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wondering
Waycross, GA
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lilmargi wrote: <quoted text> I agree so show me where on cause # 41321-1 does it state anything about billions of dollars. Just keeping it correct and real. Do you think the oil companies have been pumping all these years and for free? They have the money somewhere, and how much do you think it would be. Do you have any concept of how much money they spend in, lets say one year. It is above my comperhension. I can't think that high. But, there are millions or billions pumped each week. It has been a long time. And what about in the past? All the companies that have borrowed against this fortune. It's pay back time (with interest). It should be astronomical. Just wait, you will see, that's all I can say to you. Thanks Wondering
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lilmargi
Frankfort, IN
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I have a neat little article from the The Paleontological Research Institution I will find it and re-post it on my forum today. This is a small section of the history of Spindletop.
There was much money to be made at Spindletop, but there was even more money to lose. It is estimated that $50 million dollars was made from Spindletop, compared with investments equalling $80 million. As had happened in other booms, there were many frauds and cheats, and Spindletop was renamed "Swindletop" by some of the less fortunate and more cynical locals. The population of Beaumont swelled from 10,000 to 50,000 in a matter of months. Before the end of the year, Lucas's well was joined by over 200 other wells, all fighting for space on top of Spindletop. These wells were owned by more than 100 different oil companies. The gusher at Spindletop was responsible for creating several companies that were to become giants in the oil industry, including Gulf Oil, Amoco and Humble Oil Company, which would later become an arm of Exxon.
Now if the investments and bills had to be paid and Spindletop was already 30 mil in the hole. How can there be anything left for anybody? From 1901 thru 1936 they took oil off Spindletop. in those 34 years they produced appox. 76 mil barrels of oil. After the oil was gone they mined salt. Spindletop is not famous for the amount of oil found. It is most known in the history books because people realized the true potential of oil - the vast resources that were, in fact, there, and the vast potential that remained. Before Spindletop, oil was used many for lamps and lubrication - after Spindletop, petroleum would be used as a major fuel for such new inventions as the airplane and automobile. Ships and trains that had previously run on the power of coal, now began to switch to oil, becoming convinced that there would be no shortage of the fuel anytime soon. As an example, the Santa Fe Railroad went from only one oil-driven locomotive in 1901 to two hundred and twenty-seven in 1905.
It is difficult to overstate the importance of Spindletop. From this point on, nothing in the oil industry would ever be the same again, for this "gusher" ushered in the modern age of petroleum.
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Somewhere OTR
Kissimmee, FL
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A little humor about Spindletop.
I first heard about John Walling and his land in East Texas and Spindletop in East Texas from my cousin and his wife. What are their names, Billy and Mary Swindle.
Not this is a true story. But Billy & Mary, bless their hearts, did not know it was a swindle.
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Somewhere OTR
Kissimmee, FL
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Hallie wrote: <quoted text> Wondering, Lilmargi, anybody who really knows this. Pelham had a brother William Humphrey, and a sister Sally(Sallie) Humphrey if they were all Humphrey's then why would Sally's decendents not be heirs just the same as William's? William and Sally are the same kin to Pelham. Go to this genealogy (I posted it) http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi... It will link you to Pelham Humphrey, his father David, his sister, Sarah (Sallie) Humphrey and her husband, William Claude Roberts. William Claude Roberts was also married to Sarah Walling, whose parents were James Walling and Phoebe Jones. James was a son of James W. Walling and Mary White, who also had a son by the name of John Walling. This John married Anna Chisum. Getting back to a daughter of William Claude Roberts and Sarah Walling -- Elizabeth (Betsey) Roberts. Her husband was John Swindle. John directly connects to Billy Swindle. So he connects to John Swindle, Pelham Humphrey, John Walling, etc. When you get to Elizabeth (Betsey) Roberts go to the Descendancy link and it will take you right down to Billy Phillip Swindle, my 1st cousin. Also go to Sarah (Sallie)Humphrey and then to the Descendancy link and it will take you Cason Swindle. Matter if fact you can go back this far if you like. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi... This takes you back to Abraham (Ibrahim) Ben Terah and his wife Sarah Sarah Bas Terah Did you know that Abraham is one of the many great grandfathers of John Walling?
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lilmargi
Frankfort, IN
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Hallie wrote: <quoted text> Wondering, Lilmargi, anybody who really knows this. Pelham had a brother William Humphrey, and a sister Sally(Sallie) Humphrey if they were all Humphrey's then why would Sally's decendents not be heirs just the same as William's? William and Sally are the same kin to Pelham. I have seen where Pelhams sister was Betsie Jane Humphries and William was the brother, also a half brother named Elisha V Humphries Jr. I have never paid for the probate myself. I am going on court cases files previously. sorry Hallie if I can find more I will.
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Hallie
AOL
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Somewhere OTR wrote: <quoted text> Go to this genealogy (I posted it) http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi... It will link you to Pelham Humphrey, his father David, his sister, Sarah (Sallie) Humphrey and her husband, William Claude Roberts. William Claude Roberts was also married to Sarah Walling, whose parents were James Walling and Phoebe Jones. James was a son of James W. Walling and Mary White, who also had a son by the name of John Walling. This John married Anna Chisum. Getting back to a daughter of William Claude Roberts and Sarah Walling -- Elizabeth (Betsey) Roberts. Her husband was John Swindle. John directly connects to Billy Swindle. So he connects to John Swindle, Pelham Humphrey, John Walling, etc. When you get to Elizabeth (Betsey) Roberts go to the Descendancy link and it will take you right down to Billy Phillip Swindle, my 1st cousin. Also go to Sarah (Sallie)Humphrey and then to the Descendancy link and it will take you Cason Swindle. Matter if fact you can go back this far if you like. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi... This takes you back to Abraham (Ibrahim) Ben Terah and his wife Sarah Sarah Bas Terah Did you know that Abraham is one of the many great grandfathers of John Walling? THANKS OTR
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no good news
Commerce, GA
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Do you have any idea how many people have came forward. Claiming to be the heirs of P. Humphries. there were lots of them like 12 different family that all came forward. But, You had to prove it. It not Like you could get a DNA test. But, it was though going to prove it. But, little by little each family was dis-proved and then. They had a case to go forward. After all of that the rightful heirs proved there case. I do not know where it is going for sure. But, it you are just reading from books. Each story has a different family. That is suppose to be the heirs. Hope this helps
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Oklahoma City, OK
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Thanks to all you veterans out there? Have a good week!
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lilmargi
Frankfort, IN
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Where did all the Humphries go? Did they send you a letter telling you... You will loose your money if you post on the internet? I hope that is not the case here. Why if something is complete and finished would you have to stop sharing? Just making a observation not trying to be rude. I just remember when other leaders demanded us of the Forums said they would take our share away. Guess what they legally cannot do that to you. If you are a heir it is yours dont let them dangle you by a string. Also it is very different now then it has been for them to lie about cases as they have the last hundred years. Everything legal can be seen online o matter if it is free or has a small cost. The net has became a handy tool to stop them all from scamming people anymore.
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Globetrekker
Littleton, CO
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lilmargi wrote: Where did all the Humphries go? Did they send you a letter telling you... You will loose your money if you post on the internet? I hope that is not the case here. Why if something is complete and finished would you have to stop sharing? Just making a observation not trying to be rude. I just remember when other leaders demanded us of the Forums said they would take our share away. Guess what they legally cannot do that to you. If you are a heir it is yours dont let them dangle you by a string. Also it is very different now then it has been for them to lie about cases as they have the last hundred years. Everything legal can be seen online o matter if it is free or has a small cost. The net has became a handy tool to stop them all from scamming people anymore. LOL!
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lilmargi
Frankfort, IN
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Globetrekker wrote: <quoted text> LOL! No laughing matter about it Globetrekker. As I have said before you are History Repeating Itself
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Globetrekker
Littleton, CO
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lilmargi wrote: <quoted text> No laughing matter about it Globetrekker. As I have said before you are History Repeating Itself No...WE (the Humphries/Humphreys clan) are MAKING/MADE history. You claim to know so much about all of this, yet you continually keep going over and over the same points. If you REALLY knew, you would find somthing else to do with your time other than trying to get our (the Humphries/Humphreys clan) attention and rattle us. Perhaps you’re one of the people who thought they were an heir and proven not to be? At times, you come off as being so bitter and then you seem to be trying a friendship angle. What’s up with that?
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Tmack
Mooresville, NC
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Globetrekker wrote: <quoted text> No...WE (the Humphries/Humphreys clan) are MAKING/MADE history. You claim to know so much about all of this, yet you continually keep going over and over the same points. If you REALLY knew, you would find somthing else to do with your time other than trying to get our (the Humphries/Humphreys clan) attention and rattle us. Perhaps you’re one of the people who thought they were an heir and proven not to be? At times, you come off as being so bitter and then you seem to be trying a friendship angle. What’s up with that? Maybe she is really Ms. Timms for Chevron.
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RONNIE
AOL
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Alcatraz wrote: Hey, has anybody got pay back from Bea?? If you have can you tell us how much? She owes me about 4,000 dollars not counting interest. WINNERS we are and yes we own the final results . and if you have a judgement you'll never get even a penny, but i would bet your lawyers came out a winner over you .
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Alcatraz
Oklahoma City, OK
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RONNIE wrote: <quoted text> WINNERS we are and yes we own the final results . and if you have a judgement you'll never get even a penny, but i would bet your lawyers came out a winner over you . I've never hired any lawyers to sue Bea or the Association. I figure they have no money anyway. You have been asked what the association is trying to win but you never give an answer. The Pelham Humphries people have given facts, figures, estimates, and evidence about their case. It shows that they have a real case. The walling heirs, like yourself can give no details about their case. It is strange that this forum now knows more about Pelham Humphries than the Walling case which stretches back 60 years. You keep claiming that Winners You Are but even you know that the Wallings have not even won the time of day in all the times they have been in court. So I say that all you have won is a big Fat Zero, which is exactly how much information you have given out on this forum. Again a Big Fat Zero.
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Alcatraz
Oklahoma City, OK
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RONNIE wrote: <quoted text> WINNERS we are and yes we own the final results . and if you have a judgement you'll never get even a penny, but i would bet your lawyers came out a winner over you . Yeah--Ronnie--You just keep getting on here spouting nonsense,you are going to win a bunch of people over to your side!
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Oklahoma City, OK
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Alcatraz wrote: <quoted text>I've never hired any lawyers to sue Bea or the Association. I figure they have no money anyway. You have been asked what the association is trying to win but you never give an answer. The Pelham Humphries people have given facts, figures, estimates, and evidence about their case. It shows that they have a real case. The walling heirs, like yourself can give no details about their case. It is strange that this forum now knows more about Pelham Humphries than the Walling case which stretches back 60 years. You keep claiming that Winners You Are but even you know that the Wallings have not even won the time of day in all the times they have been in court. So I say that all you have won is a big Fat Zero, which is exactly how much information you have given out on this forum. Again a Big Fat Zero. Well Alcatraz, I was going to say that you are being too harsh but I can not see anything wrong with your Logic?
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lilmargi to Hallie
Frankfort, IN
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Hallie wrote: <quoted text> Wondering, Lilmargi, anybody who really knows this. Pelham had a brother William Humphrey, and a sister Sally(Sallie) Humphrey if they were all Humphrey's then why would Sally's decendents not be heirs just the same as William's? William and Sally are the same kin to Pelham. The only full brother was William the other siblings were half, thus making William and his blood heirs the only true heirs.
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u bet cha
Littleton, CO
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lilmargi to Hallie wrote: <quoted text> The only full brother was William the other siblings were half, thus making William and his blood heirs the only true heirs. She is right!
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Oklahoma City, OK
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Hey, everybody, have a blessed Thanksgiving.
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