PR calls for judicial review of multi-million advances on Fua'amotu leases

Jun 3, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Matangi Tonga

Government payouts amounting to over $3 million pa'anga to three royal estate holders are being challenged by Sione Taione, a People's Representative to the Tonga Legislative Assembly, who filed an application with the Nuku'alofa Supreme Court on 29 May for a Judicial Review.

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Malo aupito Siua for your reply. It has been difficult disagreeing with any of the things you have said as I agree with most of it. I agree and think there was a conflict of interest between the PM and Princess, i also think the renovation of the palace was not in the best interest of the nation and I think Ashika was a terrible tragedy that could have been avoided. And many other things that you have pointed out. You have also brought up a lot of issues of where people in power may be breaking the law, and I think that too needs changing or more thorough investigations.
Having all these things happening in our little island nation, the question I'd like to focus on, is less on the past and more on what should we do or what can we do about it. If we think the law was broken by people in administration or if we think the courts are biased, the course of action to take in front of us is to protest, peaceful protest to be exact.
With that I believe the riots were foolish and shameful that took Tonga back many years, considering how empty kolo was of buildings, it really did take us back many years.
What I'd like to stress is that treason is on an entirely different level, a dark road that fools would tread on especially considering that many non-violent ways of protest are not fully utilized. Yes actions by authorities in the past have probably led to increased instability, but the great crime of treason comes with way more instability. Plus, there is no democracy in treason. There is no vote for which we may see what the majority actually wants. Treason IS a crime against the state and it does increase instability, all of which is something I'm trying to make clear to boru77.
Nobles are part of Tongan society so they deserve seats in Parliament. Nobles are people just like you and me, so they can just as easily abuse power for personal gain as some people reps have done. I don't know if you can have a democracy without parliament so I don't think it is something we can ignore, maybe it requires people to pay closer attention to what their reps are up to.
Rome wasn't built in a day, so I reckon let's all relax, be patient, enjoy life, and know even for things like democracy, it takes time.
Know whatever anyone says about you, your greatest name to fame is a procrastinator, an advocate an agent for the criminal aristocracy
yes democracy takes time, what a load of BS
tell that to the children who are dying in the hospital today from preventable diseases and injuries who will not be medically evacuated to New Zealand because the King doesn't want a pay for it
have they got time to lose? So my little ignorant friend who accuses everybody of treachery treason and sedition
so look into the eyes of the little boy, the little 14-year-old boy that's got a broken back in hospital at the moment, where the surgery capacity of the hospital is not up to scratch, and he is slowly wasting away his life while his mother fans him with a hand-held coconut palm
go until that the kid and his family and that we have to wait until the nobles get paid in advance for their leases, because they can see the writing on the wall and they are ponying up the money so they can make a quick exit.
And the King gives the money to them with both hands
while the teenager in hospital is dying for the lack of $1000 ticket to New Zealand
I think you are so immature that you don't see the fact that this is real and what we can talk about has real consequences for people
when the riots happened in 06, eight people were burnt to death

I think you should contemplate all this for a while, even though your IQ goes up and down with the temperature of the room, maybe one day you may see the light

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endless verbal diarrhea Mr. Gus M!!!

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Boru77 so why aren't you and your cohorts ponying up the $1000 to help this kid....cmon man you gotta walk the walk...when you see a problem do something about it..."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country".....can I get a hell yeah!!!....hihihihi
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Malo aupito Siua for your reply. It has been difficult disagreeing with any of the things you have said as I agree with most of it. I agree and think there was a conflict of interest between the PM and Princess, i also think the renovation of the palace was not in the best interest of the nation and I think Ashika was a terrible tragedy that could have been avoided. And many other things that you have pointed out. You have also brought up a lot of issues of where people in power may be breaking the law, and I think that too needs changing or more thorough investigations.
Having all these things happening in our little island nation, the question I'd like to focus on, is less on the past and more on what should we do or what can we do about it. If we think the law was broken by people in administration or if we think the courts are biased, the course of action to take in front of us is to protest, peaceful protest to be exact.
With that I believe the riots were foolish and shameful that took Tonga back many years, considering how empty kolo was of buildings, it really did take us back many years.
Hi again Eagger, If you read Boruone77 and Kauvaka's posts, I am sure for a peson that seems to have a sound education like yourself, your heart just about cry out in agony knowing full well that while we are discussing how the money being used wildly and foolishly by our royal and leaders of our dear country, young children and innocent parents pay the consequences of our leaders behavior by spending money that was cleverly stolen from the taxpayer's fund.

You don't have to look far to know what happened in our government and their system of government. It had been going for years, but never anyone strong enough to challenge.

So Eagger, I am not too sure what you have in mind that cause you to take you mind and heart away from the real issue, and that is, our leaders continue to unwisely misused taxpayer's money, and if someone challenge them, then they, with their supporters will cook up recipe to save their skin.

No one talk about treason until you appear on the screen, because no one ever think about this kind of things. Even the riot in the past. No one think about it, because no one in Tonga want their beloved island to be destroy. Ka 'oka hokohoko atu hono lohiaki'i 'a e kakai mo ngaue tavale'aki ho nau ivi, pea 'oku 'ikai ha'a nau toe fili ka koe pau ke nau lea atu 'i he ngaahi founga kehekehe. Pea na'e ki'i ngali fakailifia 'a e vela 'a e ngaahi fale pea mo e mo'ui ne mole.'Eagger, ka 'oku tau lotu mo faka'amu ke 'oua na'a to e hoko ha me'a pehee,'a e mo'ui na'e mole, mo e koloa na'e vela. Pea ka hokohoko atu 'a e 'ikai ngaue lelei 'a e lao 'o e fonua ke malu'i 'a e ki'i seniti pea ke tufotufa tatau hono ki'i koloa ki he kakai, pea tau mateuteu aa ki he fu'u mafi 'o e kakai 'i he 'enau kumi ha unga'anga 'enau fanau ki he kaha'u.

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Boru77 so why aren't you and your cohorts ponying up the $1000 to help this kid....cmon man you gotta walk the walk...when you see a problem do something about it..."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country".....can I get a hell yeah!!!....hihihihi
Raider4life, you should know better then this. And that is, if any service that are under the government, that is means thay run it as well as finance. And lots of help from other country are willing to come and help. Even other services like education, agriculture, fishery and others, but I don't know why your raider don't pick up how the money disappeared through the pocket of our leaders hahahahahaha. Maybe you are one of those hungry shard hihihihihihihihi
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endless verbal diarrhea Mr. Gus M!!!
Hey bro, have you forgot to take your medicine this morning? Remember to take two at the time, three times per day. Take after eating some food hahahahahahaha. Your diarrhea will absolutely gone you follow the rule stick to your bottle of medicine hihihihihihi.

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Boru77 so why aren't you and your cohorts ponying up the $1000 to help this kid....cmon man you gotta walk the walk...when you see a problem do something about it..."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country".....can I get a hell yeah!!!....hihihihi
Raider, I don't know how old you are but you sound like a juvenile, asking me to pony up the thousand dollars? To save the life of a 14-year-old boy?
Obviously your education didn't go past primary school, I am high lighting a problem, and advocating for a solution
at the end of the day this poor boy will die, his parents will go away and bury him, and for the most part the dead kids parents will not be blaming the Royal family.
They will be blaming God, and the lack of their own resources.
You see my silly little friend, it's easy for me to pony up $1000 and help this kid out, but what about the next? And the next and the next?
We need to save everybody today, and everybody in the future, and it's people like you who are condemning these children to do to a slow lingering death now and in the future, because you defend the indefensible
you defend a system that robs the poor people, to deliver luxury to rich
tried to deny my stupid little friend
like it was said in another post by another person, you're one of these thieving little shi@ts, aren't you.
I gave you a warning last time to leave your drunken mother alone,
obviously, you can't keep your hands off her.

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<quoted text>Raider, I don't know how old you are but you sound like a juvenile, asking me to pony up the thousand dollars? To save the life of a 14-year-old boy?
Obviously your education didn't go past primary school, I am high lighting a problem, and advocating for a solution
at the end of the day this poor boy will die, his parents will go away and bury him, and for the most part the dead kids parents will not be blaming the Royal family.
They will be blaming God, and the lack of their own resources.
You see my silly little friend, it's easy for me to pony up $1000 and help this kid out, but what about the next? And the next and the next?
We need to save everybody today, and everybody in the future, and it's people like you who are condemning these children to do to a slow lingering death now and in the future, because you defend the indefensible
you defend a system that robs the poor people, to deliver luxury to rich
tried to deny my stupid little friend
like it was said in another post by another person, you're one of these thieving little shi@ts, aren't you.
I gave you a warning last time to leave your drunken mother alone,
obviously, you can't keep your hands off her.
hey bolo77 you and your hundreds of followers put your money together and save a life is all I'm saying...you cant fix the system but you are able to save a life which will actually help your cause...now if you keep hanging with me you'll see how I offer good advice so even a uneducated idiot like yourself can understand...hihihihihi....you welcome!!

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you refer to boruone77 in his real name as Mr. McLean
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raider4life wrote:
<quoted text> hey bolo77 you and your hundreds of followers put your money together and save a life is all I'm saying...you cant fix the system but you are able to save a life which will actually help your cause...now if you keep hanging with me you'll see how I offer good advice so even a uneducated idiot like yourself can understand...hihihihihi....you welcome!!
Raider, Boruone77 is right, if the system will not fix, and, any aid money goes to help Tonga or the hospital for that matter, it will swallow up by the system as the normal practice of the government hahahahahaha.

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Raider, Boruone77 is right, if the system will not fix, and, any aid money goes to help Tonga or the hospital for that matter, it will swallow up by the system as the normal practice of the government hahahahahaha.
yes and you cant fix the system but dont let that stop you fron helping the sick boy....you and bolo know all the problems but have no answers....hihihihihih
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<quoted text> yes and you cant fix the system but dont let that stop you fron helping the sick boy....you and bolo know all the problems but have no answers....hihihihihih
My dear boy Raider, the answer to our problem is simple, and that is, if you stop right now your comment, in supporting the government, like what the civil servants done few years ago, when they all stop work. And the government came to a halt.

So, if you want a good government, the leaders must be a Jorry good bloke hahahahahaha. You maybe one of the good leader lol

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My dear boy Raider, the answer to our problem is simple, and that is, if you stop right now your comment, in supporting the government, like what the civil servants done few years ago, when they all stop work. And the government came to a halt.
So, if you want a good government, the leaders must be a Jorry good bloke hahahahahaha. You maybe one of the good leader lol
id rather die then be on the same team as bolo77.....hihihihi....long live the king long live the king long live the king....lmao
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<quoted text> id rather die then be on the same team as bolo77.....hihihihi....long live the king long live the king long live the king....lmao
What a shame Raider that you missed your opportunity to stand up and against those criminal leaders while you still breath the fresh air that was given freely to you, in hope that you'll use them wisely. However, you chose a different path to sing haleluia to the king lol hahahahahahaha Keep it up boy, you may become a Tongan High Commissioner to Great Britain if you continue singing that tune of hail!!!! haleluia!!!!!!! to the king lol hhihhihiihihiihihihihihi

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What a shame Raider that you missed your opportunity to stand up and against those criminal leaders while you still breath the fresh air that was given freely to you, in hope that you'll use them wisely. However, you chose a different path to sing haleluia to the king lol hahahahahahaha Keep it up boy, you may become a Tongan High Commissioner to Great Britain if you continue singing that tune of hail!!!! haleluia!!!!!!! to the king lol hhihhihiihihiihihihihihi
pili you know like they say ' don't force the horse' maybe after bologna77 is gone then ill join you guys...hihihihihi....tuetuetue tue!!!
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<quoted text> pili you know like they say ' don't force the horse' maybe after bologna77 is gone then ill join you guys...hihihihihi....tuetuetue tue!!!
Morning Raider, you don't need to join us or any human being, because, maybe one day we may fail you, but may I suggest that if you join the truth and truth will set you free, and you'll be free indeed.

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Morning Raider, you don't need to join us or any human being, because, maybe one day we may fail you, but may I suggest that if you join the truth and truth will set you free, and you'll be free indeed.
malo pili the truth is raider don't really care about politics....but I believe we should give this king our support....and when I see your democratic movement actually do something besides complain and burn down the capital then maybe I support you guys....lol
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<quoted text> malo pili the truth is raider don't really care about politics....but I believe we should give this king our support....and when I see your democratic movement actually do something besides complain and burn down the capital then maybe I support you guys....lol
Again Raider, in what way that we and our people give our support to the king, nobles and his ministers that will finally help them prove that the law of the land is apply equally to everyone. It was not work in the past, and why now, with the same people, same form of government etc.

I don't think that the people that you dislike because they are questioning the way our leaders are handling the affair of our country. We have every right to question and criticise our leaders if their action known to go beyond the law, and when it is happened, the authority ignored it and turn the other way. You should know it Raider, but if you don't have any knowledge of what going on in the members of the government and members of the royal family, then maybe you got some wrong with your brain hehehehehe lol
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<quoted text>Know whatever anyone says about you, your greatest name to fame is a procrastinator, an advocate an agent for the criminal aristocracy
yes democracy takes time, what a load of BS
tell that to the children who are dying in the hospital today from preventable diseases and injuries who will not be medically evacuated to New Zealand because the King doesn't want a pay for it
have they got time to lose? So my little ignorant friend who accuses everybody of treachery treason and sedition
so look into the eyes of the little boy, the little 14-year-old boy that's got a broken back in hospital at the moment, where the surgery capacity of the hospital is not up to scratch, and he is slowly wasting away his life while his mother fans him with a hand-held coconut palm
go until that the kid and his family and that we have to wait until the nobles get paid in advance for their leases, because they can see the writing on the wall and they are ponying up the money so they can make a quick exit.
And the King gives the money to them with both hands
while the teenager in hospital is dying for the lack of $1000 ticket to New Zealand
I think you are so immature that you don't see the fact that this is real and what we can talk about has real consequences for people
when the riots happened in 06, eight people were burnt to death
I think you should contemplate all this for a while, even though your IQ goes up and down with the temperature of the room, maybe one day you may see the light
Did you call me a procrastinator? Lol. Anyways, I've argued against people looking at treason as path for people to look at taking. I think it's just you so far that's been openly treasonous. Leave the king alone, if you support democracy then vote or participate in the next elections. I just think you should practice what you preach and honestly think of the consequences of inciting such unnecessary and violent things that you're doing..
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<quoted text>Funny name for a Tongan , Lex, I wonder did your mother run away with an American sailor, since a lot of Americans have got this particular name
so you're another one of the psychotic criminal supporters unless of course you are one of the criminals
in which case I would have more respect for you, since you would be making money out of the situation in our homeland, and you would be laughing your guts out at the psyco supporters who do it on a voluntary basis.
It always makes me laugh at these royal supporters, who haven't got to brass coins to rub together
who supports the princess taking away from the country $18 million
which equates to about $200 for each person in the country
which equates to about 1/5 of the yearly income of the average citizen
yes I just like the psychological gymnastics of these people,
the poor sods who are dying in the hospitals at the moment, from preventable causes and the government will not medically evacuate them to New Zealand, are properly with our last breaths, giving thanks to the Royal family, how pathetic
'oku ou tui na'e fa'ele'i fulihi'ikehe'i mai koe, pea lolotonga ho'o kei hu mai ki tu'a kuo ke toe kai pi pe koe ia 'I ho'o fine'eiki.....hahahahahaaaaaaa aaa.

'alu 'o fakatonga'i 'ena keke mahino'i....hahahahahaaa.....t apali fiepoto.....lol

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