No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ... Full Story
Pskak

Europe

#32526 Dec 8, 2012
number four wrote:
<quoted text>There will be "no" sex in Heaven ...
there will be no heaven.
Deedat

Pune, India

#32527 Dec 8, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Janab Deedat Sahib
I have seen your long post, and I find it repetitive and with very less material of real importance.
I would like you to take the simple test which I prescribed for you. i.e. take any poem of this Zaid in Arabic language and then take any chapter from Quran, I will recommend Surah "Naas" and then try to remember both of them.
That will show you which is which!!
These types of arguments would not benefit me or you.
Have a nice day, my dear Sir.
<quoted text>
Ans.
C.
Qidwai sahib I know whole of Suhra Al Naas and Zaid’s poetry at back of my hands… btw will you tell WHAT KIND OF GOD WILL SAY THAT SUN SETS IN MURKY, MUDDY POOL???

“Lund Fakir”

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#32528 Dec 8, 2012
number four wrote:
<quoted text>There will be "no" sex in Heaven ..."wartdicks" will fit in nicely ...
lol lol lol lol he he he ha ha ha ha sweetie n4 no sex in heaven? to hell with your heaven. i am converting to islam. in their heaven there are 72 hooris constantly having sex. lol lol lol lol he he he ha ha ha ha

“Lund Fakir”

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#32529 Dec 8, 2012
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good to see you kick ass.
Haji Kaji is missing for a few days? In his case I always get a feeling that he is some poor guy employed as a blue collar worker in some Chinese factory where he is employed in a warehouse filling up high racks with goods and moving them around on a small trolley car which lifts the cartons and keeps them on high spots. I don't know if he really tries to project that image of being in destitute however he does sound like a person who is working hard to make two ends meet. For example, he is missing this weekend so it is quite possible that someone must have taken him for a weekend to Macau, Hong Kong or some sight seeing trip and he will be back on Monday speaking about his excursion. I do miss him.. LOL !
lol lol lol lol lol he he he he he HA ha ha ha sweetie dhoklabhai imi you know so much about everyone without meeting anyone. you must be a Mensa topper. taliyaan taliyaan taliyaan. if you can do enlighten us on your education profession job business career or lack thereof. sweetie hang on to that wartdick.
lol lol lol lol lol he he he he he HA ha ha ha

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32532 Dec 8, 2012
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Well not all human minds i.e. "Pskak", "Deedat" and "Tyr Bloodletter" ....
Truth is objective not subjective ......Human psyche was created to search for God ...
Is it just a coincidence that the majority of the poorest countries in the world are the most religious ones? Or is it because their faith holds them back from economic progress?

Out here on our forum the guys who are in to religious hate also sound poor. For example Deedat aka Dragnet aka PsKak aka Clernentia or Tyr Bloodaxe or even Haji Kaji - looks like that they are really financially tight or they won't indulge in useless subject like religion and get violent in their talks by using profanities or snubs like "F" off. On the other hand it is you, despite of your religious mind you are open to criticize your faith. It is almost impossible to segregate an Indian from a religion as he is bound to have some religion when he is born and as a matter of choice he can become an atheist or an agnostic. I have been against Dak on this thread but I have not found him financially poor. Poor guys do give out their financial condition one way or other and their knowledge about world affair sucks.

Tyr Bloodaxe or HC - It is not a secret that he is born untouchable and has some how managed to reach Canada. We also have another guy from Canada called Fineline who happenes to be a Muslim. There is a big difference between them. Fineline never speaks about religion and hardly ever defends it - however he is passionate about his country Pakistan. Now he does get along with guys like Dak as Dak himself has lived in the West for quite sometime and anyone living in the western countries for so long tends to become democratic and large minded. HC is a bigot Hindu who not only defends his religion but he also projects his country as a source of world enlightenment and hates Islam with a passion - These are typical traits of someone who has not assimilated in the west and has carried his poverty, untouchability along with him to his new place of residence. Other guys, Dragnet or whatever multiple IDs of his, is educated in good school but his education has not costed a dime for his astute parents of the family he grew up with. His education / ration was supported by the act of Reservation in India which is a form of affirmative action, in US, designed to improve the well-being of backward and under-represented communities defined primarily by their 'caste' and he happens to be from a backward caste or known as SC. He writes most of the posts on this thread (under different names and IPs) and I have seen his posts where he has praised and supported Ram Vilas Paswan and Mayawati for their actions. He even wanted Mayawati (a downright corrupt representative of the low castes SC)to become the PM of India? You would notice that these guys are now for Modi as they want mayhem in India as these losers have nothing to lose anymore so this headcount makes India as an unstable nation. Yesterday a prominent Judge made a statement that 90% of Indians are idiots
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/90-o...

This judge is a high caliber personality who is a Chairman for the Press Council of India and a retired Judge of the Supreme Court of India - AND , he declared his countrymen as idiots? Who would do that? Only someone who knows the country inside out and has no hopes in it. I am sure this would have cold water effect on the guys I have mentioned in here but the facts are facts.

Speaking of MUQ - He does not preach Hatred but sells his religion like and used car salesman. He tries hard but there are no takers as Muslims don't need to buy from him as they have Islam in abundance and Hindus he is facing are unfit of becoming Muslims. He is paid for it by his Saudi Employers as we do know that he is in Saudi Arabia. He earns money for what he does so there is nothing wrong in it.
Deedat

Pune, India

#32533 Dec 8, 2012
MUQ wrote:
I think Deedat Sahib, it is time that we part company.
because now you have become "expert" on Quran and need no assistance from a "Novice" like me.
Have a Nice day and have a good time.
I initially thought that you on this thread to learn something about Islam. It appears that it is your job to "teach" people about Islam and not learn!!
So have your own way and may God be with you.
I may be not expert on Islam but at the same time I know few things…
Dear brother you also have a nice day (though we might have few intellectual differences but you will always remain my brother in Humanity)
Yeah I am here to learn few things…which unfortunately turned otherwise..
God is with me as He Himself is making me ask these questions….so no worries, keep sound and safe.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#32534 Dec 8, 2012
The posters should notice that Clernentia is someone not worth talking to. No one would even give her a second glance to what he/she writes so no one talks to her / him except one person? You would notice that Deedat and Clernentia appear almost immediately one afer another and engage in talking to each other. Why? It is only because both are one. They have always been appearing since the inception of the latest one. As Judge Katju said, 90% of Indians are idiots - so there ...!

“Lund Fakir”

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#32535 Dec 8, 2012
lMl2000 wrote:
The posters should notice that Clernentia is someone not worth talking to. No one would even give her a second glance to what he/she writes so no one talks to her / him except one person? You would notice that Deedat and Clernentia appear almost immediately one afer another and engage in talking to each other. Why? It is only because both are one. They have always been appearing since the inception of the latest one. As Judge Katju said, 90% of Indians are idiots - so there ...!
lol lol lol lol lol he he he he ha ha ha my chweetie chimp you appear mentally rattled. go ahead and delete my id. imi steadyfreind voice of India fake dak fake neville et el and hundreds of your fake id stink this forum. tell me what you do apart from being a permanent troll and timekeeper on this forum? ans: nothing. wella suits you well. lol lol lol lol lol he he he he ha ha ha
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Deedat

Pune, India

#32536 Dec 8, 2012
lMl2000 wrote:
The posters should notice that Clernentia is someone not worth talking to. No one would even give her a second glance to what he/she writes so no one talks to her / him except one person? You would notice that Deedat and Clernentia appear almost immediately one afer another and engage in talking to each other. Why? It is only because both are one. They have always been appearing since the inception of the latest one. As Judge Katju said, 90% of Indians are idiots - so there ...!
Babes ..everything is arranged….where you wanna have that operation…..btw do you think that all the posters and readers are inbred??? Also why your clementia avatar is having some difficulty….grow up as someone on this thread said you should grow up…. Don’t get rattled up what me and Qidwai Sahib is discussing… Also did you not say that you are taking a vacation?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#32537 Dec 8, 2012
biomystic wrote:
Every megalomaniac totalitarian leader with a Script says the same thing: "There will be peace when all believe as one" (in the leaders ideas or he will have his groupies, his minions, his lackey, his slaves, kill you. And then there will be peace because of no opposition to the leaders ideas or my will.
God is actually on the side of democracy now because males are out of control and need to be reigned in as only offset by women's vote and power can do.
Are you saying that the god who hates women has changed his mind? What happened to the old biblical stance, is there a new bible?
Deedat

Pune, India

#32538 Dec 8, 2012
Clernentia wrote:
<quoted text>
lol lol lol lol lol he he he he ha ha ha my chweetie chimp you appear mentally rattled. go ahead and delete my id. imi steadyfreind voice of India fake dak fake neville et el and hundreds of your fake id stink this forum. tell me what you do apart from being a permanent troll and timekeeper on this forum? ans: nothing. wella suits you well. lol lol lol lol lol he he he he ha ha ha
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Lund fakir (the one who is always seeking tool of men in rear and shaved vagina)…what other proof anyone needs when you yourself shed your panties…
PS: do you really believe the posters and readers are inbred like you??? Also if I decide to take you on you will hide your face in micro g-strings…
Now do your Hahaz, loz and Hehez

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#32540 Dec 8, 2012
MUQ wrote:
01. May be you are smarter than me. I just take the post on the thread and answer it. I find it highly immoral for someone to use another man's ID to deceive the people
02. If Chinese goods are so damn cheap why can't Indian goods be also that damn cheap? Labor cost in India is no better than in China? The problem with India is that there are "too many middlemen" in the process. In India people who want to do honest work are very few.
Most of Indians want to do easy job and act as middle men and commission agent. That is why the final cost is much higher than the labor cost.
03. What prevents India to make a "controlled economy". When India was under "socialist wave" its industry was also controlled, did it excel in world market? Then you people said it is because of Govt. inefficiency that is holding the industry, now you say the reverse.
The basic thing is what Is aid, Indians do not like to work hard, they want an easy life.
04. The last resort to bring any country down is to play with its currency. The same tactics was used against Japan in 1980 s to bring it down to its knees. They up valued its Yen from 240 Yen to a dollar to 100 Yens to a Dollar.
The poor country, how could it fight against its good becoming 250 % costlier over a period of 1 year or so. They did not have any army, so they had to accept it.
Now the same tactics they are using against China, and trying to up value its currency.
May be China will loose, but it would be like a "gang war" in which every one joins against one country.
Why can't all the currencies be valued against Gold or Silver? So that all this "fake" valuation of any currency be known.
With Gold selling Rupees 32,000 a Tola, what is the real value of Indian Rupee?
Now look, I'm not holding a brief for any country. But facts cannot be presented selectively, or else you would be open to the accusation of indulging in cherry picking.

Let's look at the strong points of Chinese temperament. Chinese as a race are indeed more disciplined, more amenable to co-operate in team spirit and more respectful of authority and hierarchy than Indians. This may have something to do with their Confucian value system that they may have imbibed into their daily life style. Apart from this, the Chinese society has far more homogeneity which lends to them a greater sense of cohesiveness. This advantage is not there for the Indians, I suppose. But all this should not blind our eyes to the underbelly of Chinese economy.

Time to time news filters out of China, despite the tightly controlled media, about sporadic outbursts of labor unrest in the towns and industrial suburbs of major cities which is then snuffed out with an iron hand. Chinese authorities clamp down on dissent ruthlessly. Thus much of the labor disputes and other factors that can play spoilsport is brushed aside with no fear of accountability that is present in a normal democracy. Hence the present Chinese dominance in the manufacturing sector has come at a great social and political cost.

Devaluation of currency is resorted to by nations themselves. So I don't understand how others can gang up against China.

Since you seem to be a fan of Chinese way of life, I take the liberty of asking you one question. Do you agree with China's family planning system? In China you simply cannot have a large brood of children without paying a price for that. Is this acceptable for you as a muslim? Try to answer this honestly, because China's family planning system has played a major role in its rise.

“Alone,as I am always”

Since: Oct 12

Karachi,Pakistan

#32541 Dec 9, 2012
Tyr Bloodaxe wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr Hyde and not Dr Jekyll was the greatest man alive and not certainly " prophet"""!!
Mr Hyde and Dr Jekyll are the greatest man in your dreams.PROPHET MUHAMMAD [S.A.W] was the man who taught the man how to live in this universe,what is necessary and what is not.When the new born girls were buried alive by the Arabs it was the Great Prophet Muhammad [S.A.W] who taught them that this is wrong and many other things.You can't compare these new people with the all the Great Prophets not only Prophet Muhammad [S.A.W].these people are nothing in front of Prophets.

“Alone,as I am always”

Since: Oct 12

Karachi,Pakistan

#32542 Dec 9, 2012
jai wrote:
My holy religion of piss-islam is only the true religion present in this vast universe, other are just false. Muhammad is my secretary also my first follower.
What type of person you are,what is your personality,you have showed everything.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#32543 Dec 9, 2012
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is knowing too much ! That is my problem.
I grew up indoctrinated by Indian political correctness. Like majority of educated citizens in India, I got brainwashed: Castes do not exist, all are equal. Saying anything different, saying that there are castes differences, is racism, a crime.
In school I heard disparaging remarks about Baba Ambedkar and other “dishonest”“cheating” social workers doing wrong things to our country with all the caste differences.
India has been categorized as a country with an average IQ of 80 or so. There always was some complicated theory to explain away the IQ differences:
a) Different culture For example Children of UP, Bihar, Orissa, Rajasthan would not be so bright as Kids of Gujarat, Maharshtra, Punjab, Kashmir)
b) Parental expectation ( Again Parents of BIMAROU would expect their children to earn by hook or crook by forcing them hard labour , beg, borrow or steal so they grow up as utmost dishonest corrupt and form a picture of India that sticks like a stigma for the rest of our lives with us no matter how different the Gujjus, Maharashtrians or Punjabis perform
c) Mother’s malnourishment ( Besides BIMAROU belt, we have southern region of India that excels in producing malnourished kids who remain mentally and physically challenged for the rest of their lives. We have seen some prominent south Indians on this forum who think some western skaters dancing on some vague Bollywood theme would help Mahendra and Tata sell substandard Indian cars in the western world.
d) IQ measurements are racially and culturally biased
My perception changed when I read about trans-caste adoption studies. That is what explained all these desperate attempts to explain away racial differences in intelligence.
The best evidence for the genetic basis of caste-IQ differences comes from trans-racial adoption studies of Oriental children, Bimarou children, South Indian children, and Black children. All these children have been adopted by White parents at an early age and have grown up in middle-class White homes.
Chinese and Vietnamese babies from poor backgrounds, many of whom were malnourished, were adopted by White American and Belgian families. When they grew up, they excelled in school. The IQs of the adopted Oriental children were 10 or more points higher than the national average for the country they grew up in. Bimarou children, South Indian children, and Black children had problems in the school and had diminishing IQ and were lower by 20 or more points than the national average for the country they grew up in.
In plain English: adopted Oriental babies grew up to be very bright, while adopted Bimarou children, South Indian children, and Black children grew up to have low intelligence.
One more desperate theory that was posed to salvage the “racial equality” dogma by people from your states:
“expectancy effects,” not genes, explained the pattern.
As usual you speculate with gay abandon, both with regards to my personal life as well as the larger issues raised in your post.

Your post is reeking with snobbishness, so much so that you think that being a snob is an accomplishment in its own right. This is one place where you could have shown your mettle by looking at things from a larger perspective and presenting more insightful analysis and creative solutions. Instead you come up with a lazy superficial treatment of what ails India and you top it up with third world feudalistic attitudes towards people down on the ladder of development. Being a snob, looking down on others, showing how much flabby fat you have accumulated is very easy as you don't have to jog your brain cells. No one gives much respect to these kind of fake, insincere shallow minded snobs with third world feudalistic attitudes.

“Alone,as I am always”

Since: Oct 12

Karachi,Pakistan

#32544 Dec 9, 2012
Tyr Bloodaxe wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr Hyde and not Dr Jekyll was the greatest man alive and not certainly " prophet"""!!
Every Prophet had his own quality.They had almost every quality for e.g

1.Faithful 2.Guardianship 3.Vindicate 4.Never telling a lie 5.truth
6.trustful 7.Very brave 8.trust in God 9.generosity 10.gentleness 11.good manners 12.believe in god 13.true nature 14.helping others 15.being trustworthy 16.forgiveness

what qualities are not in our Prophets.No one can compare them with any other ordinary human.
Deedat

Mumbai, India

#32545 Dec 9, 2012
shahid afridi wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr Hyde and Dr Jekyll are the greatest man in your dreams.PROPHET MUHAMMAD [S.A.W] was the man who taught the man how to live in this universe,what is necessary and what is not.When the new born girls were buried alive by the Arabs it was the Great Prophet Muhammad [S.A.W] who taught them that this is wrong and many other things.You can't compare these new people with the all the Great Prophets not only Prophet Muhammad [S.A.W].these people are nothing in front of Prophets.
Pathan brother as it is very evident that you have not read Quran Shariff and other Islamic texts…here is something for you It was Not Muhammd (saw) who said that new born babies should not be bury new born girl childs alive, it was Zaid ibn Arm the haniff….and it was not ; a common practice how come Muhammad (saw) and rest of the believers came to this world if Arabs were busy in burying new born baby girl childs

“Alone,as I am always”

Since: Oct 12

Karachi,Pakistan

#32546 Dec 9, 2012
Deedat wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathan brother as it is very evident that you have not read Quran Shariff and other Islamic texts…here is something for you It was Not Muhammd (saw) who said that new born babies should not be bury new born girl childs alive, it was Zaid ibn Arm the haniff….and it was not ; a common practice how come Muhammad (saw) and rest of the believers came to this world if Arabs were busy in burying new born baby girl childs
He taught the illiterate and uneducated people that these is not right,you should not do this.for your kind information it is Zayd bin amr not zaid ibn arm.He was the first person to save the children but it was noto ver It was Hazrat Muhammad who stopped the people from doing this go and read Quran carefully,you don't know even the right name.

“Alone,as I am always”

Since: Oct 12

Karachi,Pakistan

#32547 Dec 9, 2012
Deedat wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathan brother as it is very evident that you have not read Quran Shariff and other Islamic texts…here is something for you It was Not Muhammd (saw) who said that new born babies should not be bury new born girl childs alive, it was Zaid ibn Arm the haniff….and it was not ; a common practice how come Muhammad (saw) and rest of the believers came to this world if Arabs were busy in burying new born baby girl childs
Not all Arabs.There were many educated Arabs and many other Arabs who were not doing this work.This foolish thinking was removed by the Prophet Muhammad.You don't know anything Indian.Iam 18 years old and from the class 1 to university i have learnt that it was Prophet muhammad [S.A.W] who taught people.Like Zaid Bin Amr there were many people who were trying to stop Arbas but could not suceed.
Deedat

Mumbai, India

#32548 Dec 9, 2012
shahid afridi wrote:
<quoted text>
He taught the illiterate and uneducated people that these is not right,you should not do this.for your kind information it is Zayd bin amr not zaid ibn arm.He was the first person to save the children but it was noto ver It was Hazrat Muhammad who stopped the people from doing this go and read Quran carefully,you don't know even the right name.
Pathan Brother, I know if Zaid should be written as Zayd….Btw it is not Zayd bin amr it is “Zaid/Zayd ibn Arm….so get yourself corrected about bin and “ibn”…

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