How many people convert to Hinduism?

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Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#1 Sep 11, 2007
Before some of you low life Islamaphobics begin to even try to criticise my religion look at the inequality of your bloody caste system and ask yourself why so many so called untouchables convert to other religions or become atheists.
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#2 Sep 11, 2007
According to India's 2001 census, there were 932 girls for every 1,000 boys under the age of six, but in some parts of India the ratio is even more skewed toward boys. In Daman & Diu state, north of the city of Mumbai, for instance, the ratio of girls to boys was 710 to 1,000, according to the 2001 census.
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#3 Sep 11, 2007
Stop Hinduism from promoting discrimination

Bhumika Ghimire
July 2, 2006
As a society changes through time, its culture, beliefs and social systems need to change.Otherwise there will be an imbalance which has negative effect in the society, itls people and its growth.

The Nepali Hindu society has now entered a defining moment in history.After the nations' historic April revolutuion, which essentially brought down the monarchy and declared the nation secular, the people now have the task of rebuilding nation. Until the rveolution, Nepal was a Hindu state, with majority of population being Hindus.So the task of reforming the nation should start with the largest group of people.

Following are certain practices and beliefs which need to be reformed or removed if we want Nepal to progress as a modern society.

1) The ritual of animal sacrifice should be stopped immediately.This practice is inhuman and cruel.In name of religion we as a society cannot promote cruelty.

2) The practice of discriminating women when they are mensurating should stop.I know the supreme court has outlawed this but then it is not be honoured.In my home(while in Nepal) I was not allowed to enter the kitchen, go to the temple or touch anyone while I was having my periods.Yes I accept the blame for promoting this draconian practice and I promise I will not go dumb when this happens again.Every Nepali family should understand that mensuration is a normal bilogial process and does not make one "un-pure".This whole concept of discriminating mensurating women was developed to ensure that women didn't value themselves, that women felt they are inferior.

3) The practice of dowry should end.For my wedding my parents didn't spend much on dowry because we would be living in US and it was not possible to bring everything here.Still almost all wedding in Nepal, dowry is a big issue.The groom's side often ask for certain items or certain amount of money.In terai region, brides are tourtured, killed because of dowry dispute.If a bride doesn't bring enough dowry,she is often humiliated by the family members who then force her to ask more from her parents.This is extortion.

4) Then there is the plight of widows. As I mentioned in my article

widow's are at the bottom of Hindu society, even below the untouchables.She cannot wear red, has to give up eating meat(if she is a non-vegitarian), she cannot wear makeup.Widow's are seen as sign of bad luck,so they are not invited in ceratin cermonies during a wedding.Family humiliation and society's torture is another thing they have to bear. In contrast if a wife dies a man is a free bird.Some even marry immediately after the customary 45 day mourning period.This is height of discrimination and cruely againt women.

5) Caste system should be abolished.Infact(this is extreme), no one should be allowed to write their last name which would represent their caste.For example, I am a Ghimire,so I am a brahmin( the so called higher cate), so I should not write my name as Bhumika Ghimire.Instead of a caste based last name people should write another name as last name.For Example, Bhumika Laxmi( Laxmi is goddess of wealth).

6) Everyone should be allowed to enter a temple.The untouchables and people from other religions should not be barred.

7) Discrimination against single womern, childless women and women who don't have sons should end.A widow should be allowed to remarry,if she desires.I know there is no leagl provision agaist widow re-marriage but then the families still donot accept this and take this as a sign of promuscuity or betryal.

Above all, we should amend all the religious texts which say men are above women or which promote discrimination,from Manu Smirit to the Vedas.

Copyright:Bhumika,2006
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#4 Sep 11, 2007
India's Untouchables turn to Buddhism in protest at discrimination by Hindus
By Justin Huggler in Delhi
Published: 13 October 2006
Across India this month, thousands of Hindus from the former Untouchable castes are converting to Buddhism in protest at the continuing discrimination they face. Mass conversion ceremonies are being held throughout the month, from Delhi in the north, to Hyderabad in the south. Organisers are claiming that more than 100,000 people have already converted.

Conversion is a highly charged political issue. Several states have passed laws this year making it harder to convert, and the mass ceremonies will infuriate Hindu nationalist parties that have been campaigning to stop lower caste Hindus changing their religion.

But for many Dalits, as Untouchables are now known, conversion is the only way to escape the oppression they still face in Hindu society. Untouchability has been illegal in India since independence, but it is still commonly practised. In many villages Dalits are not allowed to drink clean water from a well. In some areas, tea shops keep a different glass for Dalits to use, so higher-caste Hindus are not "polluted" by drinking from the same vessel, even after it has been washed. After the 2004 tsunami, Dalit survivors in Tamil Nadu were prevented from sharing water in relief camps.

Dalits are converting in large numbers this year because it is the 50th anniversary of the conversion of their most important leader of modern times, B R Ambedkar, who first called on Dalits to become Buddhists in order to escape discrimination.

When Mahatma Gandhi was leading non-violent protests against British rule, Ambedkar was using the same methods to demand equal rights for Untouchables. He was critical of Gandhi, and outspoken in his attacks on Hinduism.

"These people are converting as a protest," says Sakya Ponnu Durai, one of the organisers of the mass conversion ceremonies. But Mr Durai, a Dalit who himself converted two years ago, says he has wholeheartedly become a practising Buddhist. "After converting, I have much more satisfaction," he says.

Many of those converting are doing so to escape the menial jobs traditionally assigned to Dalits. Under the rigid rules of the caste system, it is difficult to change to a job reserved for a higher caste. Although this is no longer the case in the cities, in villages it is still practised. Many Dalits are forced to work as scavengers and latrine cleaners.

Mr Durai was more fortunate: his father was in the Indian military and was able to give him a good education in Chennai. But he says he still faced discrimination.

Even at university, Mr Durai says he was badly beaten by higher-caste students enraged that a Dalit had got better marks than them. Today, he is a federal government worker in Delhi. He is fully aware that conversions are a potentially explosive issue. Hindu nationalist parties are unhappy with the large numbers of lower-caste Hindus converting, not only to Buddhism but also Christianity.

This year several states, including Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, have introduced laws that anyone wishing to convert will have to obtain official permission first. Gujarat, home to some of the most hardline Hindu groups, has introduced a more controversial law under which Buddhism is considered part of Hinduism.

In a separate rally this weekend, not connected to the conversion ceremonies, thousands of Dalits plan to burn the new laws.

By a strange irony, as well as the 50th anniversary of Ambedkar's death, the conversions are taking place amid controversy over the funeral of the Dalits' most powerful political leader, Kanshi Ram. Ram had also converted to Buddhism, but some of his relatives objected when his cremation was carried out according to Buddhist rites.
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#5 Sep 11, 2007
Mr Naga wrote:
According to India's 2001 census, there were 932 girls for every 1,000 boys under the age of six, but in some parts of India the ratio is even more skewed toward boys. In Daman & Diu state, north of the city of Mumbai, for instance, the ratio of girls to boys was 710 to 1,000, according to the 2001 census.
By aborting your baby girls some of you hindus are destroying your society. Like the late singer James Brown sang, This is a mans world but it would be nothing without a women or a girl.
Zorro

Halesowen, UK

#6 Sep 11, 2007
Naga what you trying to do put hinduism on the dole
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#7 Sep 11, 2007
Some of them keep bashing muslims!
Indian

Chattanooga, TN

#8 Sep 11, 2007
Mr Naga
You dont worry about hindu and hinduism

Save ur islam and muslims
We r 100 crore indians to think about hindus and hinduism....

So do ur work...and stop this ....
Otherwise when we started to talk about u non indian muslims u cant live in this forums...

So be smart and stop this u bitch...
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#9 Sep 12, 2007
Indian wrote:
Mr Naga
You dont worry about hindu and hinduism
Save ur islam and muslims
We r 100 crore indians to think about hindus and hinduism....
So do ur work...and stop this ....
Otherwise when we started to talk about u non indian muslims u cant live in this forums...
So be smart and stop this u bitch...
I am only retaliating to comments made by Islamophobes who know diddley squat about Islam.

ria

“too simple to believe..”

Since: Sep 07

Pakistan

#10 Sep 12, 2007
why islam or hinduism??
why you people take these names....why dont you say that its us the bloddy human beings who are the real culprits....
why we involve our religions for the dirty works we do....
the many problems you all have mentioned are common in both india and pakistan and other countries....
religion is not making us do that....we are the ones behind them.
i hope this thread will not become one of the others abusive threads....and you'll try to find ways to how to get rid of these corrupt things which are eating up our societies and moral values....if you are really that responsible.
enigma

Bangalore, India

#11 Sep 12, 2007
we dont care abt islam, but its considered as religion of concern now. cant trust any muslim even your very next door neighbour when he might turn out to be a jehadi (arabic term for crusader and translated as terrorist in english worldwide) islam haaa! its facing the threat of extinction.
the followers of islam are blind, physically and mentally.
osama(jehadi) allah's pimp, nothing but brand ambassador for terrorism.
pakistan(porkistan) unesco recognised world heritage site for terror camps.

here u go jehadis u have lot to cheer about ur religion!
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#12 Sep 13, 2007
enigma wrote:
we dont care abt islam, but its considered as religion of concern now. cant trust any muslim even your very next door neighbour when he might turn out to be a jehadi (arabic term for crusader and translated as terrorist in english worldwide) islam haaa! its facing the threat of extinction.
the followers of islam are blind, physically and mentally.
osama(jehadi) allah's pimp, nothing but brand ambassador for terrorism.
pakistan(porkistan) unesco recognised world heritage site for terror camps.
here u go jehadis u have lot to cheer about ur religion!
You are a an Islamophobe. You know nothing about Islam, it's history and it's followers. I'll recommend you read Islam in Focus by Hammudah Abdalati. Do your research.

“The last Saiyan”

Since: Aug 07

Chennai, India

#13 Sep 13, 2007
ask you r self how many people trapped in evil islam.
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#14 Sep 13, 2007
HYPERNOVAE wrote:
ask you r self how many people trapped in evil islam.
What is so evil about Islam? And muslims are not trapped by Islam, it gives them purpose and a sence of well spritual well-being.
True Indian

Arlington Heights, IL

#15 Sep 14, 2007
We dont need any ppl who r converted
we dont accept converted ppl

we r hindus.. we r 85 crores ...
we dont want more like u islam and christian

we dont believe to convert other religion ppl
we respect other reliogns and accept them in our country india that u can see in india.. we gave more rights to minority ppl

Nowadays we gave them reservation too..

So dont worry about hindus.. we were great..
we r great.. and we will be great..
True Indian

Arlington Heights, IL

#16 Sep 14, 2007
Hey mad naga
i told u dont worry abut our society and hidus...
we r ahead of u mad pakis or other muslims...

its better for u to be aware of this...
Mr Naga

Coatbridge, UK

#17 Sep 14, 2007
True Indian wrote:
Hey mad naga
i told u dont worry abut our society and hidus...
we r ahead of u mad pakis or other muslims...
its better for u to be aware of this...
I am only retaliating to comments made by Islamophobic hindus who know diddley squat about Islam.

ria

“too simple to believe..”

Since: Sep 07

Pakistan

#18 Sep 16, 2007
we are aware of this true indian. and we are not worried about you. we dont want anyone to convert. but it seems that you are worried about yourself. we are just talking casually. cant we conversate in a friendly manner.
you are ahead of us as you said. so the people who are ahead of someone should have a humble manner. no?
hindutva

Bangalore, India

#21 Sep 21, 2007
fck off naga.... your muslim community sucks in front of our generous Hindus
crazyblue8d

Summit, NJ

#22 Oct 2, 2007
how many people practice hinduism?

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