Filipino bishops: We will strip Catholic status if schools defy Church teaching

Aug 21, 2012 Full story: DFW Catholic 433

Catholic schools that fail to uphold Church teaching may be stripped of their affiliation with the Church, the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines warned last week.

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#193 Sep 14, 2013
_leisure_ wrote:
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Ozzy, you always go down to the level of persons given to gossiping, esp the level of your co-protestants flock with the username israelnotpinas and saucy. If you believe your concocted accusations to be true, then go out of your hole and prove it. Let's end up in court to know your evidences with you owning up your accusations and facing a libel charge. That way you can get justice or you can face prison time for your bad mouth. That's how to do it on a professional level.
It's also interesting that you say that when you can open a Poopsugo, watch any of the filth on INMTV, Gem25, or what ever channels INM cult speaks, and also go to your cult church twice a week to hear the lies and garbage your cult says about the Catholic and other Protestant churches.

Maybe because it is so clear that the INM cult makes up stories (conversion stories, Catholic and Protestant teaching stories, Angel stories, and the list goes on and on), it seems only fitting that INM cult has its own dirty laundry to hide.

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#194 Sep 14, 2013
_leisure_ wrote:
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Saucy, yes you were taught how to read and you have learned it but you were not able to learn how to understand.
Unlike you, who were taught to blindly follow the ramblings of a rapist and never question him.
Proof: Saucy wrote referring to me, "You do know, that by definition, the Iglesia ni Culto is a protestant flock, right?"
Then ironically to make his point valid he pasted the definition of Protestant that proved his ignorance.
It is hardly ironic. It is fact. Protestant religious organizations are ones that combat the teachings of Christ through the Roman Catholic Church. That is exactly what your cult does. It is exactly why the INC targets the Roman Catholic Church.
My answer:
Point 1. The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) is not and had never been a member of the Western Christian church.
It need not be. That is not part of the definition, stooge.
Rather, it reemerged in the Far East thru the propagation of the messenger of God (Bro FYM) at the time of the ends of the earth.[/QUOTE}
Reemerged or emerged? There is a big difference, stooge. Did it begin somewhere else and then reemerge?
[QUOTE]Point 2. The Iglesia Ni Cristo has never had a belief in the justification by faith alone.
That was not part of the definition either. Your obfuscation will not work with me.
Rather it aimed for perfection thru works, for it enforces the following verses stating that man is justified by works and not by faith alone.
Ah yes, the works include besmirching fellow Christians, huh?
James 2:14-26(NASB)
14 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can [a]that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them,“Go in peace,[b]be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is [c]dead, being by itself.
18 But someone [d]may well say,“You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe that [e]God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22 You see that faith was working with his works, and [f]as a result of the works, faith was [g]perfected; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says,“And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
Why the need to quote yet another biblical translation? The NASB, The KJV, the Moffat...your cult confuses the uneducated like you through deliberate acts of misdirection.
Do try harder.

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#195 Sep 14, 2013
_leisure_ wrote:
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I'm beginning to know you as one of the low IQ'd poster here. Always reading and quacking but never learns.
Little man, I have multiple Masters Degrees, a decade of living in the Philippines, more than twenty years of diplomatic service to my nation and an abundance of interactions with your cult's leaders. For example, when your hovel was bombed in Cotabato, it was my team that your cult leaders turned to for help. They didn't want justice, they wanted retribution. Your cult leaders demanded that we bring them the ones responsible and offered to pay us huge sums to leave Uncle Sam. That seems hardly Christlike.

By the way, your English is horrible. If you wish to insult my education, please don't look like a call center reject in doing so.

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#196 Sep 14, 2013
_leisure_ wrote:
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Saucy, I'm being patient with your difficult learning disability and your shallow curiosity.
Here's something for you to learn:
Answer 1. Among the many bible translations, some verses are affected by its translators own beliefs. Thus, the Church Of Christ (INC) uses different bible translations when reading these verses to compare which one holds to the truth, by comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.
So, it is okay for your cult to pick and choose which versions support their beliefs? Thanks for admitting the duplicity.
Answer 2. When a decision was reached and given out, it's already the time to submit to the Church's leaders authority, just as one submit to the government authorities.
No, the government does not mandate that you vote a certain way. The government does not demand that you yield your Constitutional rights. Your cult does both.

Your cult takes meticulous membership records. Yet, when pressed to divulge their numbers, they claim it is impossible. LOL!
Hebrews 13:17 (NASB)
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.
Is that the Old Testament? Hmmm...should we discuss the myriad inconsistencies and foibles within those stories?

Read Jonah and tell me if you really believe that he was swallowed by a whale, which he lived inside for three days, before being vomited up to live as a prophet.

How about another fun Bible story? 4 Kings 2:23-24 - the moral of that story is don't make fun of bald men or bears will attack innocent children, huh?

Wait, please explain how critical Judges 19:22-30 is to the Iglesia ni Culto way of thinking.

For those unfamiliar, it is the tale of a man and his concubine who stop for the night and seek shelter. A group of rogues learn of the visitors and demand that the man submit himself to them. Yes, they wanted to fuck the man! The home's owner is unwilling to let his male lodger be raped and so offers up his virgin daughter instead. However, this is still not good enough for the men, so the owner offers them his guest’s concubine and the men accept. The men brutally rape the woman and leave her on the doorstep where she nearly bleeds to death. If that is not enough, when she is found by the lord of the manor on which doorstep she collapsed, he kills her, chopping her into twelve pieces which he sends to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

That must be the reason why the Iglesia ni Culto believes they can do what they want with women, huh?

How about one more, fucktard?

1 Samuel 18 -
David wanted to marry Michal, Saul's daughter. Instead of a dowry, Saul commanded him to prove his worth by presenting him with the foreskins of 100 Philistines! David brought back twice that many.

I can see why the Iglesia ni Culto embraces the Bible so litearlly.
Thanks for making it so easy to humiliate you and your cult.

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#197 Sep 14, 2013
Your cult was founded by a guy who was baptized Roman Catholic, became not only a member of other faiths but a minister in several. While serving as a minister with one, he carried on an illicit affair with one of his congregants. She was a minor. His wife was pregnant at the time. His wife died shortly thereafter and Felix fled with the minor to avoid persecution from the church he was ministering. He later married her. His double standards caused friction with many of his initial followers. he sought to control them.

"LESSON NO.24 - THE CHURCH ADMINISTRATION
Theme: Each member of the Church of Christ should be listed with the Church and should submit to the Church Administration.

Objective: To teach the candidate for baptism concerning submission to the Church Administration by obeying the rules and orderliness imposed on the members such as the getting of a certificate of transfer, attendance on committee prayers, getting certificate of attendance in the worship service from locales other than the one he is registered in, etc.

Summary: Each member should submit to the Administration placed by God in the Church by means of total agreement with the teachings and rules observed in the Church of Christ.

Introduction: We should know that to ensure our salvation, we should remain members of the Church of Christ. For this reason, it is important that we know how to keep and maintain our membership in the Church."

(Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), Erano G. Manalo, 1989, p.99)

Do as I say, not as I do.

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#198 Sep 14, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Little man, I have multiple Masters Degrees, a decade of living in the Philippines, more than twenty years of diplomatic service to my nation and an abundance of interactions with your cult's leaders. For example, when your hovel was bombed in Cotabato, it was my team that your cult leaders turned to for help. They didn't want justice, they wanted retribution. Your cult leaders demanded that we bring them the ones responsible and offered to pay us huge sums to leave Uncle Sam. That seems hardly Christlike.
By the way, your English is horrible. If you wish to insult my education, please don't look like a call center reject in doing so.
Mr. Gardiner,
Do you have any idea if the USA Federal Bureau of Investigation will review all phone calls to Iglesia ni cristo ministers made from the Tierra Pura Quezon City mansion of Eduardo V. Manalo ?

Eduardo Manalo ordered his manalo church ministers (including American Citizen US Air Force Bob and Anaceto Bunag's son) to perform Racketeering Criminal Acts on USA Citizens who are USA immigration Violent Crime victims of iglesia ni cristo ministers on USA national jurisdiction. The Manalo church ministers were admitting openly that Eduardo Manalo ordered the manalo church ministers (from Eduardo Manalo's Tierra Pura mansion) to perform blackmail activities and scare tactics on the USA citizens so that the violent immigration crimes performed by iglesia manalo church ministers are kept secret. Here's the funny wrinkle monkey wrench. some of the USA immigration crime victims of the manalo church ministers are family members of the Felix Manalo family and some are also are blood relatives of the Glicerio "Jun" Santos family (Jun Santos is the Auditor General of the iglesia ni cristo).

Happy Hunting!
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/philippines/...

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#199 Sep 14, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
It is a well known story that Felix asked for the Catholic priest from his younger years on his death bed. And that Erano forbid it.
Is it true? Maybe. Maybe not. But it is a story that has been told many times.
But your response really does crack me up! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Keep burying your head in the sand, Leisure.
I'll be waiting for my court summons! LOL!!!
There's this Filipino saying that there is no better way to say it than in Filipino itself: "Ang nanininiwala sa sabi-sabi ay walang bait sa sarili." That's what your stories are. It holds no water. It's just sad if somebody reads it who is lowly person like you would fall for it.

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#200 Sep 14, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
Will Felix come from the grave himself to file the lawsuit? Or will the cult defenders file it claiming blasphemy against Felix Manalo like they did Ross Tipon and lose? LOL!!!
It was a hypothetical scenario where you can face a lot of trouble because of your bad mouthing of Bro FYM. While all of it are lies and concoctions circulated by your protestant squad, somebody who would read it might believe it. Though it's not to worry much about if only they will have time and effort to ask for the real story.

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#201 Sep 14, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
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It's also interesting that you say that when you can open a Poopsugo, watch any of the filth on INMTV, Gem25, or what ever channels INM cult speaks, and also go to your cult church twice a week to hear the lies and garbage your cult says about the Catholic and other Protestant churches.
Maybe because it is so clear that the INM cult makes up stories (conversion stories, Catholic and Protestant teaching stories, Angel stories, and the list goes on and on), it seems only fitting that INM cult has its own dirty laundry to hide.
It hurts you so much when there are articles in Pasugo and other Church's media tackling the doctrinal lies of the Catholics and Protestants and the ugly history of their leaders, but it presents references written by your church's authorities themselves. That's the great difference from your concoctions which is based on hearsay.

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#202 Sep 14, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
It is clear that you have no ability to read.
Prot·es·tant (prt-stnt)
n.
1. A member of a Western Christian church whose faith and practice are founded on the principles of the Reformation, especially in the acceptance of the Bible as the sole source of revelation, in justification by faith alone, and in the universal priesthood of all the believers.
Protestants formed faith groups that 'protested' the Roman Catholic Church's teachings.
You had posted the definition of Protestant above and then you later completely contradicted what it says. Read below your self-conflicts.
My answer:
Point 1. The Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) is not and had never been a member of the Western Christian church.
Your answer:
It need not be. That is not part of the definition, stooge.
Point 2. The Iglesia Ni Cristo has never had a belief in the justification by faith alone.
Your answer:
That was not part of the definition either. Your obfuscation will not work with me.
There your contradictions in front of you. Unless one is mentally sick or took something that clouts his mind, that's hardly coming from a person who truly have multiple master's degrees.

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#203 Sep 14, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Little man, I have multiple Masters Degrees, a decade of living in the Philippines, more than twenty years of diplomatic service to my nation and an abundance of interactions with your cult's leaders. For example, when your hovel was bombed in Cotabato, it was my team that your cult leaders turned to for help. They didn't want justice, they wanted retribution. Your cult leaders demanded that we bring them the ones responsible and offered to pay us huge sums to leave Uncle Sam. That seems hardly Christlike.
By the way, your English is horrible. If you wish to insult my education, please don't look like a call center reject in doing so.
One thing's for sure, this is another "sabi-sabi" concocted by you and will be picked up by your lowly protestant squad here in the names of Ozzy and israelnotpinas. The one's who will fall for this is also the one's with low IQ like you.

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#204 Sep 14, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
My post:
Hebrews 13:17 (NASB)
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.
Your post:
Is that the Old Testament? Hmmm...should we discuss the myriad inconsistencies and foibles within those stories?
Are you asking if Hebrews is part of the old testament? Are you asking because you don't know or for any other reason?

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#205 Sep 14, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
Your cult was founded by a guy who was baptized Roman Catholic, became not only a member of other faiths but a minister in several. While serving as a minister with one, he carried on an illicit affair with one of his congregants. She was a minor. His wife was pregnant at the time. His wife died shortly thereafter and Felix fled with the minor to avoid persecution from the church he was ministering. He later married her. His double standards caused friction with many of his initial followers. he sought to control them.
Another "sabi-sabi, walang bait sa sarili." This definitely comes from the lowly protestant flock who has master's degree in quacking. Just so you know most of the Church Of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo) members have matured in the faith already. "Sabi-sabi" like this is only laughed off because these are fabrications made by you for your lowly agenda.

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#206 Sep 14, 2013
DougOut_Doug_MacArthur wrote:
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Mr. Gardiner,
Do you have any idea if the USA Federal Bureau of Investigation will review all phone calls to Iglesia ni cristo ministers made from the Tierra Pura Quezon City mansion of Eduardo V. Manalo ?
Eduardo Manalo ordered his manalo church ministers (including American Citizen US Air Force Bob and Anaceto Bunag's son) to perform Racketeering Criminal Acts on USA Citizens who are USA immigration Violent Crime victims of iglesia ni cristo ministers on USA national jurisdiction. The Manalo church ministers were admitting openly that Eduardo Manalo ordered the manalo church ministers (from Eduardo Manalo's Tierra Pura mansion) to perform blackmail activities and scare tactics on the USA citizens so that the violent immigration crimes performed by iglesia manalo church ministers are kept secret. Here's the funny wrinkle monkey wrench. some of the USA immigration crime victims of the manalo church ministers are family members of the Felix Manalo family and some are also are blood relatives of the Glicerio "Jun" Santos family (Jun Santos is the Auditor General of the iglesia ni cristo).
Happy Hunting!
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/philippines/...
Saucy, Ozzy, israelnotpinas, hurry up! Pick this one up to add and mix to the melody of your quacks.

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#207 Sep 14, 2013
A lot of whining by Leisure! LOL

And while he likes to make up "hypotheticals", he makes similar accusations and becomes a hypocrite when it comes to defending his cult. Could he be any more INM cult brainwashed? bwahahahaha

I cant wait for my summons from Felix himself! LOL!!!

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#208 Sep 14, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
A lot of whining by Leisure! LOL
And while he likes to make up "hypotheticals", he makes similar accusations and becomes a hypocrite when it comes to defending his cult. Could he be any more INM cult brainwashed? bwahahahaha
I cant wait for my summons from Felix himself! LOL!!!
How about looking at yourself on the mirror? What you're actually doing is brainwashing people of your lowly agenda against the Church of Christ (INC).

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#209 Sep 14, 2013
It's called exposing the truth. Im not brainwashing anyone. Im telling people to go out and finding out the facts for themselves. Unlike your cult who says you must obey them NO MATTER what they tell you. Even when it comes to your life outside the church.
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#210 Sep 15, 2013
_leisure_ wrote:
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Another "sabi-sabi, walang bait sa sarili." This definitely comes from the lowly protestant flock who has master's degree in quacking. Just so you know most of the Church Of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo) members have matured in the faith already. "Sabi-sabi" like this is only laughed off because these are fabrications made by you for your lowly agenda.
You are IGNORANT LEISURE...

What is the exact DATE of Marriage of FELIX MANALO and HONORATA DE GUZMAN???

What is the BIRTHDAY of PILAR MANALO DANAO???(Eldest Daughter)

Lets COMPUTE...

IF IT is LESS THAN NINE MONTHS... Felix and Honorata are FORNICATORS...

Lets do the MATH... What does the Bible told about FORNICATION???

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#211 Sep 15, 2013
Leisure just cant handle truth. He also cant handle stories of his cult founder that make INM cult look like the cult that it is...founded on lies, greed, fornication, and deceit. Even if only one tenth of what is accused is true, thats still VERY bad. But there are some accusations that are proven true and cult members hide their head in the sand or they forgive Felix LOL.

Brainwashing at its best!

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#212 Sep 15, 2013
TheRealOzzy wrote:
It's called exposing the truth. Im not brainwashing anyone. Im telling people to go out and finding out the facts for themselves. Unlike your cult who says you must obey them NO MATTER what they tell you. Even when it comes to your life outside the church.
The truths you're speaking of are actually not true truth but true lies baked by you and your protestant flock. I know it because I'm in the Church and have verified it from within. Now, to people who may have read your melody of quacks against Bro FYM, you have to verify it first with the Church before falling to the brainwashing.

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