No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

[number four]

Dragnet52 wrote:

As if I need the prodding of a bore like imi2000 to appear here. He tried in vain to make me appear for the last four days, even unleashing his own IDs where he abuses himself, so as to give him the pretext to abuse me.

..well..whatever is going on...I'm confused ,and suspect of, even the post's written by my own hand ..

[number four]

Tyr Bloodaxe wrote:

Pakistan was created in 1947...over the spilled blood and tears of millions of Hindus and Sikhs ...
The curses of those unfortunate souls as of millions of others killed over centuries by Muslim in name of "faith" and 'religion" ..is bearing fruit...
chaos murder mayhem and disintegration of Pakistan the Republic of Evil....
http://dawn.com/2012/12/29/blast-at-karachi-r...

....HAAAAPPY...NEW..YEAR..!!!! ...Karachi...!!!..getting it started with a blast..!!!

[number four]

Neville Thompson wrote:

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You have no idea what you are talking about.
You are making out that this is a scripted phenomena only allowed by the likes of you and your Muhammad's Islam and that the ending finishes with you.
Office and position of prophet ?
How idiotic.
You are a joke upon yourself that you believe what you say.

..uh oh..It's medication time....

Please, "Thompson Neville" when communicating with the Almighty , refrain from doing so in the capacity of a consultant ...g'day ..

[HAJI KAJI]

Just call them Muslims- stateless terrorists- and everything falls in place !

number four wrote:

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.."MUQ"..@.."lM l2000"...
Your well thought out admonition ,has been delivered too late ...as, I doubt anyone even believes "lMl2000" was a Hindu, or even an Indian National ....

[HAJI KAJI]

Pakistan is in a Classic state any Muslim country is destined to. See the top news from last few days-

1) Sunnis killed many Shias to prove again that Islam is a peaceful religion.

2) Taliban Killed Paki Paramilitary forces personnel – 21 , in one day- just to prove Taliban rules Kattulands !

3) People at home are being killed by even cough syrup even .

If somebody is counting the number of only Kattu heads rolled this year by Kattus the number will be in thousands And MUQ ChutiA says – Peacefully kattu religion cost only 400 heads!

[lMl2000]

HAJI KAJI wrote:

Oh……Chinkoo War-Tech reminds me- Chinkoos can make anything , till you don’t ask them to show it working ! Recently driving down along the Yangtze bank I saw from a distance a amzing scene – a beautifully crafted , brand new Air Craft Carrier Parked in shore. I asked my host how the world doesn’t know about it ? He shied and said – Saar we are going to have dinner there……you can mention later to your countrymen about the beauty of it.
It was a fkng restaurant made of cement!
I tell you Chaddi in crisis when Pakis press the red button and with popping out eyes watch the screen to monitor – they will find they have just switched on a Video game and screen is yelling – fckrs if you wanna play, first buy a toggle board from Tao Bao !
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"Deception and Disinformation" theme is expected out of good fighters and China is definitely one. A well planned military operation involves deception - although you are competent, appear to be incompetent or effective, appear to be ineffective. Do not forget that China fought United States for 20 years in Vietnam and didn't fold tents right until end. Vietnam still haunts US for not winning this war.

In a war perfidy and ruses are defined as the use of camouflage, decoys, mock operations and misinformation intended to mislead an adversary or to induce him to act recklessly.

"Although the use of fraud in any action is detestable, yet in the combat of war it is praiseworthy and glorious. And a man who uses fraud to overcome his enemy is praised, just as much as he who overcomes his enemy by force" - Machiavelli -

[lMl2000]

Neville Thompson wrote:

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The next time it happens ,laugh in the direction of Pakistan for they being an Islamic country that they have to rely on infidels for their protection.

I didn't understand this post of yours? However I would like to answer it preemptively - Between Pakistan and India, Pakistanis are battle hardened toughened fighting force and after the induction of weapons of mass destruction, they have nullified our conventional superiority over them. These guys have been fighting a war since December 2001 when American led forces assembled on their door steps to counter Afghanistan / Taliban. Their new foes, Taliban, don't take prisoners so the fight with them is for life and death. Brutal methods are used to overcome daily challenges and no punches are pulled.

Eyeball to eyeball showdown, in the wake of our parliament bombing, forced us to blink and withdraw our forces back to barracks as Indian army planners were aware (and also informed by the British and Americans) that Pakistanis would not hesitate in using their nukes.

Do read this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/p...

and a recent clip from our own newspapers would give you more insight.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewD...

PS: I am presenting credible links and analysis on issues I discuss that make India look like a nation of wimps therefore everyone jumps on me accusing me of being a Pakistani, a Muslim or both ! By doing so it relieves them from a bigger admission to acknowledge that India is a nation of wimps after all.

[Gauco]

Hijab women stink from rotten tuna fish that was muhammad"s left over after allah kicked muhammads ass out of shack in the dessert that muhammad shared with his stinky camel and the donkey ,

[lMl2000]

harminder wrote:

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a patriotic pakistan muslim speaks out with hate towards india
))
pakistan can never ever beat india in a conventional war
indias infantry and armored units have more critical mass and thrust power than any paki army unit/s.also indian army outnumbers pakistan 10 to 1
pakistan will be forced to use nukes in any war with india because the indian army will occupy entire swathes of land in the lahore, sialkot, kasur, gujranwala , rahimyar khan and bahwalpur sectors in pakistan.These areas except lahore sector are thinly defended.
international pressure on pakistan will be high at that time
an indian nuclear retaliation from TRIAD units can annihilate pakistan because 200 nukes will rain on pakistan and even mecca.(saudi arabia, syria,jordan and egypt will rush to aid pakistan without doubt)
pakistan will at the most destroy two or max three indian cities

I think you didn't read the article on Indian nuclear scientists so your blabber in this direction is nothing but a brain fart.

Harminder, I am confronting Indians with daunting questions and instead of replying me, your first or concluding sentence is that I am a patriotic Pakistani Muslim who speaks out with hate towards India !!! What a baloney !

You are not the only one but each and every "Hindu" (Indian) says that in almost every post of his. You know what this indicates? It indicates that you do not have a credible defence against my onslaught so you resort to attacking me personally.

I also get personal but then those are my purely personal posts. You may not have realized but I have asked you some pertinent questions about your stay in Malcha Marg which you have failed to answer neither you have answered "voice of India"'s post where he has asked you some more questions - You can't answer them as you are faking everything about your school and residency of Delhi. On the other side, I can challenge anyone to take me on any knowledge about any nook and corner of Delhi and ask me any question to check my knowledge on Hinduism - and do that live. I can come on any live chat where you can ask me impromptu questions and I would give you on the spot answers.

[lMl2000]

Neville Thompson wrote:

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Do those Chinese rockets come with a warranty ?

LOL ! Forget warranty - Pakistanis have even a better deal ! They don't have to pay anything for them. Entire nuclear arsenal from China has come in the form of aid. China covertly is an enemy of India and has a long running border dispute. Pakistani territory is an added advantage in encircling India from the western frontiers so that Indian defence remains thinned out at all given times. China-ready-to-fire-deadly-nuk es on Pakistani territory remain a credible threat that every Indian military man has realized and is forced to acknowledge it by not attacking Pakistan despite of our cities being sprayed with their agents and parliament being bombed and territories being snatched.

I have asked this question on many occasions but not a single Indian can answer as to why Pakistan has not returned one of the highest Kargil peak back to us that they snatched in 1999?

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/near-tiger-...

and watch this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[lMl2000]

steadyfreind wrote:

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Bai Chongxi was a Chinese general in the National Revolutionary Army of the Republic of China (ROC) and a prominent Chinese Nationalist Muslim leader and in to day's politburo of China, all the ministers of national defence are from his region. So, technically Pakistan does get arms from a Fidel source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bai_Chongxi

Good post. or rebuttal ! China has a deep vested interest in Iranian oil fields and has sent about 8000 soldiers for guarding those against Israeli attacks. Chinese are ruthless business community and for now it is being observed that their tight politburo that controls and runs China has many Muslim members who run their interest with the Islamic countries. Chinese themselves hate Muslim fundamentalism but are forced to shake hands with them to gain their energy and defence needs.

[lMl2000]

Dak-original wrote:

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"US" ? LOLL IMI 2000!

Just because I defer in views from the Hindus here doesn't make me a Pakistani or a Muslim or both. Why can't I have liberal views that are more close to reality than you guys who are just not waking up to the facts?

In my view, Pakistanis have to do two things to beat India once for all.

a) Give up Islam

b) Become a democracy

Option "a" looks impossible to me as the membership of Islam doesn't allow its members to leave the club - thanks to the circumcision.

Option "b" is possible if we look at two nations

i) Turkey

ii) Malaysia

Imran Khan is gaining support and it is quite possible that he can take Pakistan in to the final fold of democracy and become an entity like Ataturk.

Making peace with India is very important for them or otherwise their Military will keep dangling India danger in front of them and keep filling up their treasuries.

If these guys become a democratic nation and give up their quest for Kashmir then I am sure that their rise shall be meteoric and they will become a wealthy nation in comparison to India. They have some of the advantages and can have more unity in their national affairs as there is no significant racial discrimination in about 90% of the society. Mohajirs are less than 7,8% and rest of the races are not so different. A homogeneous society can have more unity and understanding as well as less violence if they are a democracy.

In India we have a massive racial discrimination where sometimes it becomes difficult to segregate a human being from an animal.

[number four]

lMl2000 wrote:

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(and also informed by the British and Americans) that Pakistanis would not hesitate in using their nukes.
Do read this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/p...
and a recent clip from our own newspapers would give you more insight.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewD...
PS: I am presenting credible links and analysis on issues I discuss that make India look like a nation of wimps therefore everyone jumps on me accusing me of being a Pakistani, a Muslim or both ! By doing so it relieves them from a bigger admission to acknowledge that India is a nation of wimps after all.

A)Muslims are prone to "posturing" ...i.e...Saddam, Hezbollah ,Hamas,Al Bashir ,O.B.L.,and Ahmadinejad .......(all,empty threats ....)
A1)Pakistan ,keeps the payload ,nuclear trigger and the delivery systems all separate ...(this is a defense, to keep these weapons out of the hands of your militants .).....eight second response .......fictitious ...Not even America could respond in such a time span ...

B)American Defense Secretary :was perturbed with the Pakistani high command , the money we gave you was to fight the Taliban .....instead , you people used it to shore up your defense at the Pakistani Indian border ...
B1)You may consider the Indian War Machine "wimps"..but, your leaders obviously do not ...

[number four]

lMl2000 wrote:

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. On the other side, I can challenge anyone to take me on any knowledge about any nook and corner of Delhi and ask me any question to check my knowledge on Hinduism - and do that live. I can come on any live chat where you can ask me impromptu questions and I would give you on the spot answers.

...see..this is where things smell fishy ...you are notoriously secrective ...you ask of us personal question ,yet you offer nothing of yourself ....????

You warn "steadyfriend" of revealing "too much"..

And, now that "Dragnet52" accuses of being a Pakistani Muslims ....you have found your tongue ,and post after post after post ,assert that you were once a Hindu ...Who are you trying to convince ...????

[lMl2000]

Dak-original wrote:

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N weapons will never be used or else Pakistan would have used them long time ago.

How would you justify the saying " There is always a first time " !

Dak-original wrote:

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Pakistan's former Air Marshall Asghar Khan has been proven right.?

Please understand that Asghar Khan, despite of being a high military ranking officer of Pakistan, is basically a very upset man. A three star rank air marshal— who served as the first native Chief of Air Staff of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) from 1957 until resigning in 1965 prior to the start of the air operations of the PAF during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. He missed out the heroic performance of PAF during this war where they scared the daylights of the Indian Air Force. Please refer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_W... and check neutral claims on both sides - Pakistan lost 20 air crafts whereas Indians lost 75 planes. This war was a draw despite of the fact that India was three times bigger than Pakistan.

[number four]

lMl2000 wrote:

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I have asked this question on many occasions but not a single Indian can answer as to why Pakistan has not returned one of the highest Kargil peak back to us that they snatched in 1999?
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/near-tiger-...
and watch this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Same reason you need American drones to police your South West Frontier..

[lMl2000]

number four wrote:

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American Defense Secretary :was perturbed with the Pakistani high command , the money we gave you was to fight the Taliban .....instead , you people used it to shore up your defense at the Pakistani Indian border ...
B1)You may consider the Indian War Machine "wimps"..but, your leaders obviously do not ...

Chuy, understand two basic things.

a) You may hold an American passport but you are no american in the literal sense. You are an Indian so do not refer yourself "we" as in Americans.

b) I might hold an American passport but I am an Indian. Don't confuse yourself by calling me "you" as in a Pakistani.

Now for some stuff from the real Americans.

The US ambassador to India, Ambassador Tim Roemer, examines the India's so-called Cold Start strategy (just help yourself by reading as to what India's cold start doctrine is), a plan to attack Pakistan, which he describes as a 'mixture of myth and reality'. He says it is unlikely that India would implement the strategy, and questionable whether it would succeed if it did.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-ca...

Key passage highlighted in yellow - scroll down to sub point 8.

"We think that the November 2008 Pakistan-linked terror attack in Mumbai and its immediate aftermath provide insight into Indian and Pakistani thinking on Cold Start. First, the GOI refrained from implementing Cold Start even after an attack as audacious and bloody as the Mumbai attack, which calls into serious question the GOI's willingness to actually adopt the Cold Start option. Second, the Pakistanis have known about Cold Start since 2004, but this knowledge does not seem to have prompted them to prevent terror attacks against India to extent such attacks could be controlled. This fact calls into question Cold Start's ability to deter Pakistani mischief inside India. Even more so, it calls into question the degree of sincerity of fear over Cold Start as expressed by Pakistani military leaders to USG officials"

[number four]

lMl2000 wrote:

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. Please refer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_W... and check neutral claims on both sides - Pakistan lost 20 air crafts whereas Indians lost 75 planes. This war was a draw despite of the fact that India was three times bigger than Pakistan.

..."lML2000" ...I have to read this again , but "neutral" sources declare India as the victor at the cease fire ....

[lMl2000]

number four wrote:

<quoted text>...see..this is where things smell fishy ...you are notoriously secrective ...you ask of us personal question ,yet you offer nothing of yourself ....????
You warn "steadyfriend" of revealing "too much"..

Most of the Indians stinks of shit but this doesn't mean that you can urinate or shit on them? Smelling a fish doesn't mean that you are in a fish market but you could be very close to performing a cunnilingus to your dream girl.

What do you mean that I am secretive? I can't be giving out my real name, phone number and address here? I am probably more accurate in my Indian-ness than anyone else. I have described Delhi with deadly accuracy where I have proven your "dream man" Harminder wrong. He is avoiding to answer me questions that I have asked him of the area he has spent his entire childhood in? Why no Indian is able to note this point? If you or even he was from this area, you could come back and reinforce your claims of branding me in to a Pakistani by saying that I know that area very well as I am an ISI agent and am based in the Pakistan Embassy as this embassy is hardly 1200 meters from the Malcha Marg in New Delhi.

Chuy, it is better that you don't comment on me personally as I am quite good in what I do. People here already know that you are a fraud who is masquerading here as an American with a Maxican background whereas in reality you are a Dalit Indian living in the US. There is nothing to be ashamed in calling yourself a Dalit - many proud Indians have done so. HC still does it. Don't call yourself an American as you are NOT one. I really found it very shameless on your account that you even described yourself as fair-skinned as you were NOT Indian but of Mexican ethnicity. What a liar you can be ? A Mexican who understood Indian slur words from Hindi to Marathi? You have admitted to being an Indian and admitted that Mexican stuff was the fake one so, call yourself as an Indian. Works better for all of us. I am willing to accept that you are a Christian - so pipe down !

number four wrote:

<quoted text>now that "Dragnet52" accuses of being a Pakistani Muslims ....you have found your tongue ,and post after post after post ,assert that you were once a Hindu ...Who are you trying to convince ...????

It is not Dragnet alone but every one of you calls me a Pakistani. Dak, Haji kaji, You, Dragnet - So to all 4 of you I am separately telling that I am not one. I am not sending my denials to Dragnet as he knows that I am an Indian and that too a Hindu.

Don't you get it that you are being played here? Even you asked me sometime ago how come we both, Dragnet and I, pile on to each other whenever we come-across each other - you even thought that we were probably married or gays?

Yes, the game is very simple. He is a Hindu bigot who represents Hindus of Ramayan Belt coming from the BIMAROU states. I am the secular one who represents all other states and people of all religions. He believes in deception and lies and wants to keep simple minded like you in the state of numbness so that delusion can continue as it continues in India. I on the other hand represent a view that is for openness and truth. My posts would carry facts with links that would only attest what I present to you all. Guys like you are pawns and he is playing you. But I guess you like it when someone plays with you? isn't it?

[number four]

lMl2000 wrote:

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Chuy, understand two basic things.
a) You may hold an American passport but you are no american in the literal sense. You are an Indian so do not refer yourself "we" as in Americans.
b) I might hold an American passport but I am an Indian. Don't confuse yourself by calling me "you" as in a Pakistani.
Now for some stuff from the real Americans.
The US ambassador to India, Ambassador Tim Roemer, examines the India's so-called Cold Start strategy (just help yourself by reading as to what India's cold start doctrine is), a plan to attack Pakistan, which he describes as a 'mixture of myth and reality'. He says it is unlikely that India would implement the strategy, and questionable whether it would succeed if it did.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-ca...
Key passage highlighted in yellow - scroll down to sub point 8.
"We think that the November 2008 Pakistan-linked terror attack in Mumbai and its immediate aftermath provide insight into Indian and Pakistani thinking on Cold Start. First, the GOI refrained from implementing Cold Start even after an attack as audacious and bloody as the Mumbai attack, which calls into serious question the GOI's willingness to actually adopt the Cold Start option. Second, the Pakistanis have known about Cold Start since 2004, but this knowledge does not seem to have prompted them to prevent terror attacks against India to extent such attacks could be controlled. This fact calls into question Cold Start's ability to deter Pakistani mischief inside India. Even more so, it calls into question the degree of sincerity of fear over Cold Start as expressed by Pakistani military leaders to USG officials"

1)..I'm gonna have great difficulty referring to you as an Indian ...as you don't pass the smell test ..

2)Once you are given citizenship ...YOU ARE AMERICAN ...there's an oath and everything ...

3)I do not like bashing allies (Pakistan) may be playing both sides ,but She has bled in defense of American interests ..
3a)I think Pakistan is a little frightened of the militants ,and therefore allows them free reign ..(and, I think the Indians understand this, and therefore can afford to be magnanimous .)

4)That India has not responded with artillery and armor sweeping into Pakistan ...should be praised as level headed thinking , not cowardice ....
4a)There will be no victor ..India is wealthy and once Her people are riled up you will see a Hindutva ,that will make you pee in your little ..???(what are those pajamas Indians wear)..
4b)Pakistan is smaller , but as we can plainly see ,Her men "can" fight (defending military installations)