Voight visits battered Israeli town

[my kind of town]

kocukrihnan wrote:

<quoted text>Coments most vulgar

Yes, I am sure religous freedom, equality of the sexes and value
of human life are difficult concepts. But, once you leave the mindset
of the 2nd Century, your world can expand.

[El Guapo]

"value of human life"

Value of Jewish life you mean. They dont give a damn about anyone else.

[El Guapo]

And why is it ok for the Jews to attack Palestinian civilians again?

[Lipush]

El Guapo wrote:

And why is it ok for the Jews to attack Palestinian civilians again?

For the same reason it's ok to blow up 70 women in Ashqelon, like it happened yesterday.

[kocukrihnan]

It is okay because , because Jews are there where they are not supposed to be

[Lipush]

kocukrihnan wrote:

It is okay because , because Jews are there where they are not supposed to be

says who?

For first time in history, Jew are exactly at home.

In the 40' you yelled- "Jews, go to Palestine!"

Now you yell "Jews- get out of Palestine!"

so tell me, what exactly do you want from us??!

[greg_allen]

Lipush wrote:

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says who?
For first time in history, Jew are exactly at home.
In the 40' you yelled- "Jews, go to Palestine!"
Now you yell "Jews- get out of Palestine!"
so tell me, what exactly do you want from us??!

is there a particular reason why jews need their won country?
mormons dont have one, buhddists dont have one, episcopalians dont have one, catholics dont have one, muslims dont have one.
why is this the only faith that cannot intertwine into a normal society?

[Lipush]

greg_allen wrote:

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is there a particular reason why jews need their won country?
mormons dont have one, buhddists dont have one, episcopalians dont have one, catholics dont have one, muslims dont have one.
why is this the only faith that cannot intertwine into a normal society?

You have to ask the Non-Jewish communities around the world that question.
Hertzl said in his speaches, that establishing a Jewish country will be good for everyone. for the countries of the world, who hate the Jews, and for the JEws, who no longer be a target of hate.
Since the Jews have different culture, religion and standarts, Hertzl said, very wisely, they cannot possibly be part of every day life with Christians. they will always be obligated to different standarts of their own, and always be hated for being different. therfore, being part of others all the time is not the right solution. since we tried to be part of their lives, The German and polish people belived we are doing that in order to "take control" quietly.
as muc h and more then we try, they will hate us more. therefor we need a country of our own, where we shall not fear of the others and live and believe in what we want.
you cannot and you will not deny us that basic right.

[greg_allen]

Lipush wrote:

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You have to ask the Non-Jewish communities around the world that question.
Hertzl said in his speaches, that establishing a Jewish country will be good for everyone. for the countries of the world, who hate the Jews, and for the JEws, who no longer be a target of hate.
Since the Jews have different culture, religion and standarts, Hertzl said, very wisely, they cannot possibly be part of every day life with Christians. they will always be obligated to different standarts of their own, and always be hated for being different. therfore, being part of others all the time is not the right solution. since we tried to be part of their lives, The German and polish people belived we are doing that in order to "take control" quietly.
as muc h and more then we try, they will hate us more. therefor we need a country of our own, where we shall not fear of the others and live and believe in what we want.
you cannot and you will not deny us that basic right.

jews cannot possibly be a part of everyday life with christians? christians really dont discriminate. how can this be?

[greg_allen]

Lipush wrote:

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You have to ask the Non-Jewish communities around the world that question.
Hertzl said in his speaches, that establishing a Jewish country will be good for everyone. for the countries of the world, who hate the Jews, and for the JEws, who no longer be a target of hate.
Since the Jews have different culture, religion and standarts, Hertzl said, very wisely, they cannot possibly be part of every day life with Christians. they will always be obligated to different standarts of their own, and always be hated for being different. therfore, being part of others all the time is not the right solution. since we tried to be part of their lives, The German and polish people belived we are doing that in order to "take control" quietly.
as muc h and more then we try, they will hate us more. therefor we need a country of our own, where we shall not fear of the others and live and believe in what we want.
you cannot and you will not deny us that basic right.

i for one, dont hate other people for being different, i rather embrace it. i live in san francisco, i dealt with many different types with no problems at all.
why do they expect to be hated for being different?

[Lipush]

greg_allen wrote:

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i for one, dont hate other people for being different, i rather embrace it. i live in san francisco, i dealt with many different types with no problems at all.
why do they expect to be hated for being different?

simply experience.
what happened in Spain, Germany and Poland is still in our memory, very deep.
ANd maybe it does not mean YOU necessaraly, but history nd simple humen nature, proved over and over that the typical humen being is attached to the similar and hate the different, because it's unknown and unpleasent.
which is known to everybody.

[melodylane]

No Planes wrote:

Bastard.Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and the West Bank.Watch the "Iron Wall" documentary.
911 was an inside job.

Spoken by a person from a country who didn't let in other nationalities until sometime after WWII and still has horrid problems with religion...

[melodylane]

kocukrihnan wrote:

James Shortz in America and Andy in Israel. Good combination. One and his ilk who stay in America and do all the dirty swindling tricks and stash away the money for Israel and the other one handles it.

cocukrihan...and you in India...have you ever even met or saw a Jew? Have you ever been allowed to read a Jewish point of view about Israel? Even your comment about money and Jews shows your ignorance...meanwhile the OIL RICH muslims feed your head full of one sided garbage and your brain believes it.

[greg_allen]

Lipush wrote:

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simply experience.
what happened in Spain, Germany and Poland is still in our memory, very deep.
ANd maybe it does not mean YOU necessaraly, but history nd simple humen nature, proved over and over that the typical humen being is attached to the similar and hate the different, because it's unknown and unpleasent.
which is known to everybody.

mormons are different from catholics.
my political views are different from many of my peers, but there are no fights.
what can it not be the same between jews and non jews?

[kocukrihnan]

melodylane wrote:

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cocukrihan...and you in India...have you ever even met or saw a Jew? Have you ever been allowed to read a Jewish point of view about Israel? Even your comment about money and Jews shows your ignorance...meanwhile the OIL RICH muslims feed your head full of one sided garbage and your brain believes it.

I do not think i did meet a Jew,ever.Why should I be "alowed" to read a Jewish pont of view about Israel?What else do I read? Money and Jew!! what is my ignorance? You extort money from Americans. It is a reality.I am sure you can not deny it.And regarding your observation about me bliving what I do,I must say that I am not Gearge Bush or Hillary Clinton, McCane or any other American who do Jews' bidding and say and o only what Jews let them to. I do my own thinking and talk for myself.I will never, never aloow any oil rich Muslim feed my brains. That is so long as i am free to do so, wich Clinton, Bush McCane or even Obama are not

[Lipush]

kocukrihnan wrote:

<quoted text>I do not think i did meet a Jew,ever.Why should I be "alowed" to read a Jewish pont of view about Israel?What else do I read? Money and Jew!! what is my ignorance? You extort money from Americans. It is a reality.I am sure you can not deny it.And regarding your observation about me bliving what I do,I must say that I am not Gearge Bush or Hillary Clinton, McCane or any other American who do Jews' bidding and say and o only what Jews let them to. I do my own thinking and talk for myself.I will never, never aloow any oil rich Muslim feed my brains. That is so long as i am free to do so, wich Clinton, Bush McCane or even Obama are not

you continue to show how much your are not informed correctly.
i bet you experienced a lot in life, but ab out the Israeli-
Jewish life, you simply have no idea.
people seems to act jenious about things they don't know.
people seems to dismiss and eliminae things they dont understand.
you admited yourself that you never met or talked to a Jew.
you present it as if you afraid a Jew will "poisen" you mind by telling you how he see things, but if you ask me, i'm thinking you are just afraid to found our that you're wrong.
i don't blaim you, though.
hate is such a strong feeling. i know how hard is to stop hating.
but you must stop.
i can teach you how.

[Lipush]

greg_allen wrote:

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mormons are different from catholics.
my political views are different from many of my peers, but there are no fights.
what can it not be the same between jews and non jews?

i don't know!
Jews see things different from non-Jews.
in many ways.
for example, it's a sin for most Jews to destoy a holy place od another religion.
it's act of cowardness.
that is why we were so mad that people destroyed synagogs and Jewish graves.
are people that cowards that they turn against the Lord and the wonderful human he created?
one thing i don't understand.
the other thing, is that non Jews seems to wonder why we always cry about having a state, when we can be welcome in other places.
well we won't. Russia is basicly the same as the arab world. Putin can't see through the golden cash. Germany will surley would not welcome us, and the Jews see this land as cures and fool of blood. USA is an option, only for presioners of the situation. it's a very nice prison, but still a prison.
we see only Israel as our home.
only Jews can understand THAT.
Arabs and Gentile rule this world. one billiard muslems, and even more Christians. they are in position of POWER. don't mean to sound rude, but you always had a placed to come back to. you had Europe, where Christians were, and Muslems had their Arab countries. non of your nations have the idea of what it feels like to be persecuted, homeless people. you're so used to having a homeland, that when people are fighting for one you don't undesrstand "why we are whining".
and i'm not speaking about you only.
hat is why, i feel sorry for ome of the Palestinians who truly wish for better life.
but they are so few. so few.
I would hav e not reist for a Palestinian country if their ideology was not killing us, and if it was baised on the importance of respect for us and our holy place, especially Jerusalem.
now it's not possible. until something truly changes i will continue to see many of them as terrorists and many of the non-Jews as clueless.
that's how the situation is, sorry.
i wish it could change.

[mohamed lion of God]

Lipush wrote:

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For the same reason it's ok to blow up 70 women in Ashqelon, like it happened yesterday.

ok,ok, hurting women and children is bad and totally unacceptable,whether they are israeli or not,we'll agree on that (but soldiers are fair game !hahahaha!)

but those who started this turmoil are the ones responsible.guess who they are?

[mohamed lion of God]

Lipush wrote:

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You have to ask the Non-Jewish communities around the world that question.
Hertzl said in his speaches, that establishing a Jewish country will be good for everyone. for the countries of the world, who hate the Jews, and for the JEws, who no longer be a target of hate.
Since the Jews have different culture, religion and standarts, Hertzl said, very wisely, they cannot possibly be part of every day life with Christians. they will always be obligated to different standarts of their own, and always be hated for being different. therfore, being part of others all the time is not the right solution. since we tried to be part of their lives, The German and polish people belived we are doing that in order to "take control" quietly.
as muc h and more then we try, they will hate us more. therefor we need a country of our own, where we shall not fear of the others and live and believe in what we want.
you cannot and you will not deny us that basic right.

fine,lets use some logic.

you do have a right to build up your state,but you HAVENT the right to BUILD IT ON THE RUBBLE OF OUR HOMES.got that?
if you evict us from our homes, we have every right to take our land back from you, and then we would send you back to where you came from.if you will do it voluntarily then thanks a lot.

'they will kill us!'

fine, we'll send you to the US.
live a good life there.
what have you to do in our lands with the crazy gentiles?

[James Shortz]

mohamed lion of God wrote:

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ok,ok, hurting women and children is bad and totally unacceptable,whether they are israeli or not,we'll agree on that (but soldiers are fair game !hahahaha!)
but those who started this turmoil are the ones responsible.guess who they are?

some bastardized terrorishlamics

it is ishlum that keeps you shlums mired in feces