Pelham Humphries "rightful heirs"

[lilmargi]

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lilmargi wrote:

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Thank You!

[WONDERING]

Thank you so much for hearing our plea. I really hope some of the others will come to this site. We will try posting back and forth until we get some attention over here, o.k? Thanks Wondering

[tmack]

I will be checking in.

[Globetrekker]

...as will I.

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Globetrekker wrote:

...as will I.

So, last week I was in Tenn. I could see where all the court cases that were pending have been heard and dismissed. I did not know that the McCullough/McCullar heirs in Alabama. Had a case to be heard did you? They sure dropped that! No more court Dates pending there.. I read where the name change was ordered from Collins County Probate Court. That is a done deal name change finished, so What is next. 323 heirs declared first line heirs. Oil companies are paying they do not care who they have to pay one way another. it still a bill is being paid.I was just wondering what is next. No one has the ID cards yet!! No updates what do you guys think? PS it is nice to have a web site for all of crazy Humphries.. IMHO

[Globetrekker]

what happend wrote:

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So, last week I was in Tenn. I could see where all the court cases that were pending have been heard and dismissed. I did not know that the McCullough/McCullar heirs in Alabama. Had a case to be heard did you? They sure dropped that! No more court Dates pending there.. I read where the name change was ordered from Collins County Probate Court. That is a done deal name change finished, so What is next. 323 heirs declared first line heirs. Oil companies are paying they do not care who they have to pay one way another. it still a bill is being paid.I was just wondering what is next. No one has the ID cards yet!! No updates what do you guys think? PS it is nice to have a web site for all of crazy Humphries.. IMHO

Showing my age… I had to look up “IMHO.” For those of you who are 45 and older: it means “in my humble opinion.” ANYWAY! The last “update letter” explained a little of what is next to come. As I understand (IMHO); we will receive an order or a request for our certified/exemplified lineage papers proving who we are and which line (child of William & Leasy) we are from. When your “proof” has been legally established, you will receive your ID card. After these two steps…well, I don’t want to speculate at this point. However, I’m sure things will move at a much quicker pace.

[wondering]

Globetrekker wrote:

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Showing my age… I had to look up “IMHO.” For those of you who are 45 and older: it means “in my humble opinion.” ANYWAY! The last “update letter” explained a little of what is next to come. As I understand (IMHO); we will receive an order or a request for our certified/exemplified lineage papers proving who we are and which line (child of William & Leasy) we are from. When your “proof” has been legally established, you will receive your ID card. After these two steps…well, I don’t want to speculate at this point. However, I’m sure things will move at a much quicker pace.

Globetrekker, the 'final Determination of Heirship" for first line heirs of Pelham H. was signed by the judge for the 323 offical heirs in July of 2008. If I am incorrect, please let me know, If a Judge signs a final declaration, that should be legal enough. Are they going back to court and have some of the names removed if the 323 have not yet proved heirship to Pelham H., and how many times and to how many people do they have to prove heirship? The papers came out in Sept that we had 10 days to sign and return so that we could receive our Id cards. That has been about 5 or 6 weeks, still nothing. I think we should at least have a letter by now explaining what is going on, don't you? I know most of this stuff is hush, hush, but the legal heirs are getting pretty riled up because they can't hear anything. Some of the largest law suits in the world such as Howard Hughes was settled very quickly, once his heirs were declared. This has been over a year now and even the leage of land has gone (legally) back into Pelham Humphries name,(in Collins county Tx.) and still nothing. Don't won't to get to out of whack, but enough is almost enough. Someone should be hearing from someone real soon, don't you think? Also some of the certificate holders are also heirs and they should at least be paid by now, don't you think? I would like any sort of information. Thank you Wondering

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Glad you guys have your own site. I hope you win your case real soon. I wish the best to all the heirs and when the money comes, do not forget the little people who all made it possible!

[Chris]

wondering wrote:

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Globetrekker, the 'final Determination of Heirship" for first line heirs of Pelham H. was signed by the judge for the 323 offical heirs in July of 2008. If I am incorrect, please let me know, If a Judge signs a final declaration, that should be legal enough. Are they going back to court and have some of the names removed if the 323 have not yet proved heirship to Pelham H., and how many times and to how many people do they have to prove heirship? The papers came out in Sept that we had 10 days to sign and return so that we could receive our Id cards. That has been about 5 or 6 weeks, still nothing. I think we should at least have a letter by now explaining what is going on, don't you? I know most of this stuff is hush, hush, but the legal heirs are getting pretty riled up because they can't hear anything. Some of the largest law suits in the world such as Howard Hughes was settled very quickly, once his heirs were declared. This has been over a year now and even the leage of land has gone (legally) back into Pelham Humphries name,(in Collins county Tx.) and still nothing. Don't won't to get to out of whack, but enough is almost enough. Someone should be hearing from someone real soon, don't you think? Also some of the certificate holders are also heirs and they should at least be paid by now, don't you think? I would like any sort of information. Thank you Wondering

I know the land has been placed back in Pelham Humphries name.(and yes I feel like you) Some sort of royalties should have been paid at that point. As far as everything being hush - hush, I would hate to think the oil companies are so dumb that a hick like me can find out about the land and all the court dates - but a trillion dollar oil company can not? If they are that dumb then why the heck has it taken so long to get this far? Sounds like a fox is running the hen house and the farmer has the wool pulled over his eyes(well the fox thinks it is pulled over).

[wondering]

Chris wrote:

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I know the land has been placed back in Pelham Humphries name.(and yes I feel like you) Some sort of royalties should have been paid at that point. As far as everything being hush - hush, I would hate to think the oil companies are so dumb that a hick like me can find out about the land and all the court dates - but a trillion dollar oil company can not? If they are that dumb then why the heck has it taken so long to get this far? Sounds like a fox is running the hen house and the farmer has the wool pulled over his eyes(well the fox thinks it is pulled over).

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Well Chris, you are right, but you see they are not dealing with the oil company's per say, They have been paying all these years. They didn't pump off that land for free all these years. The leased or whatever they did, to pay someone for the rights. They never claimed to own the land, if they did, we would be fighting them, but we're not. That's the whole thing, the money is somewhere waiting for the rightful heirs, the only fight is to get it back from the crooks,(so to speak) not the oil company's. Do you care who buys the mortgage on your home from the present mortgage co? Of course not, as long as your payment doesn't change. The loan has to be paid to someone. That is the whole thing here. The money is just going to a different place. Never the less, it is still being paid out, by the oil companies. They have to pay to pump, so to speak. So now that the rightful heirs have been signed by a judge and all the league of land has been placed back into the rightful name, what's the problem? The case is already won, so why all the secrecy? Seems like there might be a problem with the administration dept. It is a lot of responsibility for one man. I think it was a lot better when there was a board of trustees. more heads are better than one (imho) Not that WH is not an honest man, I'm not saying that, but at least there was a chance to get a good letter and not a repremand one. If you have received one, you know what I mean. Heres hoping to get some sort of news real soon. Thanks Wondering

[lilmargi]

wondering wrote:

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Well Chris, you are right, but you see they are not dealing with the oil company's per say, They have been paying all these years. They didn't pump off that land for free all these years. The leased or whatever they did, to pay someone for the rights. They never claimed to own the land, if they did, we would be fighting them, but we're not. That's the whole thing, the money is somewhere waiting for the rightful heirs, the only fight is to get it back from the crooks,(so to speak) not the oil company's. Do you care who buys the mortgage on your home from the present mortgage co? Of course not, as long as your payment doesn't change. The loan has to be paid to someone. That is the whole thing here. The money is just going to a different place. Never the less, it is still being paid out, by the oil companies. They have to pay to pump, so to speak. So now that the rightful heirs have been signed by a judge and all the league of land has been placed back into the rightful name, what's the problem? The case is already won, so why all the secrecy? Seems like there might be a problem with the administration dept. It is a lot of responsibility for one man. I think it was a lot better when there was a board of trustees. more heads are better than one (imho) Not that WH is not an honest man, I'm not saying that, but at least there was a chance to get a good letter and not a repremand one. If you have received one, you know what I mean. Heres hoping to get some sort of news real soon. Thanks Wondering

I would have thought Humphries would have to sue the McFaddins. Would they not have received the royalities through out the years. I know they always said James Meaders deed was useless because they never relinquished the mineral rights.

[Globetrekker]

wondering wrote:

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Globetrekker, the 'final Determination of Heirship" for first line heirs of Pelham H. was signed by the judge for the 323 offical heirs in July of 2008. If I am incorrect, please let me know, If a Judge signs a final declaration, that should be legal enough. Are they going back to court and have some of the names removed if the 323 have not yet proved heirship to Pelham H., and how many times and to how many people do they have to prove heirship? The papers came out in Sept that we had 10 days to sign and return so that we could receive our Id cards. That has been about 5 or 6 weeks, still nothing. I think we should at least have a letter by now explaining what is going on, don't you? I know most of this stuff is hush, hush, but the legal heirs are getting pretty riled up because they can't hear anything. Some of the largest law suits in the world such as Howard Hughes was settled very quickly, once his heirs were declared. This has been over a year now and even the leage of land has gone (legally) back into Pelham Humphries name,(in Collins county Tx.) and still nothing. Don't won't to get to out of whack, but enough is almost enough. Someone should be hearing from someone real soon, don't you think? Also some of the certificate holders are also heirs and they should at least be paid by now, don't you think? I would like any sort of information. Thank you Wondering

Wondering – The September update letter you speak of was a letter to gather the first line heirs’ current information (address, phone #, emails, etc.). My husband and I have moved and so had my sister and her husband. Now, the administration has our current information, as well as the other first line heirs (if they did what they were asked to do). BTW: There was no mention of 10 days to do so...return form, I mean. We were told to return our information immediately. Now for your remarks regarding “how many times and … many people do they have to prove heirship:” The court has a list of names of those who are believed to be first line heirs. Just because we are on a list does not mean everyone on that list is a TRUE heir. The court has to have LEGAL proof of who a first line heir is. That is where the certified/exemplified copies come into play. Law requires a paper trail. It is up to each first line heir to prove they are actually a first line heir. The court has to have legally documented proof to be able to release a check in the name of said first line heir(s). There are several legalities that go along with this, but that’s pretty much the Readers Digest version. These things take time, and I know it’s taking forever. Please remember we are always one day closer. IT IS NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR’S FAULT. Courts have other cases, and we are on the long list of those cases. They could care less who we are. They’ll get to it when they get to it. I know…that sucks! But it’s what it is. We are in God Sent hands with regards to our legal team as well as our administrator. They have moved mountains and miracles have happened to get to where we are today. It’s in God’s hands. He will finish it when He decides it’s time. And I am who believes everything happens for a reason. I just what to be ready for whatever He has in store for me. I, personally, am looking at this inheritance as a blessing and a responsibility. AND travel money!:)

[Wondering]

Globetrekker wrote:

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Wondering – The September update letter you speak of was a letter to gather the first line heirs’ current information (address, phone #, emails, etc.). My husband and I have moved and so had my sister and her husband. Now, the administration has our current information, as well as the other first line heirs (if they did what they were asked to do). BTW: There was no mention of 10 days to do so...return form, I mean. We were told to return our information immediately. Now for your remarks regarding “how many times and … many people do they have to prove heirship:” The court has a list of names of those who are believed to be first line heirs. Just because we are on a list does not mean everyone on that list is a TRUE heir. The court has to have LEGAL proof of who a first line heir is. That is where the certified/exemplified copies come into play. Law requires a paper trail. It is up to each first line heir to prove they are actually a first line heir. The court has to have legally documented proof to be able to release a check in the name of said first line heir(s). There are several legalities that go along with this, but that’s pretty much the Readers Digest version. These things take time, and I know it’s taking forever. Please remember we are always one day closer. IT IS NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR’S FAULT. Courts have other cases, and we are on the long list of those cases. They could care less who we are. They’ll get to it when they get to it. I know…that sucks! But it’s what it is. We are in God Sent hands with regards to our legal team as well as our administrator. They have moved mountains and miracles have happened to get to where we are today. It’s in God’s hands. He will finish it when He decides it’s time. And I am who believes everything happens for a reason. I just what to be ready for whatever He has in store for me. I, personally, am looking at this inheritance as a blessing and a responsibility. AND travel money!:)

Globetrekker, I appreciate your honesty. You know,I for one should and do realize that God is in the center of this whole thing, and I do know you cannot rush God. I too have a ministry that I want to get going with this money. It is a very important last days ministry. I am so excited about getting it going, I just get a little impatient, but I know God is in control. Thank you for you commments. It really helps me understand. It is kind of like you are ready and then you wait, if you know what I mean. I apologize again for my rushing. I do know WH has done a great job and has been guided by the hand of God in this whole situation. That is the reason he has gotten this far. I, personally will keep on praying for him and praying for an expidited ending to this whole thing. My prayer is that it will be this year, if not, I fear the Government will step in and take most of it, in one way or another. There are new tax laws coming out all the time. I know, still, God is in control, but our government is a second best,(lol) You know, sometimes we just need a word of uplifting to keep on track. Without hope, we tend to parrish. Thanks for reminding us.
Thank you for your uplifting, Wondering

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Globetrekker wrote:

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Wondering – The September update letter you speak of was a letter to gather the first line heirs’ current information (address, phone #, emails, etc.). My husband and I have moved and so had my sister and her husband. Now, the administration has our current information, as well as the other first line heirs (if they did what they were asked to do). BTW: There was no mention of 10 days to do so...return form, I mean. We were told to return our information immediately. Now for your remarks regarding “how many times and … many people do they have to prove heirship:” The court has a list of names of those who are believed to be first line heirs. Just because we are on a list does not mean everyone on that list is a TRUE heir. The court has to have LEGAL proof of who a first line heir is. That is where the certified/exemplified copies come into play. Law requires a paper trail. It is up to each first line heir to prove they are actually a first line heir. The court has to have legally documented proof to be able to release a check in the name of said first line heir(s). There are several legalities that go along with this, but that’s pretty much the Readers Digest version. These things take time, and I know it’s taking forever. Please remember we are always one day closer. IT IS NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR’S FAULT. Courts have other cases, and we are on the long list of those cases. They could care less who we are. They’ll get to it when they get to it. I know…that sucks! But it’s what it is. We are in God Sent hands with regards to our legal team as well as our administrator. They have moved mountains and miracles have happened to get to where we are today. It’s in God’s hands. He will finish it when He decides it’s time. And I am who believes everything happens for a reason. I just what to be ready for whatever He has in store for me. I, personally, am looking at this inheritance as a blessing and a responsibility. AND travel money!:)

What about those who brought certicates. I guess they are out of luck.

[Globetrekker]

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What about those who brought certicates. I guess they are out of luck.

Certificate holders should reap the rewards...it's all legal. I'm not sure, but I believe they would be first in line. I would think, as with any other estate, you pay the bills first. I believe
certificates would be considered a bill. I am not an expert in this field. However, you can expect the IRS to get their fare share...

[tmack]

Globetrekker wrote:

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Certificate holders should reap the rewards...it's all legal. I'm not sure, but I believe they would be first in line. I would think, as with any other estate, you pay the bills first. I believe
certificates would be considered a bill. I am not an expert in this field. However, you can expect the IRS to get their fare share...

I was told when I was on the Board of Directors of the Assoication that the certificate holders would receive their payoff before the heirs. If this is so, I welcome the IRS to take their share.

[Globetrekker]

tmack wrote:

<quoted text>I was told when I was on the Board of Directors of the Assoication that the certificate holders would receive their payoff before the heirs. If this is so, I welcome the IRS to take their share.

EXACTLY! However, we ALL will be visited by the IRS...

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[lilmargi]

Just a friendly question... Did your leaders tell you to quit posting already? That did not take long. When other leaders started demanding us off the internet it was because they knew we could prove they were lying. I hope that is not the case with your group. To Wondering I cannot find this July 2008 showing the 323 heirs. I checked Texas and Tennesse. Can you tell me where it was suppose to be filed?