Pak raises Kashmir issue in UN, India protests

Nov 3, 2009 Full story: The Times of India 610

UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan raised the Kashmir issue at a meeting of the UN panel on humanitarian issues, prompting a strong response from the Indian side which said Islamabad has no right to raise the issue as Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India.

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Oak Park, CA

#1 Nov 4, 2009
India should stop protesting just ignore porkis & OIC both are as important as yesterday's newspaper..
Khan from Islamabd

Islamabad, Pakistan

#2 Nov 4, 2009
First who took Kashmir dispute into UN?
Why not India still resolve dispute after doing several mutual agreements on Kashmir between Pakistan and India.
India is just doing delay tactics in resolve and trying to converting local peoples in minority.

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Nehru, the Prime Minister of India, pursued a policy of deception, a rape of his own pious commitments and remained a perfect disciple of Hindu Political Statecraft i.e. Chanakiya. Dr. Ayyub Thukar makes an interesting comment:

" Sir Owen Dixon was once forced to affirm that, the fellow (Nehru) is lying. Others have said of him that in and out of office, he was fond of riding a high moral horse. He thereby not only threw dust in the eyes of the world, he also succeeded in deceiving himself. He finally arrived like a Humpty Dumpty, at the stage where words did not mean what they connoted, but what he said they meant".

The deception by the prominent successive Indian Leadership has been blasted off for good by the Nuclear Blasts in the sub-continent. The scenario in South Asia has changed. The entire world community now accepts that Kashmir is the root cause of bad blood between India and Pakistan. The carefully worked out strategy by India to put the Issue in the cold forever has failed. Kashmir has come into the limelight, despite all efforts by India to the contrary. It is time that India realises the gravity of the situation and tries honestly to end the sufferings of Kashmiris forever; who are fighting to gain liberty from Indian occupation.Ľ
Khan from Islamabd

Islamabad, Pakistan

#3 Nov 4, 2009
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís Telegram to British and Pakistan Prime Ministers, October 27, 1947.
"I should like to make it clear that the question of aiding Kashmir in this emergency is not designed in any way to influence the State to accede to India. Our view which we have repeatedly made public is that the question of accession in any disputed territory or State must be decided in accordance with the wishes of people, and we adhere to this view".
Lord Mountbatten, Governor General of India, replies to Maharaja's (alleged) request for accession to India, October 27, 1947.
"In consistence with their policy that in the case of any State where the issue of accession has been the subject of dispute the question of accession should be decided in accordance with the wishes of the people of the State, it is my Governmentís wish that as soon as law and order have been restored in Kashmir and her soil cleared of the invader, the question of Stateís accession should be settled by a reference to the people".
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís telegram to Prime Minister of Pakistan,
October 28,1947.
"In regard to accession also, it has been made clear that this is subject to reference to people of State and their decision".
Nehru, Indian Prime Minister's broadcast to nation from All India Radio, November 2, 1947.
"We have declared that the fate of Kashmir is ultimately to be decided by the people. That pledge we have given (and the Maharajah has supported it) not only to the people of Kashmir but to the world. We will not and cannot back out of it. We are prepared when peace and law and order have been established to have referendum held under international auspices like the UN We want it to be a fair and just reference to the people, and we shall accept their verdict. I can imagine no fairer and juster offer".
" We are anxious not to finalise anything in a moment of crisis and without the fullest opportunity to be given to the people of Kashmir to have their way. It is for them ultimately to decide".
" And let me make it clear that it has been our policy all along that where there is a dispute about the accession of a State to either Dominion, the accession must be made by the people of the State. It is in accordance with this policy that we have added to proviso to the instrument of accession of Kashmir".
Khan from Islamabd

Islamabad, Pakistan

#4 Nov 4, 2009
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís telegram to Pakistan Prime Minister,
November 4, 1947.
"I wish to draw your attention to broadcast on Kashmir which I made last evening. I have stated our Governmentís policy and made it clear that we have no desire to impose our will on Kashmir but to leave final decision to the people of Kashmir.
I further stated that we have agreed on impartial International agency like UN supervising any referendum".
"This principle we are prepared to apply to any state where there is a dispute about accession. If these principles are accepted by your Government there should be no difficulty in giving effect to them".
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís telegram to Prime Minister of Pakistan,
November 8, 1947.
".... where the State has not acceded to that Dominion whose majority community is the same as Stateís, the question whether State has finally acceded to one or other Dominion should be ascertained by reference to the will of people".
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís letter to Prime Minister of Pakistan,
November 21, 1947.
"Kashmir should decide question of accession by plebiscite or referendum under international auspices such as those of United Nations".
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís statement in Indian Constituent Assembly, November 25, 1947.
"In order to establish our bonafides, we have suggested that when the people are given the chance to decide their future, this should be done under the supervision of an impartial tribunal such as the United Nations Organisation. The issue in Kashmir is whether violence and naked force should decide the future or the will of the people".
Nehru, Indian Prime Ministerís telegram to Pakistan Prime Minister,
December 12, 1947.
"We have given further thought, in the light of our discussion in Lahore, to the question of inviting UN to advise us in this matter. While we are prepared to invite UNO observers to come here and advise us as to proposed plebiscite, it is not clear in what other capacity the UN help can be sought...
"... I confess, however, that I find myself unable to suggest anything beyond what I have offered already, namely, to ask UNO to send impartial observers to advise us regarding the plebiscite."

Since: Sep 09

Pune, India

#6 Nov 4, 2009
It will be interesting to wait and watch whether the "Kashmir issue" lasts longer than Parkistan itself. Haa haa...

Parkistan - A failed nation on its death bed, breathing its last, gasping for breath, chants "kashmir ...kashmir..." instead of "paani ...paani..".

And wait a moment, the Balochistan shit has not fully blown yet.
Khan from Islamabd

Islamabad, Pakistan

#7 Nov 4, 2009
Sir Benegal Rau, at Security Council, February 7, 1950.
" It is therefore clear that the admission of representatives from any particular State into the Indian Constituent Assembly did not necessarily imply accession. As I have said, Kashmir had this right to representation ever since April 1947; it acceded tentatively, in October 1947 so that the accession came after the grant of the right and not the other way round".
Telegram from Indian Prime Minister Nehru to UN Representative for India and Pakistan, August 16, 1950.
"We have not opposed at any time an overall plebiscite for the State as a whole but you made some alternative suggestions because you came to the conclusion that there were no prospects of an agreement as to conditions preliminary to such a plebiscite....
"We have always recognised that any plan for a plebiscite should be such that the people concerned would be enabled to express their feelings freely and without fear....
"It has always been our view that, in the event of a plebiscite, the people of Kashmir should decide their future for themselves. Kashmiris who have gone out of the State should, of course, be entitled to return for this purpose. But I do not think that others have any claim to participate in a plebiscite campaign."
B. N. Rao in Security Council, March 29, 1951.
"The Constituent Assembly* cannot be physically prevented from expressing an opinion on this question if it so chooses. But this opinion will not bind my Government or prejudice the position of this Council."
* Which was to be convened by the Kashmir National Conference for deciding the accession issue - ED.
Krishna Menon, Indian Representative at UN General Assembly, referring to Congo Problem, April 5, 1951.
"Irrespective of the voting of this resolution, an abstention or two, the fact is that is the law of the United Nations at the present time.... My government has always taken the view that resolutions, if they are passed, must be implemented."
Letter of September 11, 1951 addressed to the UN Representative for
India and Pakistan.
"As regards paragraph 4, the Government of India not only reaffirms its acceptance of the principle that the question of the continuing accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India shall be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite under the auspices of the United Nations, but is anxious that the conditions necessary for such a plebiscite should be created as quickly as possible."
Khan from Islamabd

Islamabad, Pakistan

#8 Nov 4, 2009
Letter from Indian Prime Minister Nehru to UN Representative for India and Pakistan, September 11, 1951.
"... The Government of India agree that the Plebiscite Administrator should be appointed as soon as conditions in the State, on both sides of the cease-fire line, permit of a start being made with the arrangements for carrying out the plebiscite. To appoint the Plebiscite Administrator before would be premature.
"The Government of India would, therefore, prefer such a proposal to be omitted from the present document; it would be more appropriately included in proposals that deal specifically and in detail with the holding of the plebiscite and connected matters."
Mrs. Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit, at Security Council, December 8, 1952.
"We do not seek to go behind the UNCIP resolutions, or to ignore the vital elements of principle contained in them... We have always adhered to the UNCIP resolutions.... We cannot be a party to the reversal of previous decisions taken by the United Nations Commission with the agreement of the parties."
Krishna Menon, at Security Council, January 24, 1957.
"... I want to say for the purpose of the record that there is nothing that has been said on behalf of the Government of India which in the slightest degree indicates that the Government of India or the Union of India will dishonour any international obligations it has undertaken."
Krishna Menon, at Security Council, February 8, 1957.
"It is possible, for any sovereign state to cede territory. If, as a result of a plebiscite, the people decided that they did not want to stay with India, then our duty at that time would be to adopt those constitutional procedures which would enable us to separate that territory."
Krishna Menon, at Security Council, February 20, 1957.
"The resolutions of January 17, 1948 and the resolutions of the UNCIP, the assurance given, these are all resolutions which carry a greater weight - that is because we have accepted them, we are parties to them, whether we like them or not."
Krishna Menon, at Security Council, October 9, 1957.
"...These documents (UNCIP reports) and declarations and the resolutions of the Security Council are decisions; they are resolutions, there has been some resolving of a question of one character or another, there has been a meeting of minds on this question where we have committed ourselves to it."
Krishna Menon, referring to Goa, The Statesman, Delhi, January 19, 1962.
" India believes that sovereignty rests in the people and should return to them."

“truth always wins”

Since: Jul 09

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#9 Nov 4, 2009
dear khan,
you have sent a collection of things what important leaders of india has said on kashmir. i would like to visit the related link .please send me the links.
now after that i am sending the further developments.
1. pakistan has never vacated the POK as per the UN resolution.
2. Pakistan had unilaterally devided the POK and declared that northern areas are not pat of kashmir.
3. pakistan had unilaterally handed over a part of territory of kashmir to china.
4. report have indicated that even pakistan has changed the demography of POK.
5. pakistan had attacked kashmir in 1965 to grab the land but the kashmiris informed the indian army of the move and the mission failed completely.
6.paksitan had signed simla agreement after her defeat in 1971 but didnot hounoured it later.
7. pakistan had started the terrorist movement and it led to sufferings of kashmiri. the terrorism is now in it's lowest ebb.
8. pakistan had entered into kargil violating all laws and agreements but was thrown out.
dear you have been cring on this issue but have never tried to give people of kashmir a chance. however the resolution on referendum is no more relevant and even kofi annan had said it on record. you are just raisng the issue to grab ind occupy indian territory. tell me when your are living pok?

“truth always wins”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#10 Nov 4, 2009
leaving pok
Danger Warrior

Pakistan

#11 Nov 4, 2009
Aaj Nahi to Kal, India ko Kashmir Ko Free Karna hi paray gay, Warna Uska Haal Bhi wohi hoo ga jo USSR ka howa.
Indian Governent jis tezi say India mein Freedom fighters par apni girift kho rahi hay, wo kisi say dhaki chupi bat nahi, Indian ki 27 states mein Freedom fighter AZADI kalya lar rahay hay.

Bas Kuch Saal Aur phir, There will be no Indian. UNO add more 27 STATES.
INSHALLAH.

“truth always wins”

Since: Jul 09

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#12 Nov 4, 2009
Danger Warrior wrote:
Aaj Nahi to Kal, India ko Kashmir Ko ..........
INSHALLAH.
dear DW,
ajj daru thoda jida hogaya hai. so jao
hindu from patna

Mumbai, India

#13 Nov 4, 2009
Danger Warrior wrote:
Aaj Nahi to Kal, India ko Kashmir Ko Free Karna hi paray gay, Warna Uska Haal Bhi wohi hoo ga jo USSR ka howa.
Indian Governent jis tezi say India mein Freedom fighters par apni girift kho rahi hay, wo kisi say dhaki chupi bat nahi, Indian ki 27 states mein Freedom fighter AZADI kalya lar rahay hay.
Bas Kuch Saal Aur phir, There will be no Indian. UNO add more 27 STATES.
INSHALLAH.
future battne ka naya danda kola hai kya.USA ko FOOL banaho paise millege INDIA ko pakistan maat samjo.aur apni ammi ke saat so jaho nahi to TALIBAN aa jaye ga.
wassup

Mumbai, India

#14 Nov 4, 2009
debasis behera wrote:
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dear DW,
ajj daru thoda jida hogaya hai. so jao
nahi re debu....dw ne mera urine jada pii liya..!!!!tabi tho itna bakwaas kar raha hai!!!
Danger Warrior

Pakistan

#15 Nov 4, 2009
hindu from patna, wassup

Oyee peen choodo , maa ko mujh say chodwana hay to inta JHIJHAK kyoo rahay hoo, seedhi tarha kahoo kay Danger warrior hamari maa behno ko chod do, mein chod doo ga, wasay bhi Bagera ka mutabiq meinay DARU zyada piya howa hay, lehaza zyda time lagaoo ga, to phi sooch kya rahay hoo, laooo apni maa behnoo ko.

“truth always wins”

Since: Jul 09

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#17 Nov 5, 2009
wassup wrote:
<quoted text>
nahi re debu....dw ne mera urine jada pii liya..!!!!tabi tho itna bakwaas kar raha hai!!!
ho..........ho..........ho.... ......
ha........ha...ha..........
Unbelievable

Mumbai, India

#18 Nov 5, 2009
Its just too hard to believe..How can one dig up one's own grave the way porkis are doing... Dont they have more important issues in hand other than Kashmir...Their own ppl are getting killed and all these failed morons can think abt is Kashmir..Am sure even if their daughters,sisters and mums are getting raped they will still think of only freakin Kashmir...Utterly unbelievable...
hindu from patna

Indore, India

#19 Nov 5, 2009
Danger Warrior wrote:
hindu from patna, wassup
Oyee peen choodo , maa ko mujh say chodwana hay to inta JHIJHAK kyoo rahay hoo, seedhi tarha kahoo kay Danger warrior hamari maa behno ko chod do, mein chod doo ga, wasay bhi Bagera ka mutabiq meinay DARU zyada piya howa hay, lehaza zyda time lagaoo ga, to phi sooch kya rahay hoo, laooo apni maa behnoo ko.
iski toh ammi chod gayi TALLIBAN se kaha tha so jane ko lekin ammi ko chudte dehke kaa sock tha lekin TALLIBAN ne iski ghand vi marr lee.dard ke mare pagal ho gaya.
Danger Warrior

Pakistan

#20 Nov 5, 2009
debasis behera wrote:
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ho..........ho..........ho.... ......
ha........ha...ha..........
S.H.E.M.A.L.E Bahera
Tu kya Hijro ki tarha haha hhoho kar raha hay
Aaj kal koob motay tazay PUNJABIAN doondh raha hay jo teri Gand mar sakay kyoo kay S.H.E.M.A.L.E Gand hi marwatay hay.

“truth always wins”

Since: Jul 09

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#21 Nov 5, 2009
Danger Warrior wrote:
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S.H.E.M.A.L.E Bahera
Tu kya Hijro ki tarha haha hhoho kar raha hay
Aaj kal koob motay tazay PUNJABIAN doondh raha hay jo teri Gand mar sakay kyoo kay S.H.E.M.A.L.E Gand hi marwatay hay.
ajj phir pia hai. har din mat pina
Danger Warrior

Pakistan

#22 Nov 5, 2009
debasis behera wrote:
<quoted text>
ajj phir pia hai. har din mat pina
Tu Jhoot bolna choor day, Bas agar tu mari yahi baat man lay to tu Duniya mein bhi Sakoon paa lay ga aur Marnay kay baad bhi tujh ko sakoon milay ga.

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