After stunning British 'no,' US finds itself with only 1 ally in Syria strike: France

Aug 30, 2013 Full story: The Winnipeg Free Press 1,183

Britain's Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne arrives at 10 Downing Street, in London, Friday, Aug. 30, 2013.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#656 Sep 7, 2013
Sugarbabies64 wrote:
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Not really, companies are laws, policy's, all centered around profit. Actually it makes them very predictable and necessary for our economy...
But a company that makes it's money in war, cannot be expected to be unbiased in a situation like this.. So the controls for those companies must rest elsewhere.
controls for those companies must rest elsewhere than where? aren't they controlled by the owners of the companies?

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#657 Sep 7, 2013
Shinichiro Takizawa wrote:
Bombs are worse than industry-sewage, radiation and mercury at least for them.
..Longass posts are rude.....

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#658 Sep 7, 2013
The controls lie within a representative government, that we have..

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#659 Sep 7, 2013
Sugarbabies64 wrote:
The controls lie within a representative government, that we have..
not sure i understand what you are saying... the gov't controls our companies and corporations?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#660 Sep 7, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> ..Longass posts are rude.....
well, informative ones not so much...crazy ones, yes.

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#661 Sep 7, 2013
Ok,
How do I explain this, all the defense contractors all have lobbyist in Washington to influence our elected official.. This influence is driving solely by profits for the said company's.

The only thing that prevents this from being a completely run away system, is that eventually that elected official will answer to the public for his or her decisions..

That's what I mean by controls..

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Sep 10

Find the bastards and pile on.

#662 Sep 7, 2013
Ambassador Bolton said he thinks that the President made a big mistake by saying a year ago that it would be a red line for the Assad regime to use chemical weapons because it clearly implied that the president would do something about it. When the first reports of chemical weapons came in March of this year, the Administration was clearly surprised, they didn’t know what to do, they didn’t have an answer and as a consequence, they didn’t have an answer and the president’s credibility, and America’s, was gravely wounded.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#663 Sep 7, 2013
Sugarbabies64 wrote:
Ok,
How do I explain this, all the defense contractors all have lobbyist in Washington to influence our elected official.. This influence is driving solely by profits for the said company's.
The only thing that prevents this from being a completely run away system, is that eventually that elected official will answer to the public for his or her decisions..
That's what I mean by controls..
lobbying is the most basic, absolute foundation upon which our nation is founded. the civil rights movement supporters were lobbyists. the suffragettes were lobbyists. the occupy wall street fools were lobbyists...ineffectual ones, but hey, they thought they were doing something, eh?

now what is it you don't like about lobbying?

perhaps you problem is with the money that lobbyist can bring to campaigns? well, if we didn't have complacent voters who only vote on who has the most TV commercials with the most flags waving,(as that is where 90% of all campaign money goes) then all the money in the world wouldn't make a difference in the campaign.

so it is not lobbying, it is not the money, it is that the US electorate has sold their representation via their TV remote...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#664 Sep 7, 2013
Fortunate Son 1968 wrote:
Ambassador Bolton said he thinks that the President made a big mistake by saying a year ago that it would be a red line for the Assad regime to use chemical weapons because it clearly implied that the president would do something about it. When the first reports of chemical weapons came in March of this year, the Administration was clearly surprised, they didn’t know what to do, they didn’t have an answer and as a consequence, they didn’t have an answer and the president’s credibility, and America’s, was gravely wounded.
You, and Bolton should read the quote fo what the president said in his red-line speech.

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Since: Sep 10

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#665 Sep 7, 2013
"Obama stated,“My credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’s credibility is on the line.”"
Wow this is so shocking obama is saying he is not accountable passing on the responsibility again.
Shinichiro Takizawa

Japan

#666 Sep 7, 2013
I cannot find appropriate videos.
But, I cannot see the difference among tear-gas, pepper-spray and Sarin-gas from your videos.

Oh, by the way, you did this to your people?

Occupy Oakland video: Police use flashbangs & tear-gas against protesters


Occupy D.C. Protesters Pepper Sprayed @ National Air & Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

Occupy Denver 10-29-11 - Tear Gas Victim
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

Occupy Oakland video: Riot police fire tear gas, flashbang grenades
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
guy

London, UK

#667 Sep 7, 2013
Looks like the frogs might go it alone or look stupid.

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#668 Sep 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>lobbying is the most basic, absolute foundation upon which our nation is founded. the civil rights movement supporters were lobbyists. the suffragettes were lobbyists. the occupy wall street fools were lobbyists...ineffectual ones, but hey, they thought they were doing something, eh?
now what is it you don't like about lobbying?
perhaps you problem is with the money that lobbyist can bring to campaigns? well, if we didn't have complacent voters who only vote on who has the most TV commercials with the most flags waving,(as that is where 90% of all campaign money goes) then all the money in the world wouldn't make a difference in the campaign.
so it is not lobbying, it is not the money, it is that the US electorate has sold their representation via their TV remote...
Well I was talking about lobbyist specifically related to defense contractors. And how they can profit by keeping the US perpetually in war, if it were not for our system of Government..

I didn't say lobbyist concept was all bad or with without merit.

I didn't say

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#669 Sep 7, 2013
Sugarbabies64 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I was talking about lobbyist specifically related to defense contractors. And how they can profit by keeping the US perpetually in war, if it were not for our system of Government..
I didn't say lobbyist concept was all bad or with without merit.
I didn't say
so some lobbying is OK but not the ones you don't like?

again, perhaps if we had an informed, involved electorate, they could influence our foreign policy the way they want. it's tough for the average US citizen to lobby their senator when they cannot even name one of them...

“Land of Entrapment”

Since: Sep 10

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#670 Sep 7, 2013
Poor obama being shunned by the world leaders and his own congress. Would be so sad to see a sitting president removed from office due to a nervous breakdown. Not"

On CNN’s Newsroom with Carol Costello, Congressman Matt Salmon (R-AZ) made an excellent point in regards to the Obama administration’s claim that “he did not draw a red-line in regards to potential response to the use of chemical weapons in Syria; that the world drew a red-line”. This despite the fact that there is documented evidence that Obama did just that one year ago. However, in typical ‘pass the buck’ fashion that this president is known for, he has to lay the blame on someone else. After all, one simply playing leader cannot take responsibility for anything like a true leader would.
Congressman Salmon called the president out on this statement of red line deniability by simply pointing out one simple fact – the president has no international support for his plan of attack.
Of course, the normal Obama mouthpieces, like Secretary of State John Kerry and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, are repeating like parrots the worked up line that the red line was drawn by the world or by humanity. However, the president, who took the social media scene by storm and who never lets a television appearance go to waste, is beaten in his own game of using, or in his case overusing, media. There is documented proof that he said what he said. But, as is typically the modus operandi of Democrats, they want to re-write history lest their “Dear Leader” look bad.

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#671 Sep 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so some lobbying is OK but not the ones you don't like?
again, perhaps if we had an informed, involved electorate, they could influence our foreign policy the way they want. it's tough for the average US citizen to lobby their senator when they cannot even name one of them...
I didn't say that either, how is it your missing it ?
tao

London, UK

#672 Sep 7, 2013
Weird no one gave a poop when Israel was using Phosphorous on children.
crystal

Burnaby, Canada

#673 Sep 7, 2013
You know Americans are not really smart. They should make friend with the Syrian government and do some kind of business. Like what they did in China. If the American Government wants to spread democracy, they should sit down with Assad, not killing all these people. Even if Assad is dead, the problem continues you know. because Arab people are resilient people and the American would pay the consequences for what they have done to this country. They won't do it next year or in 5 years or in 10 years. The best weapon is to spread Freedom of democracy in this country. Not war.
Martin Nuke

Antipolo, Philippines

#674 Sep 7, 2013
tao wrote:
Weird no one gave a poop when Israel was using Phosphorous on children.
White Phosphorous is not considered to be a WMD in the Geneva convention but it is just regulated and it is used for smoke screen when an attack in in progress but it has a burning effect when in contact.

The Palestenians also used White Phosphosous in Israel.

Sarin is a WMD in the Geneva Convention and it can be fatal and kill many with just one drop and it is designed to kill.

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#675 Sep 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so some lobbying is OK but not the ones you don't like?
again, perhaps if we had an informed, involved electorate, they could influence our foreign policy the way they want. it's tough for the average US citizen to lobby their senator when they cannot even name one of them...
I em talking about the checks and balances that are in place, and why they are there. What does my liking or not liking have anything to do with it ?

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