013
Yeah I was keying in the addresses from www.igelsianicristo.ws , many of them rented halls, homes and rooms in apartments.

They aren't even designated to be 'places of worship' by the respective cities they are in if this is the case. INCTV and Pasugo lying out of their asses yet again!
nyg

Richmond Hill, Canada

#5 Apr 15, 2013
Elias where art thou....probably glazing over this thread and ignoring lol
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#6 Apr 15, 2013
Eliar, I see you.
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#7 Apr 15, 2013
Winnipeg, Canada
http://goo.gl/maps/VfdE6

Montreal, Canada - Someone's House
http://goo.gl/maps/sH5eE

Venice, Italy - A townhouse unit
http://goo.gl/maps/Ina7X

Madrid, Spain
http://goo.gl/maps/lmwLA
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#8 Apr 15, 2013
Elias, explain your blatant lies about INC opening these large and beautiful chapels. The one in Montreal, Canada is a house in the suburbs. Do the Manalo clan need a hideout where they can get French-Canadian poutine?
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#10 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
SOme examples of the so called beautiful and grandiose chapels of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church without Christ) as per Elias Ibarra. Note: link to Guam locales on the directory don't work!
Locale Directory: http://www.iglesianicristo.ws/congregation/Wo...
Barcelona, Spain
http://goo.gl/maps/5Xmho
Hamburg Germany
http://goo.gl/maps/dvtJE
Miami USA
http://goo.gl/maps/LylYy
Amsterdam, Netherlands
http://goo.gl/maps/7oG8S
London, England
http://goo.gl/maps/M1zBF
Paris, France
http://goo.gl/maps/Z7eiD
Cabramatta, Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/TEMMA
(they use the high school gym!)
Nyg,

You have to remember that these chapels or churches were once owned by the Catholic and Protestant cults!!! They were selling and we are buying!!! They are in "Great Religious Recession" and were and are putting "For Sale" signs!!! And the buying true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) paid these all in cash!!! While the spurious religions could not pay their heating and electricity bills:

"The first decade of the 21st century is characterized by a "Great Religious Recession". Making matters worse, the economic recession in 2007 "did not drive people to religion; instead, it drove religion farther into irrelevance." (p. 82)

"In the United States for example, the Willow Creek Community Church---one of America's famous megachurches---"has suffered membership stagnation and a lack of enthusiasm among the faithful".(Ibid. p.73.)

"Even the Catholic Church has barely maintained its share of the population, mostly because immigrant Catholics offset the massive loss of U.S.-born members".(Ibid. p.20)
Reference:(Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of New Spiritual Awakening, pp. 82, 73, 20.)

An Italian weekly magazine, Sette, which boasts of a circulation reaching 483,000, vivvidly illustrated this rapid decline in Catholic members' enthusiasm in their religion. In an article written by Cesare Fiume in its April 5, 2012 issue, the publication made this observation:

"The number of Catholic marriages and that of priests and nuns are lessened (beaten). To bring religion to the members they must go to the malls ...Here is the 'spiritual X-ray' of Italy. The church was reopened Sunday for Palm Sunday, after months of closure. It was closed from Christmas and remained so until the day before yesterday--unless for some funeral host--due to lack of offerings. The alms were no longer enough to pay the bills for electricity and heating, so the pastor has barred the door ..."

The author likened the Catholic Church to a "candle that is consumed at the base," lamenting that the churches (are) empty, no more odor of frankincense ..." The magnitude of this problem is underscored by the fact that Italy is the seat of Catholicism---yet the "spiritual recession" among her adherents there is strikingly evident. This general atrophy in people's zeal for God is precisely the fulfillment of Christ's prophecy that in these last days, the love of many will grow cold.

Reference: Cesare Fiume. Sette. April 5, 2012 issue.

WATCH OUT FOR THE COMING "COLOSSAL RACKETS" OF THE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! DRIVE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR HOMES!!!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!!! PEASANTS AND PROFESSIONALS UNITE!!! SMASH TO IGNOMINY AND DEFEAT THE EVILS OF THESE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAIN!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#11 Apr 19, 2013
Ozzy wrote:
Probably some of those are people's homes or rented halls...I dont see signs though.
As you know, in Pasugo and on INCTV, they only show their best. Never will they show these. They just tell people how big and beautiful they are and how people are joining in droves. Their member dont know the truth and if they do, they will not question the lies.
Ozzy,

There is a reason why you can't find pictures of our grandiose and beatiful chapels and it is your low I.Q.!!! Here are 333 pages, as of today, showing pictures of our grandiose and beautiful chapels in the Philippuines and all over the world:

Iglesia ni Cristo (INC)- Page 155 - SkyscraperCity
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...
Is there any other locale or chapel within this same vantage point aside from the
Cebu City locale ... Opo. malawak po sinasakupan ng cebu city. yang picture na
anjan ay sakop nya talaga.... INC church in Baguio City is the most beautiful for
me ... Iglesia Ni Cristo Lokal ng Makiling,Laguna (Calamba City)...

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#12 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
Yeah I was keying in the addresses from www.igelsianicristo.ws , many of them rented halls, homes and rooms in apartments.
They aren't even designated to be 'places of worship' by the respective cities they are in if this is the case. INCTV and Pasugo lying out of their asses yet again!
Nyg,
We have rented halls whenever the Iglesia ni Cristo starts as a group worship service or as an extension in a certain place!!! Take note that it is rented and not a landgrabbed property as what were done by Roman Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants:

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference:(The Vatican Billions, p.21)

Why did I include the Orthodox and Protestant cults in being accused as landgrabbers??? It is because the Roman Catholic is the biblical "Great Harlot" and has become the "Mother of Harlots"!!!

The Roman Catholic Church therefore has "Daughter Harlots"!!! Who are the offsprings of the prophesied great harlot in Revelation 17? In the book, Religion in the United States, author Benson Y. Landis writes:

"The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States is one of the eighteen independent religious bodies that grew out of the Church of England ... The principal characteristics of the Protestant Episcopal Church have thus been derived from the Church of England, which in 1534, after a long process of separation, became independent of the Roman Catholic Church ... " (p. 60)
Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church gave birth to other churches. From her sprung in 1534 the Church of England, which bore 18 independent religious bodies that later brought forth the tens of thousands of Protestant sects and denominations that are in the world today.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#13 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
Elias, explain your blatant lies about INC opening these large and beautiful chapels. The one in Montreal, Canada is a house in the suburbs. Do the Manalo clan need a hideout where they can get French-Canadian poutine?
Nyg,

I never said large but "beautiful and grandiose"!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!! But we do have thousands of large chapels:

Iglesia ni Cristo (INC)- Page 155 - SkyscraperCity
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...
Is there any other locale or chapel within this same vantage point aside from the
Cebu City locale ... Opo. malawak po sinasakupan ng cebu city. yang picture na
anjan ay sakop nya talaga.... INC church in Baguio City is the most beautiful for
me ... Iglesia Ni Cristo Lokal ng Makiling,Laguna (Calamba City)...

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#14 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
And now some of the the beautiful and grandiose Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Churches.
Barcelona, Spain
Sangrada Familia http://goo.gl/maps/92bIJ
Temple del Tibidabo http://goo.gl/maps/ml37P
Rome, Italy
St. Peters - http://goo.gl/maps/4gcs7
London, England
Westminster Abbey - http://goo.gl/maps/EuZRR
Paris France
Le Pantheon - http://goo.gl/maps/Mll2m
Belgrade, Serbia
Temple of Saint Sava - http://goo.gl/maps/YxFCC
Nyg,

All of these Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels that you mentioned above are sitting on landgrabbed properties!!! The original landgrabber is the Roman Catholic Church and these properties were later taken over either by the Orthodox and Protestant cults during the series of schisms that overtook the Roman Catholic Church!!!

Even in the Philippines when the Philippine Independent Church under Bishop Gregorio Aglipay broke away from the Catholic Church, the splinter group was able to gain properties from the "Mother Harlot"!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#15 Apr 19, 2013
What has happened to most of Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels which sit on landgrabbed properties??? These became covered with forests of banyan trees, mosses, ferns, and lichens!!! Vampire bats and the swallows of Capistrano reside in their crevices, while underground, are to be found rats and roaches feeding on the eyes of the graven inages which made these useless scarecrows cross-eyed!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
nyg

Richmond Hill, Canada

#17 Apr 19, 2013
Eliar, you chapels are being built with money stolen from your members. The same with the chapels you rent and buy. That 15% stolen from your members every payday is what funds the expansion.

I've seen the skyscraper thread before. Unimpressed. The nicest inc chapels are the ones that were bought from others with stolen money.

I have my bachelor's in architecture. There is no comparison. If you don't appreciate the work of gaudi and the sangrada familia shut the hell up about beautiful and grandiose churches lol
nyg

Canada

#18 Apr 19, 2013
You mean these ones, the ones that are the exact opposite of what you describe? For example.

Cathedral Notre Dame, France http://goo.gl/maps/SF2oB
Notre Dame basilica, Canada http://goo.gl/maps/L2HZD
Se Cathedral, India http://goo.gl/maps/WLcIk
Leon Cathedral, Spain http://goo.gl/maps/6lx4Q

Where are the bats, forest cover, and moss here lol

Are there any INC chapels designated as UNESCO world heritage sites? Ones with high architectural merit, internationally recognized and actually designed by a bright, architect that is a member of the INC himself or herself?

The answer is no! lol
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
What has happened to most of Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels which sit on landgrabbed properties??? These became covered with forests of banyan trees, mosses, ferns, and lichens!!! Vampire bats and the swallows of Capistrano reside in their crevices, while underground, are to be found rats and roaches feeding on the eyes of the graven inages which made these useless scarecrows cross-eyed!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
nyg

Richmond Hill, Canada

#19 Apr 19, 2013
The central temple was designed by Juan Napkil and Carols Villanueva. Architects that are NOT members of the INC.

Philippine arena is designed by non member US based firm populous.

Employing the services of people you think are going to hell. INC has no problem selling out for business interests!
nyg

Canada

#20 Apr 19, 2013
Here are some more. Check out that forest cover, moss and bats!

St. Marks Bascilica, Venice - http://goo.gl/maps/KrV1d

Florence Cathedral, Florence
http://goo.gl/maps/UqR7O
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#21 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
You mean these ones, the ones that are the exact opposite of what you describe? For example.
Cathedral Notre Dame, France http://goo.gl/maps/SF2oB
Notre Dame basilica, Canada http://goo.gl/maps/L2HZD
Se Cathedral, India http://goo.gl/maps/WLcIk
Leon Cathedral, Spain http://goo.gl/maps/6lx4Q
Where are the bats, forest cover, and moss here lol
Are there any INC chapels designated as UNESCO world heritage sites? Ones with high architectural merit, internationally recognized and actually designed by a bright, architect that is a member of the INC himself or herself?
The answer is no! lol
<quoted text>
Nyg,

Yes, almost all of these old Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels are sitting on landgrabbed properties and a lot of these too were built through forced labor!!!

The Vatican is itself a landgrabbed property based on history!!! The popes of the Roman Catholic Church forged or fabricated documents to retain old stolen properties and landgrabbed some new ones!!! The so-called "Donation of Constantine" is one because a Roman Catholic pope was fearful that Charlemagne might turn his back on the Catholic Church!!! The pope made a move to prevent this from taking place:

"Pope Hadrian I in A.D. 774 presented him with a copy of the Donation of Constantine. This was reputed to be the grant by Constantine of immense possessions and vast territories to the Church. It was another papal forgery. Whereas the letter from Peter had been a forgery by Pope Stephen, the Donation of Costantine was one by Pope Hadrian I.

"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."

Reference:(Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.

The document enabled the Church to wrangle concessions from temporal rulers during the Middle Ages until it was exposed as a forgery by three scholars who:

"Succeeded, more than any others had done, in exploiting the myth on historical grounds, proving without doubt that the fact of the Donation, no less than the document, was fraudulent invention. They were Reginal Pecock, Bishop of Chichester, Cardinal Cusa, and above all Lorenzo Valla, who proved that the popes had no right whatsoever over any land in Europe and had not even the right to possess the States of the Church in Italy or in Rome itself." (Ibid. p.51)

Were the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy put to shame by this discovery? Not at all and this is what is written:

"When the full potentialities of the pope as the Vicar of Christ were elaborated, the Donation could be dispensed with, as was done in fact by Innocent III."

Reference:(New Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. 4, p. 1001)

WATCH OUT FOR THE COMING "COLOSSAL RACKETS" OF THE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! DRIVE THEM AWAY FROM YOUR HOMES!!!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!!! PEASANTS AND PROFESSIONALS UNITE!!! SMASH TO IGNOMINY AND DEFEAT THE EVILS OF THESE SPURIOUS RELIGIONS!!! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAIN!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#22 Apr 19, 2013
nyg wrote:
Here are some more. Check out that forest cover, moss and bats!
St. Marks Bascilica, Venice - http://goo.gl/maps/KrV1d
Florence Cathedral, Florence
http://goo.gl/maps/UqR7O
Nyg,

There is nothing to be proud of with regards to landgrabbed properties owned by the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox, and Protestants!!! Several historical scholars have already exposed the forgeries and fabrications of the Vatican popes!!!

The Donation of Costantine was one of these forgeries and by Pope Hadrian I:

"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."

Reference: Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.

All properties of the Roman Catholic Church the world over are questionable including those which she shared with the Orthodox and Protestant cults during the traumas of her convulsive schisms!!!

All
Spurious "Born-again", Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Philippine General Council of Assemblies of God, Philippines For Jesus Movement, Atheists, United Methodist Church Philippines, General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in the Philippines, Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, "Ang Dating Tumbong Doon" K.Y.J. Eli Fernando Soriano, Baptists, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, Spurious Born-again, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Aglipayans, 700 Bar Club members, Episcopalians, Methodists, Branch Davidians, members of European and American cults, Skeptics, Agnostics, and those outside of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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