Nizam's heirs seek Pakistani intervention to unfreeze bank account

Jul 20, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Newkerala.com

By Mohammed Shafeeq, Hyderabad, July 20 : The descendants of the Nizam have appealed to Pakistan to reciprocate to India's offer of an out-of-court settlement over the wealth of the ruler of erstwhile Hyderabad state lying locked up in a London bank for over 60 years.

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dear Parvez,
have read the post . now please tell me what exactly you want to convey ?
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dear Parvez,
have read the post . now please tell me what exactly you want to convey ?
Personally I do not mind if Deccan remains to be a part of India. The Muslims of Hyderabad are cultured and progressive people and can co-exist with their Hindu countrymen. They are proud to be Indian Muslims.
However, the struggle to liberate Kashmir must continue at every cost till the people of Kashmir are free and liberated from the clutches of India. Kashmir has nothing to do with India. If you do not beieve me, remove your 700,000 armed Indian army from Kashmir, and see for yourself how the people of Kashmir would announce their Independence.
However, my humble suggestion is to declare Kashmir as an independent state allowing it to keep good relations with both countries. It will be a good buffer state between India and Pakistan. It will help develop good relations between both countries. Let the Hindus and Muslims co-exist in Kashmir.
India will in this way save a lot of military funds which are expended to control the uprising in the state of Kashmir.
What do you thin debasis?

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Personally I do not mind if Deccan remains to be a part of India. The Muslims of Hyderabad are cultured and progressive people and can co-exist with their Hindu countrymen. They are proud to be Indian Muslims.
However, the struggle to liberate Kashmir must continue at every cost till the people of Kashmir are free and liberated from the clutches of India. Kashmir has nothing to do with India. If you do not beieve me, remove your 700,000 armed Indian army from Kashmir, and see for yourself how the people of Kashmir would announce their Independence.
However, my humble suggestion is to declare Kashmir as an independent state allowing it to keep good relations with both countries. It will be a good buffer state between India and Pakistan. It will help develop good relations between both countries. Let the Hindus and Muslims co-exist in Kashmir.
India will in this way save a lot of military funds which are expended to control the uprising in the state of Kashmir.
What do you thin debasis?
I am thinning what has happened to my answer ?????????? to your post. ok forget it , please send me some links on latest sufi songs of pakistanis. i like sufi songs. yaar jhagda kuch din baad karenge.
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Now is the right time for India and Pakistan to go to war.
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Now is the right time for India and Pakistan to go to war.
A war is defined as Arrogance fighting against Ignorance.
Look what happened to America - the most powerful arrogant country of the world. America owes its candy little ass to China, as it has borrowed trillions of dollars to China.
America has commited serious human rights violations as if nobody is watching. But there is a God who does not appreciate the genocide of the innocents. God punishes war mongers and criminals somehow.
A war between India and Pakistan would kill millions of innocent poor people. There would be so many helpless orphan children and widows.
So, please wether you are a Pakistani (Hindu or Muslim) or an Indian (Muslim or Hindu) never think of war as a solution to Peace.
Remember the old saying "Peace does not come through the barrels of guns".

I request all he civilized people on this Board to stop using vulgar words like Sita be ke yxxi or Allah ka laXXdX. Hindus and Muslims must learn to co-exist in Peace and Harmony.
We have shared a common history and culture. We have sent the Colonialists back to their cold dreary country.

Please contribute to Peace and Human values in the world
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I am thinning what has happened to my answer ?????????? to your post. ok forget it , please send me some links on latest sufi songs of pakistanis. i like sufi songs. yaar jhagda kuch din baad karenge.
debasis:
Per your request, I am presenting the songs of Sufi Queen, Abeda Parveen- the pride of Pakistan.
Enjoy, I hope the link opens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Proposed Flag of Hyderabad or Azad Deccan Movement

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Proposed Flag of Hyderabad or Azad Deccan Movement
really?????????? please inform us further. thanks
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Extremist Hindus and Zionists are basically little and coward people as is evident from the contents of this Board. They must learn to co-exist with the Arabs and Muslim countries. The sick-minded Extremist Hindus show abnormal amount of vulgar hatred against the Pakistanis and Islam hiding behind their Computer monitors. These are a bunch of coward and stupid people who have no guts to look into the eyes of a Muslim and say negative and vulgar words to any Muslim.
This Board should be monitored by a Federal agency and all those who are writing obscenaties should be brought into the court.
Who is sponsoring this Board? Please investigate Momin bhai as I intend to file a law suit against them. We need to either shut down this Board or lay down some basic civil rules to write on this Board.

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Extremist Hindus and Zionists are basically little and coward people as is evident from the contents of this Board. They must learn to co-exist with the Arabs and Muslim countries. The sick-minded Extremist Hindus show abnormal amount of vulgar hatred against the Pakistanis and Islam hiding behind their Computer monitors. These are a bunch of coward and stupid people who have no guts to look into the eyes of a Muslim and say negative and vulgar words to any Muslim.
This Board should be monitored by a Federal agency and all those who are writing obscenaties should be brought into the court.
Who is sponsoring this Board? Please investigate Momin bhai as I intend to file a law suit against them. We need to either shut down this Board or lay down some basic civil rules to write on this Board.
Dear Parvez,
please give me the name and address of the federal agency so that I can file a complaint. Yes i am sure that Momin bhai would help us.

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momin bhai ,
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HERITAGE: The Nizam’s worth
By Omar Khalidi
The Indian army’s advanced guard was still about a hundred miles from Secunderabad during the Operation Polo on September 16, 1948 when Hyderabad’s agent-general in London Mir Nawaz Jang (d. 1996) met Habib Ibrahim Rahimtoola (1912-91), Pakistan’s High Commissioner, at his residence in Hampstead.
He requested him to accept transfer of funds to a Pakistani account. Present on the occasion was Sir Muhammad Zafarullah Khan, Pakistan’s Foreign Minister. Sir Zafarullah directed Rahimtoola to accept the offer and Rahimtoola signed the bank deposit form.
Four days later on September 20 Mir Nawaz Jang presented a letter written by his boss Moin Nawaz Jang (1900-87), Hyderabad’s Finance & Foreign Minister to the National Westminster (Natwest) Bank seeking transfer of funds. The bank accepted and notified the parties concerned.
The amount was £1, 0007, 940 and nine shillings. Today it is estimated to be around £30 million. Moin Nawaz Jang was then in Paris attending the Security Council meeting hearing Hyderabad’s case overruling Indian objections. Meanwhile, the Hyderabad State Force formally surrendered during a military ceremony signed by Maj-Gen J. N. Chaudhuri on behalf of India and Maj Syed Ahmad El-Edroos on behalf of Hyderabad. No longer reigning, the Nizam issued a firman directing all Hyderabad officials abroad to return to India. He also cabled the bank requesting no withdrawals from his account. There lies the key to the triangular dispute over the Nizam’s funds. Moin Nawaz Jang’s motive was clear: to deny funds to India, who he believed was usurping his master’s kingdom.
Did the account in the bank belong to the Nizam personally or to the Hyderabad State? Before the absorption of princely states, the two were not always clear. Deeming it state funds, India, as the successor state, claimed the funds and asked its transfer in 1950, while Rahimtoola, now made his country’s ambassador to France, asked the money to be transferred to his London successor M.A.H. Ispahani.
The bank refused citing the Nizam’s instructions and Indian claim. It rejected Indian claims too as the Nizam had created a trust known as the Nova Scotia Trust Company in Bahamas in the name of Mukarram Jah and Mukhaffam Jah, his grandsons. Rebuffed by the bank and the Nizam’s move, India filed a suit in a London court. Judge Gerald Upjohn ruled in 1956 that the Nizam held the title to the money, not India, while Pakistan had no “equitable title.” But,“since he (the Nizam) could reach the debt only through Rahimtoola,” Pakistan had to be involved now that the money was in its High Commissioner’s name on bank records.
The operating part of Judge Gerald Upjohn’s ruling was simple: the transaction was inter-governmental; it could only be solved through intergovernmental negotiations. But the matter did not end there, as the case dragged on.
In November 1957, the House of Lords held that Pakistan was the “legal owner” of the funds without having “the equitable title” or the “beneficial interest,” which vested in the Nizam. The three parties to the money dispute were back to square one: tripartite negotiation could result in an agreement forcing the bank to disburse the funds. In that spirit Jawaharlal Nehru agreed to do so at a meeting with President Ayub Khan in Karachi in 1960 on 60-40 basis. So did Prime Minister Morarji Desai with President Ziaul Haq in October 1979; so agreed Atal Behari Vajpayee’s cabinet on September 11, 2001!

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HERITAGE: The Nizam’s worth
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The Indian army’s advanced guard was still about a hundred miles ..........
cabinet on September 11, 2001!
what is the present status as per the author?
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Per your request, I am presenting the songs of Sufi Queen, Abeda Parveen- the pride of Pakistan.
Enjoy, I hope the link opens:
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Abeda the old fat lady looks like a prostitute .
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The Decade's old long Struggle will going to impact ...
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Pakistan always in support of peaceful settlement of Hyderabad Deccan Stat

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mICHEAL wrote:
Pakistan always in support of peaceful settlement of Hyderabad Deccan Stat
sta?????????? micheal bahi, yaar pahele apni Pakistan ko teek karo aur uske baad dusra kuch sochna.
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Hyderabad Deccan is Pakistan also & we are very concerned over situation there

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Clark wrote:
Hyderabad Deccan is Pakistan also & we are very concerned over situation there
Thanks dear for your concern. As you consider it as Pakistan , please let us know about the situation there so that we indians can help to reduce your concern.
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The real concern right now is The Indian Funded Supported TTP Talibans at North Pakistan

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