Pakistan demands US nuclear deal

Oct 2, 2008 Full story: BBC 49

Pakistan has said that India's civilian nuclear trade agreement with the US should open the way for a similar deal with Islamabad.

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Since: Oct 08

Karachi, Pakistan

#46 Oct 10, 2008
MisterWyte wrote:
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You really think pulling down that secular regime and allowing Islamists (whether they are in the judiciary or not) to take over will really help you??
Plus working with the U.S. will help your economy over time, it's not like you can have unencumbered trade with India!
Whatever, it seems like all Pakistanis want to be feared or a tough guy. See how well that works out for you, it's not working out well for the U.S.
Seriously think about dumping Islam too, that evil ideology is like a millstone around the neck for progress and economic growth.
the peoples will must prevail if they have beards or pray 5 times a day its their personal matter besides majority are muslims and are proud to be muslim wy shud we leave our religion an america doesnt really care abut us if the "war on terror" had ended by now we would hav been treated like u ppl treat sudan and all those other african countries
harminder

Pune, India

#47 Oct 11, 2008
MisterWyte wrote:
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Why the hell are Pakistanis and Indians interested in nukes to use against each other??
If France and Germany can bury the hatchet, Pakistanis and Indians can do it.


the french and germans DONT have islam in their way. thats why they buried the hatchet

pakis are muslims, islamists. these barbarians are illiterate violent and rabid

Since: Sep 08

Fairfax, VA

#48 Oct 11, 2008
haji atiya wrote:
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I agree with a lot you're saying. But, BTW, if you know anything about Islamic finance and banking, the US and the other Western economies wouldn't be in such a mess if they followed such an approach...
Islamic banking doesn't allow for access to credit at the level needed to fuel business in the western world, or anywhere else for that matter. In fact we don't even know if islamic banking would be possible in today's advanced arab states because they operate under very strict conditions and have the western banking system as the default to work around. They don't even use islamic banking practices when dealing with many western companies in foreign deals, so it's rather a moot point.

Extolling islamic banking is just something muslims do in order to prop up their self esteem, and westerners indulge them to seem "p.c." and to gain access to business.

Their are even Islamic banking practices used in the U.S by American banks when dealing with muslim customers. It's to keep their business from going to a muslim bank, their competitors.

But when you look at it, the fees charged add up to de facto interest payments.

Housing speculation as an engine for the economy was one of the major factors in the crisis, not the haram practice of charging interest.

Plus even sub-prime rates are tame in comparison to interest rates and fees in other parts of the world, it was giving loans to RISKY individuals and corporations that really did us in.

Now we'll revert back to the pre-1994 credit standards and the congressional black congress and other liberal groups will complain saying it's discriminatory and against The American Dream to make it that difficult for people to own their home, and the standards will be lopsened again.

It's funny how the same black caucus that pressured for these "discriminatory" lending standards to be relaxed votes for bailing out the corporations because there wasn't enough in it for African Americans.

We're voting the BASTARD Obama in to office and he's received the 2nd highest amount of donations from Fannie Mae out of anyone in Congress, and has 2 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives as campaign advisors?

I'm a veteran and have served my country in other ways, but I will make use of my dual citizenship and leave the country if he is elected. The choice of candidates really disgusts me, but the media manipulation in favor of Obama is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Since: Sep 08

Fairfax, VA

#49 Oct 11, 2008
muhammad zaka wrote:
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the peoples will must prevail if they have beards or pray 5 times a day its their personal matter besides majority are muslims and are proud to be muslim wy shud we leave our religion an america doesnt really care abut us if the "war on terror" had ended by now we would hav been treated like u ppl treat sudan and all those other african countries
How do we treat Sudan?

Since: Oct 08

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#50 Oct 11, 2008
good joke

Since: Sep 08

Fairfax, VA

#51 Oct 11, 2008
harminder wrote:
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the french and germans DONT have islam in their way. thats why they buried the hatchet
pakis are muslims, islamists. these barbarians are illiterate violent and rabid
But they've killed far more of each other than Indians and Punjabis, and their last war utterly shattered their countries and empires.

I understand that religion plays apart, and the partition makes things worse correct?

I also hear that muslims encourage their sons to go out and marry sikh girls and hindu girls in order to bolster their numbers, whilst making it impossible to do the reverse. It's tribal expanisonism, which is why we here in the West are waking up to the enemy that Islam is to us.

Unfortunately the people have woken up, but the politicians have not, including many conservatives.

But it would solve a lot of problems if the Pakistanis converted or became totally secular, it was a religion brought by foreigners anyway--what good is Islam, but Arab cultural imperialism. They say Quran is defiled if it's not in Arabic, so you must suck up to them.

Yes in Islam everyone is equal, as long as you conform and assimilate to Islam.

What was Muhammed? He was a cunning warlord, who through the spiritual did something that was impossible with normal agreements and decrees: Unite the disparate Arab tribes under his banner.

If they hadn't arrived on the scene to attack weakened and superior civilizations, they would still be a bunch of nomads and petty traders.

Since: Oct 08

Karachi, Pakistan

#52 Oct 12, 2008
MisterWyte wrote:
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But they've killed far more of each other than Indians and Punjabis, and their last war utterly shattered their countries and empires.
I understand that religion plays apart, and the partition makes things worse correct?
I also hear that muslims encourage their sons to go out and marry sikh girls and hindu girls in order to bolster their numbers, whilst making it impossible to do the reverse. It's tribal expanisonism, which is why we here in the West are waking up to the enemy that Islam is to us.
Unfortunately the people have woken up, but the politicians have not, including many conservatives.
But it would solve a lot of problems if the Pakistanis converted or became totally secular, it was a religion brought by foreigners anyway--what good is Islam, but Arab cultural imperialism. They say Quran is defiled if it's not in Arabic, so you must suck up to them.
Yes in Islam everyone is equal, as long as you conform and assimilate to Islam.
What was Muhammed? He was a cunning warlord, who through the spiritual did something that was impossible with normal agreements and decrees: Unite the disparate Arab tribes under his banner.
If they hadn't arrived on the scene to attack weakened and superior civilizations, they would still be a bunch of nomads and petty traders.
yeah....right it sure helps dialogue when u disparage sum1's religion with baseless arguments
haji atiya

Bangkok, Thailand

#54 Oct 12, 2008
MisterWyte wrote:
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Islamic banking doesn't allow for access to credit at the level needed to fuel business in the western world, or anywhere else for that matter. In fact we don't even know if islamic banking would be possible in today's advanced arab states because they operate under very strict conditions and have the western banking system as the default to work around. They don't even use islamic banking practices when dealing with many western companies in foreign deals, so it's rather a moot point.
Extolling islamic banking is just something muslims do in order to prop up their self esteem, and westerners indulge them to seem "p.c." and to gain access to business.
Their are even Islamic banking practices used in the U.S by American banks when dealing with muslim customers. It's to keep their business from going to a muslim bank, their competitors.
But when you look at it, the fees charged add up to de facto interest payments.
Housing speculation as an engine for the economy was one of the major factors in the crisis, not the haram practice of charging interest.
Plus even sub-prime rates are tame in comparison to interest rates and fees in other parts of the world, it was giving loans to RISKY individuals and corporations that really did us in.
Now we'll revert back to the pre-1994 credit standards and the congressional black congress and other liberal groups will complain saying it's discriminatory and against The American Dream to make it that difficult for people to own their home, and the standards will be lopsened again.
It's funny how the same black caucus that pressured for these "discriminatory" lending standards to be relaxed votes for bailing out the corporations because there wasn't enough in it for African Americans.
We're voting the BASTARD Obama in to office and he's received the 2nd highest amount of donations from Fannie Mae out of anyone in Congress, and has 2 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives as campaign advisors?
I'm a veteran and have served my country in other ways, but I will make use of my dual citizenship and leave the country if he is elected. The choice of candidates really disgusts me, but the media manipulation in favor of Obama is the straw that broke the camel's back.
The crux of what you are saying is "..at the level to fuel business in the western world"
Basically you want to fuel an unregulated and
environmentally unsustainable extreme level of capitalism. The current global financial crisis
has revived nightmares of the 1997 Asian financial crisis. Particularly vivid in memory is former PM Mahathir of Malaysia who refered to the role of western financial terrorists as they profit from the misery of millions and walk free !
The hypocrisy and double standards that dominated the world order in 1997 are still around today. So much for western transparency and accountability ! Bunch of suits who have an amazing ability to lie with pious expressions on their faces !

Since: Oct 08

Karachi, Pakistan

#55 Oct 14, 2008
MisterWyte wrote:
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How do we treat Sudan?
lets face it no 1 cares about the poor african countries xept for the clowns at the un no1 would know whre pak is if it wasnt fr war on terror now evrybody thinks were a bunch of terrorists and its all thanks to america

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