It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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Then we'll just recall all of our military from around the world. As well as cease giving aid to all countries. Let's see what you think about us then, freak.
Fat chance...you couldn't afford it...you need what they've got else you wouldn't have gone there in the first place...and you give aid to buy into other peoples business like most of you manipulative tyrants.......like the aid you are giving to the Afghani leaders and the Taliban...onyer..

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Not quite. China surpassed us in 2010. And it was ENGLAND, the DUTCH, and FRANCE that had originally started exploiting the middle and far east. Just as ENGLAND had originally done with America, Australia, Canada, China, New Zealand and others. Your knowledge of FACTUAL reality and history is ABYSMAL at best. Pull your head out.
Actually dumb arse...the first people to exploit the Americas...was the vikings(Norse) in the 11th century and they were just one of many...so my reality of history is secured...beetch...
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Actually dumb arse...the first people to exploit the Americas...was the vikings(Norse) in the 11th century and they were just one of many...so my reality of history is secured...beetch...
Hahaha hes got that one on the spot. Greenland iceland and north America all norse settlements.

The great explorers of the Atlantic.

Spanish sailors settled in some places apparently.
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Need to look at overpopulation. Gonna be a massive problem .
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Blow up India, problem solved.
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Well, you arnt wrong.. We cant really do that though..

Just gotta stop third world migration and get some effective population control happening.
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Lot of tea comes from india, dont want to disturb the plantations. I ve tried chinese teas , like someone pissed in my mouth. Ironically it was that stuff thats grown here pesticide free etc. they use a different variety of tea plant, a chinese species. I dont bloody like it. Take a chance on the indian stuff. I reccon if there was anything too hectic with pesticides they would be onto em in a jiffy. I dont know why they cant grow it here much.. Not enough liquid sunshine I suppose.

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Oh and guess what....that is just what they are saying he did...how fortuitous is that?
Who won?

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We're already there aren't we?
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Larry wrote:
Well, you arnt wrong.. We cant really do that though..
Just gotta stop third world migration and get some effective population control happening.
Meth, Crack, Chrystal and Heroine can drastically reduce the life expectancy and reproductive capacity of users. Flood the poor with drugs but keep the prices up by making it illegal.
That should help.
Then maybee a pandemic to kill the elderly to free up the baby boomer money and housing.
Perhaps introduce a cheap abortion pill also.
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Who won?
Me of course.
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Meth, Crack, Chrystal and Heroine can drastically reduce the life expectancy and reproductive capacity of users. Flood the poor with drugs but keep the prices up by making it illegal.
That should help.
Then maybee a pandemic to kill the elderly to free up the baby boomer money and housing.
Perhaps introduce a cheap abortion pill also.
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Hahaha do it through drugs.. A pandemic aye, make up a virus in the lab.. Bloody hell this is irresponsible..
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Nah mate you are looking at it in the wrong way aye, flip your cock round the other way right side up. The gun is not just a tool.
Its not a spanner, not a tape measure, not a tyre pump, not a vibrater, not a fake boob.
A gun is a tool that is designed to kill.
Not pump up car tyres, give females solo pleasure , not measure a length of pine.
A gun is a tool that is designed to kill.
That my friend is the main significance.
The firearms use is determined by the user. It is a tool for hunting, self defense and recreation. The Chinese had the idea of launching arrows with powder to defeat the armor of the time. It was designed for war. As the technology advanced. The uses increased, hunting was the next use. The matchlock, flintlock, percussion and the self contained cartridge gave even more uses to the firearm. In good hands the firearm provides food. Self defense and recreation. In evil hands it is the tool of criminals and tyrants.

The focus on the gun is shortsighted, misdirected and foolish. The focus is the user and thier intent. Direct effort there and solve the problem.

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Ban automobiles, then you wont need to go to war with every third world country in the middle east to steal theirs...eh! God knows you use most of the worlds resources...it would do wonders for the enviroment.
that is the logic you are using there in Australia since more people are killed by automobile accidents than by guns here in the US so automobiles should be banned is what you have been saying.

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look at the other facts that don't look good for Australia like Rape victims which ranks 5th and is 150% higher than in the US and Total Crime Victims Australia ranks #1 and is 43% higher than here in the US and those are the facts you seemed to left out of your posting.

http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia...

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<quoted text>that is the logic you are using there in Australia since more people are killed by automobile accidents than by guns here in the US so automobiles should be banned is what you have been saying.
We always use logic....we are not yanks.

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<quoted text>look at the other facts that don't look good for Australia like Rape victims which ranks 5th and is 150% higher than in the US and Total Crime Victims Australia ranks #1 and is 43% higher than here in the US and those are the facts you seemed to left out of your posting.
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Australia...
God I have been through this a million times...don't you yanks read other posts.....we list all sexual assault under rape as do most civilised countries...it has only been in the last year or so that the yanks decided to join the party....ie...we include fondling, male on male, female on female attempted rape, flashers, male on female, child molestation, child rape, pedophilia etc...you only list male on female penetration as rape...and most cases never get reported.. So now if you are going to use a statistic to state your case at least get it right....No statistic is effective 100% in fact most of them are useless to use when used to try and prove a point because it is almost impossible that they can be accurate...Australians use one of the most accurate ways of detailing their crime statistics and they still should not be used as anything other than a wild guide...the fact that you don't know this makes you seem young or clueless....or a yank...oops two out of three ain't bad eh!
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The firearms use is determined by the user. It is a tool for hunting, self defense and recreation. The Chinese had the idea of launching arrows with powder to defeat the armor of the time. It was designed for war. As the technology advanced. The uses increased, hunting was the next use. The matchlock, flintlock, percussion and the self contained cartridge gave even more uses to the firearm. In good hands the firearm provides food. Self defense and recreation. In evil hands it is the tool of criminals and tyrants.
The focus on the gun is shortsighted, misdirected and foolish. The focus is the user and thier intent. Direct effort there and solve the problem.
you really think you are going to convince everyone in America to be good boys and girls with their guns. You think that is going to work?

Seriously?

You actually believe that you are going to get every single person in America doing the right thing?

No accidents, no murders, no mass shootings, no threatening?

In Australia people still smoke cigarette, we know ich its bad for healt.h and causes lung cancer, but some people still disagree and orchoose ti smoke.

cigarette s cause lung cancer, intelligent people know that. Some people still disagree. Not many people smoke in Australia now,they ate a dieing breed. Most people realuse it is bad for health, but the biggest ffactor in reducing smoking has come from government action directly addressing the problem and most people understand, they co operate and we get somethinf done and get results.

Guns no different. Problem identified, coopetation, we got something done.

I see the mighty cigarette as no differwnt to the gun.

Its not the cigarette its the person wearing shoes that lights the smoke. You might say.

Its not the gun, its the person you might say.

Well I m here to tell you

It is the cigarette

It is the gun

We reduced lung cancer deaths

We recuced shooting deaths

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We always use logic....we are not yanks.
Yeah right, and that is why the Total Crime Victims in Australia ranks #1 and is 43% higher than here in the US because of logic being used in Australia and is the same logic being used in Chicago Illinois too and why the crime rate is so high.

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God I have been through this a million times...don't you yanks read other posts.....we list all sexual assault under rape as do most civilised countries...it has only been in the last year or so that the yanks decided to join the party....ie...we include fondling, male on male, female on female attempted rape, flashers, male on female, child molestation, child rape, pedophilia etc...you only list male on female penetration as rape...and most cases never get reported.. So now if you are going to use a statistic to state your case at least get it right....No statistic is effective 100% in fact most of them are useless to use when used to try and prove a point because it is almost impossible that they can be accurate...Australians use one of the most accurate ways of detailing their crime statistics and they still should not be used as anything other than a wild guide...the fact that you don't know this makes you seem young or clueless....or a yank...oops two out of three ain't bad eh!
you don't like the facts that are true and want to keep denying them besides just look at the suicide rate in Australia compared to the US and you Australians kept posting that after the guns were banned it went down but it is still higher than the US who allows their citizen to possess guns so it proves guns were not the problem for Australia's suicide rate or extremely higher then.

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