Glad I Left

Chesterfield, UK

#441 Sep 10, 2010
Nordmann you are an idiot, after nearly 8 years in norway, leaving was the best thing I ever did. They are the most racist, selfish and arrogant people I have ever met. They cheat each other and bully each other all the time. The country is backward compared to any modern western country and norwegians are brainwashed by all the propoganda into thinking it's the best place in the world. That's the biggest joke in norway and every foreigner knows it. You must still be in the disbelief stage that everyone goes through after they arrive, finally you will accept your status as a second class human being or you will leave. As for the salaries in norway being double, that is also just not true, I always heard that rubbish from norwegians but it is really just a pile of crap, most norwegians get around 300k nok a year and that is a lot less than I am getting now. I had to take a huge pay cut after moving to bergen. It's guys like you that propogate the bullshit that norwegians are full of, once you have been in norway a while longer you will see the place for what it is really like. Once your so called norwegian friends start stabbing you in the back or ripping you off you will maybe start to learn. Yes the women are sexy but all the beauty is on the outside, inside they are spoilt selfish ice-cold bitches! Norway has a very high divorce rate and most noggy blokes are fully aware of the high bitch factor. Even learning the language, which is pretty easy, does not make a difference, you have to become a norwegian to live in norway and that is just good old fashioned 1950's racism. By the way as for the drugs, move to bergen, it is nicknamed "little amsterdam" It's so easy to get whatever you want just about anytime you want it. Take my advice: unless you come from a place like russia or iraq then get out before your life is turned to shit by the worlds most boring and arrogant country.
Flyktig

Oslo, Norway

#442 Sep 10, 2010
Glad I Left wrote:
Nordmann you are an idiot, after nearly 8 years in norway, leaving was the best thing I ever did. They are the most racist, selfish and arrogant people I have ever met. They cheat each other and bully each other all the time. The country is backward compared to any modern western country and norwegians are brainwashed by all the propoganda into thinking it's the best place in the world. That's the biggest joke in norway and every foreigner knows it. You must still be in the disbelief stage that everyone goes through after they arrive, finally you will accept your status as a second class human being or you will leave. As for the salaries in norway being double, that is also just not true, I always heard that rubbish from norwegians but it is really just a pile of crap, most norwegians get around 300k nok a year and that is a lot less than I am getting now. I had to take a huge pay cut after moving to bergen. It's guys like you that propogate the bullshit that norwegians are full of, once you have been in norway a while longer you will see the place for what it is really like. Once your so called norwegian friends start stabbing you in the back or ripping you off you will maybe start to learn. Yes the women are sexy but all the beauty is on the outside, inside they are spoilt selfish ice-cold bitches! Norway has a very high divorce rate and most noggy blokes are fully aware of the high bitch factor. Even learning the language, which is pretty easy, does not make a difference, you have to become a norwegian to live in norway and that is just good old fashioned 1950's racism. By the way as for the drugs, move to bergen, it is nicknamed "little amsterdam" It's so easy to get whatever you want just about anytime you want it. Take my advice: unless you come from a place like russia or iraq then get out before your life is turned to shit by the worlds most boring and arrogant country.
I can agree, or at least see you point on a lot of points, except the wages bit, I'm more than doubling my U.K rate and so a lot of my mates. Doesn't make paying 8 quid for a pint any easier to accept though 8-)
Glad I Left

Chesterfield, UK

#443 Sep 10, 2010
Fair enough mate, I'm in I.T. and took quite a hefty pay cut after moving to norway. Probably because all the best jobs go to norwegians first. Could'nt even get a job washing floors until I'd learnt the language, just as well computers speak english and norwegians are not very bright. 8 quid a pint ouch. If you get to bergen go to Finnegans, the ex-pat price is 42kr for your half-litre. Still after 8 years I'll never go back, it's just not worth it. After constantly watching all my mates pack their bags and get out and with the constant norwegian bullshit it just got a little boring. Funny thing is I've to this day never met anyone who had anything good to say about norway, except of course a norwegian (when they are not complaining about the high food, beer, tobacco, car, motorbike, medicine, clothes, ......... prices)
Giggle Stick

Oslo, Norway

#445 Sep 23, 2010
Norway is boring but you get used to what you can do and when you can do it, I think they call it getting institutionalised, takes a while but do-able. Learn to ski for the winter and learn to like grill fester in the summer, job done, you're a Noggy. The grass is not greener over here, partly due to the fact it's covered in snow 70% of the fekkin time.
Inhabitant

Oslo, Norway

#446 Sep 23, 2010
Don't come to Norway. If you want an exciting, free, impulsive, warm and joyful life this is not the place for you. In Norway, everything starts with education. We go to school for almost one third of our life, before we start in boring jobs. We get indoctrinated in the idea that all should be equal, and every special trait you may have is trained away by your peers, and your school. You are supposed to be hard, disiplined, hard working, and yet warm, caring and conform. You have to like outdoors activity, if you don't you don't get others respect and you wont get friends. Unless you are a nerd. We have probably the most equal society in the world, which means that women also must pay for dinner half the time. You can't buy alcohol after eight pm. And night life closes at two am. Alot of us are social democrats. Thats a kind of semi socialism, where if you don't do anything, you still get money. But if you do not DO ANYTHING, you will be looked down upon from the rest of the Norwegians.(hence the discipline and so forth) So if you plan to come here and exploit the system, get the FUCK OUT! If you want to work, and live boring life, you are welcome. Even though we might look and act as if we like you, we can't wait for you to leave again.
Taxpaying-utland er

Jessheim, Norway

#447 Sep 24, 2010
Inhabitant wrote:
Don't come to Norway. If you want an exciting, free, impulsive, warm and joyful life this is not the place for you. In Norway, everything starts with education. We go to school for almost one third of our life, before we start in boring jobs. We get indoctrinated in the idea that all should be equal, and every special trait you may have is trained away by your peers, and your school. You are supposed to be hard, disiplined, hard working, and yet warm, caring and conform. You have to like outdoors activity, if you don't you don't get others respect and you wont get friends. Unless you are a nerd. We have probably the most equal society in the world, which means that women also must pay for dinner half the time. You can't buy alcohol after eight pm. And night life closes at two am. Alot of us are social democrats. Thats a kind of semi socialism, where if you don't do anything, you still get money. But if you do not DO ANYTHING, you will be looked down upon from the rest of the Norwegians.(hence the discipline and so forth) So if you plan to come here and exploit the system, get the FUCK OUT! If you want to work, and live boring life, you are welcome. Even though we might look and act as if we like you, we can't wait for you to leave again.
A Norwegian that speaks the honest truth, I wish more were like you. And you missed out a few details, booze till 8 yes, but you forgot to mention 1800 on a LÝrdag, never on SÝndag except lettÝl, and harder stuff in vinmonopolet which closes even bloody earlier that when you can buy beer in shops. Communist attitude if you ask me but you didn't so I won't say it. Oops, too late.
Dave

Rotherham, UK

#449 Sep 24, 2010
@ I Hate Commie Scum,

The people commenting on these thread are not "third world immigrants" but mostly immigrants (they call themselves expatriates)in Norway from the West.

@ the moaning losers on this thread,
Be thankful to your stars that you live in "boring" norway and not in the UK. Otherwise for all your odious comments on this thread about Norway, you would have started noticing unusual car movements around your homes, your mobile phones would have been picked from your pockets while out shopping, your landlords would have suddenly decided to sell their property thereby enabling strange men to gain access to your house to plant listening devices in your home while claiming to be prospective buyers, you would have observed sudden burst of activities by "repairmen" working on the telephone line leading to your property, some people would have spit at you on the street from moving trucks while shouting at you to "Go Home", you would have observed that your telephone have started making funny noise in the course of your conversation, etc. Be glad that you live in "boring" Norway.
Truth

Oslo, Norway

#451 Sep 25, 2010
I have lived in Oslo for 4 year. I would say it is a lovely country to live in for 2 years. I am leaving after the project I am working on is finished. Kudos to Norwegian society for building a good life for their people but as I am young healthy and willing to work for a living this is not the place for me personally. I have noticed outside of Oslo people tend to be nicer so perhaps it is a big city but people are rude, have no manners, will run right over you without flinching. For a people that are so well off it will take nothing to say excuse me or sorry or please. It is nothing to do with custom because their are people who say it and the words exist in the language. I have met a few nice norwegians in my time here but they are mainly people married to foreigners or who work in international oil and gas projects. Generally people are xenophobic, make broad generalisations and are brainwashed. Don't get me wrong if you have no choice it is a good safe place to make a life, if you are fortunate enough to have choices in life this is not the place to be.
Free

Wichita, KS

#453 Sep 25, 2010
Norway is probably more exciting than Kansas.
no-no

Stabekk, Norway

#457 Sep 26, 2010
maybe, Schweiz it *can* be boring for some people, but at least swiss are way more civilized, polite & mannered citizens then the NOrwegians (scandinavians in general actually) are !

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#458 Sep 26, 2010
Free wrote:
Norway is probably more exciting than Kansas.
If you think that one long weekend visit to Oslo is giving you the total overview of the pros and cons of living in Norway then you must be a jerk. Címon dude, get real! You are not a taxpayer here or you arenít facing to the backlogs of this country every day. To be honest you are not involved in this society, you are just a tourist. So, please donít try to outsmart those who are living or have lived here for many years! If you love Norway or Oslo, thatís fine. Buy a picture or a map and put them on your wall or rollíem up and put them in your ass but in the main time please, shut the f*ck up!

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#459 Sep 26, 2010
Free wrote:
Norway is probably more exciting than Kansas.
! Sorry my for former comment didnít meant to be for you.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#460 Sep 26, 2010
I HATE COMMIE SCUM wrote:
With so many BEAUTIFUL women, Norway is FAR from boring.
London is boring (I used to live there). Norway is FAR MORE exciting than London
If you think that one long weekend visit to Oslo is giving you the total overview of the pros and cons of living in Norway then you must be a jerk. Címon dude, get real! You are not a taxpayer here or you arenít facing to the backlogs of this country every day. To be honest you are not involved in this society, you are just a tourist. So, please donít try to outsmart those who are living or have lived here for many years! If you love Norway or Oslo, thatís fine. Buy a picture or a map and put them on your wall or rollíem up and put them in your ass but in the main time please, shut the f*ck up!
Ignorant Norwegian

Stavanger, Norway

#461 Sep 26, 2010
Interesting, i've read through the discussion and made some interesting observations. Like for instance how most of the complainers are immigrants(mainly anglos) from UK, USA and Australia.

You are the immigrants, no one forced you to come here. We don't have to change to appease you. You call us rude? Interesting, ask any holiday destination in Southern Europe or elsewhere in the world how much they love British tourists vs say Scandinavian(or anyone else), might give you a wake-up call. Because its actually YOU who tend to come across as arrogant and rude. Americans and Brits tend to live amongst their own and rarely bother to learn Norwegian language nor socialize/integrate with the society around them. Immigrants from non-Western countries appear to adapt far better.

Not all immigrants are despised/disliked. I rarely hear people talk badly(a few light hearted jokes maybe, but nothing serious) about Spaniards, Italians, Poles, Russians, Tamils, Vietnamese, Ethiopians, Chinese,(to name a few)... however immigrants from predominantly Muslim countries are viewed with a certain scepticism. Why? Now thats the million dollar question isn't it?

And to watch Western immigrants play the victim card, LOL, though i've noticed how they like to group themselves with non-Western immigrants. Maybe they always wanted to be immigrants in their own countries and like living out their fantasy in Norway opposing the paler and more intolerant people(in their mind). Maybe some sort of psychoteraphy to deal with their own mistreatment of immigrants and colonial/slavery past.

As for Norway being boring? Well, depends what you like. I wouldn't wanna move to New York if i wanted peace and quiet for myself, maybe you should do yourself a favour and do more reasearch before you migrate again instead of trusting your morbid expectations? Some live boring lifes, but theres plenty of us that live social lifes and are not in need to get drunk to enjoy life. But you wouldn't know, you don't know any Norwegians it seems. Most immigrants don't have the same problem as you getting friends with Norwegians, so maybe theres the lack of doing an effort among Western immigrants that leads to their high dissapointment and isolation?

Or do you imply its a national duty that Norwegians should invite you? Well, from all the bitter talk i see here i don't blame people for not. If you have lived in Norway for a decade and is unable to make friends then its you theres something wrong with.

And one last thing, don't like it? Leave. Last time i checked theres no laws forcing you to stay.
Inhabitant

Oslo, Norway

#462 Sep 26, 2010
The thing is, that Sweden, Norway and Denmark now are starting to see what a too liberal immigration policy leads to. Especially Sweden are starting really to rot from the inside. The Naive Swedes have silently looked their citys beeing taken over by Somalis, Kurds, Pakis, Yogoslavis,... In these gettho like areas the unemployment rate is close to 80%!!! In Norway ONE THIRD, and rising, of our social-service budget (ment to help, old, sick, unemployed) goes to feed giant muslim/african families, that increases with one child a year (because children increases their welfare money).
There are an increasing rage going on. The new thing is that the tolerant left, is also starting to see the warning signs, and act upon them.

The opposite argument is, "Sure, but we can afford it". It's no big deal. After a few generations they will be assimilated, working, living.. Really. Let's see. The amount of Norwegians reaching pension age is actually doubling during the next ten years. All of them are a part of the spoiled after war generation. They want their money. The oil fund today is actually NOT enough to cover pension payments more than say 2050. IF the muslims/africans continue to produce children in the same rate, become criminals, and live on welfare money, we don't have enough of it.

I am not a racist. I am a realist. I have worked with immigrants who were excellent people. I bumped into an african guy on the way home from a drunken night, and we had a long discussion. He was from eritrea. Learned the language as fast as he could, got an education in Nursing school, bought an appartment and had alot of friends, both african and Norwegians. HE told ME, that he hated that alot of his friends didn't lift a finger for getting on with their lives. "They make me embarrassed of being African." They make my life harder, because of the stereotypes Norwegians apply when they see areas of the city packed with khat chewing folks with muslim hats. "I'm not like them." HE WANTED TO VOTE FOR FRP,the most immigrant hostile party in the storting(congress).

So there you have it. I see alot of people are thinking about moving, and living here. You are welcome. But we aren't naive anymore.

And one more thing: We are secular. Almost no-one actually believe in a GOD. If they do, it's Just for cultural reasons, it doesn't keep them from having sex before marriage, drink alcohol, swear, etc.. The official number of non-religous are climbing, but i think is close to 60%. So if you believe strongly, expect to rise some eyebrows.
no-no

Stabekk, Norway

#463 Sep 26, 2010
@ignorant norwegian: don't even try to fool someone, with saying that an individual (not necessary from NOrway)in his own country behaves the same as when being a turist OUTSIDE his home country... he/she can easily be a bitch with 2 faces, so to speak....

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#465 Sep 26, 2010
I HATE COMMIE SCUM wrote:
Reply to Akiba, for fucks sake if you don't like living in Norway, then why are you still living there, SHUT THE FUCK UP, buy a plane ticket and move to Pakistan (or what ever third world hellhole you came from). Nobody is forcing you to reside in Norway I am aware of the high taxes of Norway, I oppose socialism (as I am a conservative). What may come as a shock to you, is that I know quite a lot about Norway. The Norwegians should vote for the Progress Party, stop giving welfare to ungrateful muslim immigrants. Muslims comprise of 2% of Norways population, yet use up almost 50% of the countries welfare. Europe is beginning to realize the mistakes of "liberal immigration policies". To make Norway a better place, the Norwegian government should deport the muslims, make islam illegal. Islam, liberalism and socialism are a CANCER to the western countries. I am sick to death of hearing muslims play the victim card "oh we are victims of racism". Immigration from muslim countries has poisoned numerous European countries, Netherlands, Sweden, France, Spain, UK (my home country).
In Oslo, muslim men rape Norwegian women (covered up by the liberal media). I may not live in Norway, but am aware of what is going on.
And for all you annoying muslims who complain about the western way out life, go and move back to your countries of origin if life is so great there.
RE "ignorant Norwegian", let me explain to you why these third world immigrants decide to migrate to more developed countries, because WE ARE MORE ADVANCED. I am sick to death of hearing these third world immigrants complain about how they are mistreated, if they were still living in their slums, they would be living in mudhuts.
And don't lump Chinese, Italians, Spanish, Eastern Europeans into the same group as somalians, arabs, turks THEY ARE THE PROBLEM.
Actually I came from Western Europe so donít send me to Pakistan or something like that. And if you are trying to lecture me about my anxiety related to high taxes I pay and this communist government spends on third world crap then you can kiss my pale ass!
Inhabitant

Oslo, Norway

#467 Sep 26, 2010
I HATE COMMIE SCUM wrote:
So what is up with the name "Akiba". I am aware that the current government of Norway is a marxist, yet I don't understand why the Norwegians re-elected this clown, I would have expected better from the Norwegians. I lived in a communist society, it was called Britain, hard working citizens like myself had to pay 50% income tax, I had enough and moved to Canada, while the communist labour government gave third world immigrants, welfare, homes (everything).
It is time for Norway to vote for the Progress Party, to put a stop to third world immigration. The marxist Labour Party of Norway is using these immigrants for political gain,these third world immigrants will vote for the communist Labour Party of Norway.
Yeah right. Vote for them, and you will have inflation within a month. Privatizing of hospitals, schools, roads etc.. They think they will build up Norway with just setting down taxes, privatizing. Still they want to use MORE oil money, than any other party. and IF the economy growns, we need more labour... so, they can't afford to keep the immigrants out. You seem to be a bit more hostile to regulations than myself (Commie hater that you are) I think the system is fantastic. A pay taxes with love. But NOT if 30 % of the social budget is used on Giant Muslim/African families that hang around,freeloading. I agree with you on one thing though: Keep immigration to an absolut minimum. We can't absorb anymore.
Inhabitant

Oslo, Norway

#469 Sep 27, 2010
I HATE COMMIE SCUM wrote:
RE Inhabitant, if you continue vote for the Labour party, Norway will receive more third world immigrants who will NOT integrate. You want to minimize immmigration, yet want to vote for a socialist party who will actually increase immigration.
Think about this, to remain in power the Labour Party of Norway will allow the influx of more third world immigrants for VOTES!!!!! More third world immigrants=more votes for the Labour Party, and if you believe that the Labour Party is going to minimize immigration YOU ARE MISTAKEN.
The Progress Party has some great ideas, reduce the tax burden, to help stimulate economic growth, cut off the generous welfare for the third world immigrants, stop immigration from third world countries. Some great ideas.
With the Porgress Party, Norway will become a much more efficient and have a more economy. The private sector is always more efficient than the public sector.
Think about this, if the Progress Party were to become elected, reduced the tax burden, there would be an incentive for investors to invest in Norway's economy.
Privitization is a positive thing, rather than a negative, private schools tend to be better than public schools (I know this having been to a private school). With regards to hospitals, private hospitals tend to be better than public sector hospitals (that I know from research)
The progress party are populists. I doubt that their politic are even possible to carry through. I also doubt that we will experience a vast increment i efficiency with privatizing the public sector. In the US they have vast expensive hospitals,where there are more administrators than Nurses and doctors. And it's expensive. I agree that in some sectors there would probably be better with privatizing, but genereally i believe the costs outways the benefits. In regard to immigrants, i think that some of them, should be allowed to come. But not the fortune seekers.
The Labour party also acknowledges that immigration should be reduced. I think that our society as a whole is better off with social democracy than with hardcore capitalism. The differences between the "elite" and lower classes will increase. It is possible to maintain our system, without paying one third to immigrants.
Ignorant Norwegian

Stavanger, Norway

#472 Sep 27, 2010
The progress party won't do shit even if they got the power. Not a single one of the represented political parties(nor politicians) care enough about the country to raise a finger or voice against the enforced immigration. Its to late to even change it now, withouth violating "human rights" that is. More will come, and more will have family reuinions. The best thing for Norwegians to do is actually not contribute more than they have to(work,.) Got anything special going(creating new firm, special idea for new construction,.. writing a new book, creativity in general that might result in extra income), go to another country rather than contribute it here. There is nothing motivating about enrichening the society any furhter now anyway, when you know where the money are heading.

And its not to the declining health services, the elders who built this country, roads, police, army, infrastructure,...but to the 3rd world outside Norway, and its inhabitants residing within our borders. Let alone the massive bureacacy.

New cuts and increasing taxes but still stagnation is alarming enough to me. Immigration(at least from certain areas of the world) are costing a fortune, and its going to eat up the entire oil fund. And then what? The country will go bankgrupt, and all those "new" Norwegians will show their true colors and tucktail to the next waterpond to exploit. A few might stay, but the vast majority will not be interested in sacrificing shit to rebuild it. Thats why i don't consider them as true Norwegians and never will, unless they prove themselves otherwise. Time will show though.

A piece of paper is not making you Norwegian(not anymore than i become Somali if i move to Mogadishu or Chinese by moving to China...). Unless you are blindly believing a dog born in a stable automatically becomes a horse. 99% of Norwegians are hardly nationalist, ignorant perhaps and believing they are living in paradice, yes. But far from racist. I am not a very tolerant person i guess(ye probably evil racist). Most don't care. They live day by day and don't think much further.

Ideally, what Norway needs is a nationalistic and traditional labour party that won't hesitate on enforcing restrictions. It won't be happening anway, so no need to go batshit about it(all you liberal world citizens out there prepared to go crazy on my idea.).

As much as i would like to see a Norway withouth massive immigration, i reckon its happening whether people like it or not. The only thing we could hope for is the oil to dissappear magically, leading the country to go bankrupt so the world might leave us alone once more.

But, seeing how ignorant most Norwegians are of this i have already given up all hope on improving the situation. Let in the whole world, its going to be a party where everyone hold hands and sing songs just like in the suburbs of France :)
Now ho do i cope with immigrants in Norway then? Except for a few exeptions, I ignore them the best i can. I might give them a smile, hold the door, stuff like that.. But inside i feel no compassion for them, regardless of color. Personally i think the best thing is to not give them reasons to whine to the media about "wacism". Just let it roll and we'll see what happens. Theres only a mere 4.000.000 ethnic Norwegians, the rest (500.000++) are immigrants(not counting illegals). Sure looks exciting.

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