Maharlika Nation

[visionarylink]

I'm curious if people here are interested to discuss about renaming the country as Maharlika.

Maharlika may connote a 'free person' in our history. I researched at the internet and pondered its root may have sprung up from the Sanskrit words "Maha" meaning great, noble and "Lekha" meaning a creation, a work. Interesting.

Philippines came from the name of a foreign figure, prince Philip who later became King Philip II. We seem sunbconsciously manipulated to colonial mentality and no wonder we can't seem to move as a nation even compared to more cultured, civilized ASEAN neighbors like Thailand or even Vietnam.

Pagusapan natin ito.

[visionarylink]

Anybody here who have the capability to discuss this issue for national dignity and not comfortable with colonial mentality?

[sarcewhitezari]

[ Hi, this wonderful!!! I am also searching the internet to find a good name for our country until I bumped in to your site or whatever you call this forum room. You know what, I am also thinking about Maharlika as a very nice name for our country... Why I am saying this because like what you said we are using a name that is not ours, and in fact I consider this name as a mark of an SLAVE.(try to visit my yahoo!360) where I posted my thinking about the name Philippines.... or if you have a yahoo messenger add me as [e-mail]..... this is a good start, and I hope you will continue this and I believe in the future we will succeed in erasing this shamefull mark which the colonialist put in our country.

[sarcewhitezari]

It is time to make a real change! And start it by removing the jinx name philippines that is enforced on us to swallow.....

[TallGeese]

actually my teacher told me that the meaning of maharlika is not really good something to do with male genitals i think cant remember it right^^

[Space1]

Why bother to rename the country? Try to change the system first then think about renaming it later. No matter how many times to rename it but if the lousy system is uncontrollable then the jinx will never disappear. It is not in the name,it is on whoever are running the country.

[George]

visionarylink wrote:

I'm curious if people here are interested to discuss about renaming the country as Maharlika.
Maharlika may connote a 'free person' in our history. I researched at the internet and pondered its root may have sprung up from the Sanskrit words "Maha" meaning great, noble and "Lekha" meaning a creation, a work. Interesting.
Philippines came from the name of a foreign figure, prince Philip who later became King Philip II. We seem sunbconsciously manipulated to colonial mentality and no wonder we can't seem to move as a nation even compared to more cultured, civilized ASEAN neighbors like Thailand or even Vietnam.
Pagusapan natin ito.

Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the dictator Ferdinand Marcos attempted to foist upon the Filipino people the name Maharlika. In pre–colonial Philippines, maharlika denoted a warrior–noble who belonged to the lower aristocracy and who rendered military service to his lord. But Maharlika also happened to be the nom de guerre that Marcos, vaunted to be the most bemedalled Filipino soldier, used as an anti–Japanese guerrilla soldier in World War II. It was also the name of the guerrilla unit that Marcos claimed to have formed and led in World War II and to have grown into a 9,200–strong force in 1945. Marcos’ sycophants tried to appeal to the Filipinos’ sense of nationalism, arguing that Philippines merely reflected the victories of the country’s invaders. They cast aspersions on the competence and character of Philip II, pointing out that he reigned badly and precipitated Spain’s decline as a world power, and that he succumbed to venereal disease, a scourge of royalty and nobility then. To drum up support for Maharlika, the Marcos regime concocted and peddled the “Maharlika culture”, which was purportedly based on pre–colonial native traditions and values. The search for national identity and culture became the search for the “maharlika qualities” of the Filipino.

http://cpcabrisbane.org/Kasama/2003/V17n3/Col...

Imelda is at its best when relying on traditional Filipino myths or storytelling styles. Ferdinand Marcos is introduced in a number called “Maharlika,” which nicely encapsulates both Marcos’s past successes and his attempt to create himself as a cultural icon tied to Filipino traditions and values.

http://www.talkinbroadway.com/regional/la/la1...

Marcos is truly the Maharlika.

Maharlika is not new. Maharlika is based from early invaders' language. It is also foreign-derivative like Philippines.

[Matikas]

Yeah , we should our flag too. We'r ethe only country that has a star and sun on our flag. Didn't they know that sun is a star also? Filipinos are supposed to be smart ey?

[George]

Matikas wrote:

Yeah , we should our flag too. We'r ethe only country that has a star and sun on our flag. Didn't they know that sun is a star also? Filipinos are supposed to be smart ey?

He wants to change to "Maharlika" and now you want to change our flag too. I don't get your rationale there. The sun a star? and the star is already a star? and these are all stars? are you saying the flag of the Philippines is a star-studded one? No wonder Filipinos have this thing you call 'star complex'. They all want to be 'superstars','starlets' and "starirays" (lol). Well, please tell Mrs. Teodora Agoncillo to have the flag resewn. If Agoncillo is alive today what would you suggest her as a replacement for the 'stars'? Perhaps pictures of all Filipino superstars like Nora Aunor, Manny Pacquiao, Ferdinand Marcos, Pokwang, Wowowee, Dolphy et al or photos of the most corrupt "stars" in the government such as Gloria & Miguel Arroyo, Cory Aquino, Joseph estrada, Emilio Aguinaldo, Ferdinand and imelda Marcos, that governor and this Mayor and all of them.

[visionarylink]

TallGeese wrote:

actually my teacher told me that the meaning of maharlika is not really good something to do with male genitals i think cant remember it right^^

That's a manipulation of puppet corporate media. I saw it on Time magazine I said and felt contemptous about the obsolete researcher. Now it's internet age and one can easily find dictionaries (even sanskrit) on the web, and that's what I discovered, the profound meaning of Maharlika that is contrary to the manipulation of foreign media puppetry.
Sense this, who would want you to remain gullible with colonial mentality but the 'colonizers' themselves, and add up the national stupidity too of mediocreness that dare not challenge the impostions of thoe whose interests are not for our benefit as a people.

[visionarylink]

Hi people, it's a good thing that this forum is kicking back unlike before. Will be posting back here and encourage much discussion about this topic with those that discern its necessary importance.

[visionarylink]

George wrote:

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Back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the dictator Ferdinand Marcos attempted to foist upon the Filipino people the name Maharlika. In pre–colonial Philippines, maharlika denoted a warrior–noble who belonged to the lower aristocracy and who rendered military service to his lord. But Maharlika also happened to be the nom de guerre that Marcos, vaunted to be the most bemedalled Filipino soldier, used as an anti–Japanese guerrilla soldier in World War II. It was also the name of the guerrilla unit that Marcos claimed to have formed and led in World War II and to have grown into a 9,200–strong force in 1945. Marcos’ sycophants tried to appeal to the Filipinos’ sense of nationalism, arguing that Philippines merely reflected the victories of the country’s invaders. They cast aspersions on the competence and character of Philip II, pointing out that he reigned badly and precipitated Spain’s decline as a world power, and that he succumbed to venereal disease, a scourge of royalty and nobility then. To drum up support for Maharlika, the Marcos regime concocted and peddled the “Maharlika culture”, which was purportedly based on pre–colonial native traditions and values. The search for national identity and culture became the search for the “maharlika qualities” of the Filipino.
http://cpcabrisbane.org/Kasama/2003/V17n3/Col...
Imelda is at its best when relying on traditional Filipino myths or storytelling styles. Ferdinand Marcos is introduced in a number called “Maharlika,” which nicely encapsulates both Marcos’s past successes and his attempt to create himself as a cultural icon tied to Filipino traditions and values.
http://www.talkinbroadway.com/regional/la/la1...
Marcos is truly the Maharlika.
Maharlika is not new. Maharlika is based from early invaders' language. It is also foreign-derivative like Philippines.

You did not include the influence of the CIA and foreign meddling (US of A) during that time causing much strife and conflict that had been its trademark as you may obviously notice in other countries it manipulated like Latin America, Vietnam, etc. If one senses their covert operations, it won't be suprising why you're saying this and making the US (Inc.) supported dictator the convenient scapegoat in keeping this country bounded by its contemptous mentality for the benefit of foreign interest at our expense by empowering the stupdity of such mindset.

[visionarylink]

Space1 wrote:

Why bother to rename the country? Try to change the system first then think about renaming it later. No matter how many times to rename it but if the lousy system is uncontrollable then the jinx will never disappear. It is not in the name,it is on whoever are running the country.

This is precisely one of the major reasons, but if you think intricately enough, you will notice the complexity of its connecting jumbles such that in order to change the system here, one must change the mindset of its manipulated people and as such, a change of paradigm from the gullible colonial mentality created at its most basic by the country's name, is a vital necessity.

[Arao]

I wanted to change the name of our beloved country to Maharlika too... i do believe it will boost national pride starting a cultural, moral, and political revolution... at least, that's what I'm hoping for... living in another country because my own can't provide for a better future for it's people says a lot... having my nationality synonymous with being corrupt, or an OFW keeps a lot of filipinos denying their own... how sad is that?... i think, if don't do anything about our current situation, we'll be diluted... and fade away ...

[frosty]

it's also nice to change it to Malaya, but that was the original name of Peninsular Malaysia. And we did once plan to change to Malaysia but then today's Malaysia got it before us.

[frosty]

i think nationalism is the ultimate thing we should boost in our country rather than obliterating corruption and baring drain because once the population is nationalistic, there would be a domino effect on the country such as lowering of crimes, higher educational standard, filipinization of businesses, significance of culture to the youth, and most importantly, getting rid of US oil.

[victor1970]

I agree that we should put nationalism first, and the true identity of every filipino emerge. We should start filipinization.

[judy]

YES!!!!!!!!!
MAHARLIKA!!!!!!
I am a mamber of the samala nation - a so called tribe in the santa barbara area of cailfonia....this is beautiful that you begin this dialog!!!
we as "first nation' peoples of amerika are definitely in this on-going dialog.
where I feel most understood now a days is with the soverieng heirs ot Hawaii.
YES!!
we are NATIONS and not trines!
My mother is visayan -- or her father is from the cebu island.
I went with her to cebu in '99.
I can't tell you how inportant it is to be rid of the 'jinxed' names that only confuse and never allows us to assert our own people as the sovereign heirs!
GOOD topic - great assertion!!!!!
self determination is alive in the islands!!!!!!
Blessings.
~ JT

visionarylink wrote:

I'm curious if people here are interested to discuss about renaming the country as Maharlika.
Maharlika may connote a 'free person' in our history. I researched at the internet and pondered its root may have sprung up from the Sanskrit words "Maha" meaning great, noble and "Lekha" meaning a creation, a work. Interesting.
Philippines came from the name of a foreign figure, prince Philip who later became King Philip II. We seem sunbconsciously manipulated to colonial mentality and no wonder we can't seem to move as a nation even compared to more cultured, civilized ASEAN neighbors like Thailand or even Vietnam.
Pagusapan natin ito.

[Senor Filipinas]

Great ideas, wonderful dreams... but that's just what it is--dreams. Viva Espana! Viva Las Islas Filipinas!

[visionarylink]

Senor Filipinas wrote:

Great ideas, wonderful dreams... but that's just what it is--dreams. Viva Espana! Viva Las Islas Filipinas!

Personally, it isn't much of a dream to me because historically speaking, being a Maharlika was not a myth. It did exist and had been part of our country's history, and will continue to exist regardless of the limitation imposed on this country or the naivity of its people, even to the point that it goes beyond physical and secular concerns and transcend instead towards philosophical, and even spiritual realm.
It cannot be denied that Spain, among others had influenced this country and may even be appreciated for it. However, being a Maharlikan will transcend beyond limitations of being Filipino, and will be a way of life for the individual to define himself/ herself with much broader horizons.