ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#42 Aug 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The good news is INC is a very small cult. A real nobody in comparison to other religions. That's because it's a high pressure cult that forces it's members to claim Manalo is equal to Jesus! LMFAO!
Liberturd<

Here's the Iglesia ni Cristo when compared to other religions:

"Why is it that everytime we get to talking about a strong and well-managed, disciplined and powerful church, we invariably point to the Iglesia Ni Cristo?

"We would even heave a sigh and wonder what makes the INC so influential. What makes its members so committed and disciplined that they attend services twice a week without fail?"

Reference:[Bodegon, Joel L. The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the Role of the Laity, p. 116]

"It has been noticed that the Church, the Iglesia, has grown dramatically to the extent that now it can be said that it is the biggest religious denomination in the country."

Reference: Cesar Pobre, Ph.D. Former President, Philippine Historical Association.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#43 Aug 18, 2013
LOL you always cite these references from people that no one cares what they say, except INM cult when it has something good to say about them. No one cares what Joel L Bodegon thinks. No one cares what some other persons says about this or about that. How about your doctrines that cant stand on their own? How about how you have to resort to attacking other religions because your doctrines are false garbage?

And obviously, PhD or no PhD, Cesar Pobre has no clue what he is talking about if he calls the INM cult the largest denomination in the Philippines LOL!!!
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#44 Aug 18, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
LOL you always cite these references from people that no one cares what they say, except INM cult when it has something good to say about them. No one cares what Joel L Bodegon thinks. No one cares what some other persons says about this or about that. How about your doctrines that cant stand on their own? How about how you have to resort to attacking other religions because your doctrines are false garbage?
And obviously, PhD or no PhD, Cesar Pobre has no clue what he is talking about if he calls the INM cult the largest denomination in the Philippines LOL!!!
Ozzy,

The truth is hurting and bruising your ego!!! The people mentioned do not gamble like you!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#45 Aug 18, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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They are not baptized and not full members of your church. Way to condemn children to hell
Iglesia Kapo Na, Liko Pa,

Correct!!! They are not baptized but offered to God!!! Their baptism will only take place once they hear the teachings, taught, believe, and have faith!!! The matter is not true in the Catholic Church!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#46 Aug 18, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kapo Na, Liko Pa,
Correct!!! They are not baptized but offered to God!!! Their baptism will only take place once they hear the teachings, taught, believe, and have faith!!! The matter is not true in the Catholic Church!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
So then, in your church, that are not baptized (12 years old and younger) are condemned to hell! Glad we finally agree on something..lol

Since: Jul 13

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#47 Aug 18, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Ozzy,
The truth is hurting and bruising your ego!!! The people mentioned do not gamble like you!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
How do you know they didnt enjoy gambling? Maybe they were into cock fights?(Not the kind of cock fight you experience with Jose Ventilacion). Maybe they played dice or cards or pulled the handle of a slot machine? Can you say 100% that none of the people you reference ever gambled? LOL Maybe you can go enjoy some Bingo with some Catholics LOL

Since: Jul 13

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#48 Aug 18, 2013
INC members don't gamble? is that why they have two locales conveniently located in Atlantic City and Las Vegas?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#49 Aug 19, 2013
Opinion piece from 16 years ago does not show consistent growth. The only way to prove consistent growth is to show exact membership numbers from year to year.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Manila Bulletin, May 10, 1997)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#50 Aug 19, 2013
You stale old opinion pieces mean nothing.

INC is a high pressure high stress cult and members are miserable just as we see how miserable you are. The poor people are forced into so much nonsense it's pathetic. Stupid Manalo cult saps all the happiness out of their lives. No wonder you guys refuse to show membership numbers and Catholic RCIA classes are packed.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberty<
Here's the Iglesia ni Cristo when compared to other religions:
"Why is it that everytime we get to talking about a strong and well-managed, disciplined and powerful church, we invariably point to the Iglesia Ni Cristo?
"We would even heave a sigh and wonder what makes the INC so influential. What makes its members so committed and disciplined that they attend services twice a week without fail?"
Reference:[Bodegon, Joel L. The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the Role of the Laity, p. 116]

Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#52 Aug 20, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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So then, in your church, that are not baptized (12 years old and younger) are condemned to hell! Glad we finally agree on something..lol
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Why should a younger Iglesia ni Cristo who is 12 years old and below be condemned??? The fact that a few days after birth the infant was offered to God show that the child would become one of those who will inherit eternal life since he is sinless!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#53 Aug 20, 2013
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
INC members don't gamble? is that why they have two locales conveniently located in Atlantic City and Las Vegas?
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Why??? If we have Iglesia ni Cristo congregations in Las Vegas, NV and Atlantic City, Georgia, then, that only means that we are the light shining in a darkened and perverted world!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#54 Aug 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Opinion piece from 16 years ago does not show consistent growth. The only way to prove consistent growth is to show exact membership numbers from year to year.
<quoted text>
Liberturd,

The Bible existed for thousands of years already, and yet, it has proven that the Iglesia ni Cristo, despite of Her humble beginnings, could become a fully-grown mustard seed and could spread Her crown all over the habitable continents!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#55 Aug 20, 2013
Some Catholic family faithfuls are evacuating to the Santo Domingo chapel in Manila!!! Be careful with Catholic priests!!! They might require faithfuls to have a one-on-one confession and then Mr. Tagle will have to advertize later that there is another six million increase in Roman Catholic population in the country through conversions and not births!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#56 Aug 20, 2013
Real Christian churches grow in leaps and bounds across all nations and races while INC is over 95% Filipino and the majority of it's 4 million members are in the Philippines. There are more Catholics in NY alone right now than INC members combined from it's Barber shop start to today... And you know it.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Liberty,
The Bible existed for thousands of years already, and yet, it has proven that the Iglesia ni Cristo, despite of Her humble beginnings, could become a fully-grown mustard seed and could spread Her crown all over the habitable continents!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#57 Aug 20, 2013
One of the LV chapels closed a few years ago :)
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Why??? If we have Iglesia ni Cristo congregations in Las Vegas, NV and Atlantic City, Georgia, then, that only means that we are the light shining in a darkened and perverted world!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#58 Aug 20, 2013
Still waiting for you to provide the scriptures showing a mere man was an ANGEL. Remember not all Angels are messengers and certainly not all messengers are Angels. Now stop cowering with urine running down your dress and find those scriptures you cult freak!
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Why should a younger Iglesia ni Cristo who is 12 years old and below be condemned??? The fact that a few days after birth the infant was offered to God show that the child would become one of those who will inherit eternal life since he is sinless!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#59 Aug 20, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
Why??? If we have Iglesia ni Cristo congregations in Las Vegas, NV and Atlantic City, Georgia, then, that only means that we are the light shining in a darkened and perverted world!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
It means your flock goes to the casino after mandatory services to make quick cash for mandatory tithes!

And where is the 'Atlantic City, Georgia'? LOL

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#60 Aug 22, 2013
It shouldn't come as a surprise that Elias doesn't know where Atlantic City is. He always posts random lists of INC chapels and then claims they are brand new when almost all of them have been around for years or even over a decade.
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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It means your flock goes to the casino after mandatory services to make quick cash for mandatory tithes!
And where is the 'Atlantic City, Georgia'? LOL

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#61 Aug 22, 2013
Anyways the Catholic community in the Philippines is growing by converts as well as anyone can see by the waiting list for Catholic RCIA classes there. RCIA classes are ONLY for people CONVERTING to the Catholic Church.
amc

San Juan, Philippines

#63 Aug 23, 2013
manila......

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