Blacks crimerates not welcomed in Norway

[Tarsan]

The Truth About Black Crime
by: R Jeneen Jones

Early last year, I wrote an article entitled "Who's Afraid of Black Men?",
which raised the issue of how society views black men as criminals,
regardless of their true nature. After posting the feature, I received tons
of email. While most African Americans praised my comments, many non-blacks
agreed that black men are generally violent and aggressive law breakers.
After all, one just has to look at the statistics. In all fairness, I decided
to do just that and discovered some very interesting details:

Among men, blacks (28.5%) are about six times more likely than whites (4.4%)
to be admitted to prison during their life. Among women, 3.6% of blacks and
0.5% of whites will enter prison at least once.(U.S. Department of Justice)
Based on current rates of incarceration, an estimated 7.9% of black males
compared to 0.7% of white males will enter State of Federal prison by the
time they are age 20 and 21.4% of black males versus 1.4% of white males will
be incarcerated by age 30.(U.S. Department of Justice)
Some have noted that more black men are in prison in America than are in
college.(The Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128)

Statistics on black crime are, on the surface, very bleak. There are,
however, some very important factors that help to influence the numbers.
Consider those and a strong case for a much different view unfolds. Since 62%
of persons admitted to Federal prison and 31.1% of those admitted to State
prison for the first time were sentenced because of drug offenses, let us
first take a look at the racial disparity in the war on drugs:

The National Institute of Drug Abuse estimated that while 12 percent of drug
users are black, they make up nearly 50 percent of all drug possession
arrests in the U.S.(The Black and White of Justice, Freedom Magazine, Volume 128)
According to the National Drug Strategy Network, although African Americans
make up less than one-third of the population in Georgia, the black arrest
rate for drugs is five times greater than the white arrest rate. In addition,
since 1990, African Americans have accounted for more than 75% of persons
incarcerated for drug offenses in Georgia and make up 97.7% of the people in
that state who are given life sentences for drug offenses.

[Rob]

I think blacks might be being treated unfair in the case of drug crime but obviously violent crime and racially motivated violent crime is a huge problem in the black community not only in the US but also in Canada. Blacks make up a small amount of the population but the vast majority of racially motivated violent crime, violent crime and sexual assaults are committed by blacks. I have seen this denied many times on tv by the black community just watch BET.

If you can't take stock of problems in your own community and need to blame society and the justice system for your woes how can you expect to make any progress?

[A Guy]

Hmmmm... Good comments Tarsan. Unfortunately, I think you have confused Rob with the facts. Or perhaps he is just stuck in that "all blacks are criminal" mentality and not really interested in the dynamics that are responsible for, or at least contribute to, these bleak statistics.

[Norskejente]

I believe that in order to really get a grip on all these statistics you need to go to the root of these problems. And they are 1.) family values, 2.) Monetary worth, and 3.) education. Ask these criminals about their life and you will find some very interesting facts. Here in America we still have a long way to go on the issue of equality. One other major problem is the fact that many blacks here, I believe, are still very bitter of what was done to their ancestors and even family members that are still alive.. Whites on the other hand, their attitude is get over it. In 50 yrs ask a white person about Sept 11th and I am almost certian they'll still be bitter over it. As for me, I don't care what color, nationality, or religion you believe in, as long as you are a good, kind and compassionate person. Unfortunately there are too many people who wouldn't agree.

[AL gore my hero]

GO live in a black ghetto for twenty years then you might have an inkling of what you are talking about .I posted a nice long story of my experiences as a blue eyed devil but the info nazi on this board censored it because i wrote the n word in describing the language the afro people use constantly

[aztec]

Tarsan. you never said what the black crime rate is in norway well? I bet it is low because the economy is the second highest in the world next to the swiss. Poverty causes crime. No matter what you say. It has been this way since the beginning. The whites bring blacks into their country create a poverty economic base for them, deny them resources and tell them to do the best you can or die, then they make laws to punish them for trying and then call them crimnals when they develop innovative ways to make money. The US did the same to the Italians and Irish. This is why you have the Mafia. Think about it.
Thanks NORSK for your realism

[Gimmel Ronskiggaard]

I have lived in America and I have to say that while living in Oakland and San Francisco it was black people committing crime and not white people. I dislike being around black people because they are loud. I have some black friends but they are educated. Most black people in America do not choose to become educated. It is too bad.

[deida]

aztec wrote:

Tarsan. you never said what the black crime rate is in norway well? I bet it is low because the economy is the second highest in the world next to the swiss. Poverty causes crime. No matter what you say. It has been this way since the beginning. The whites bring blacks into their country create a poverty economic base for them, deny them resources and tell them to do the best you can or die, then they make laws to punish them for trying and then call them crimnals when they develop innovative ways to make money. The US did the same to the Italians and Irish. This is why you have the Mafia. Think about it.
Thanks NORSK for your realism

i would say your a racist, and you don't do america ny justice by that attitude, i live in a white ghetto and i would say the same about your race, you are uniformed and biased. because you lived somewhere does not make you an expert, i lived in northern irealnd for five years and i still can't figure uout the system. if norway is racist i am not going to visit it

[deida]

I was going to visit Norway this fallm i have since decided not to based on some of the comment it seem that the general attitude isn't good for minorities.... I will spend my hard earned dollars somwhere else

[deida]

Gimmel Ronskiggaard wrote:

I have lived in America and I have to say that while living in Oakland and San Francisco it was black people committing crime and not white people. I dislike being around black people because they are loud. I have some black friends but they are educated. Most black people in America do not choose to become educated. It is too bad.

to hear you say susch things let me know that Norway is not a welcoming country or that you have a small mind. your comment should extend to others, whites are loud as well really loud and ignorant, education mean nothing, most of the white poplulation are educated but they , rape people , sell drugs, steal from large corporations, abuse their kids beat their wives, steal cars adn travel on false identities. and you should be ashamed. yes i am of the opinion norway is a rascist country

[nikaw]

Gimmel Ronskiggaard wrote:

I have lived in America and I have to say that while living in Oakland and San Francisco it was black people committing crime and not white people. I dislike being around black people because they are loud. I have some black friends but they are educated. Most black people in America do not choose to become educated. It is too bad.

Ok... This is the most ignorant thing I have read in a while... Please stop making generalizations based on race. There are good and bad people in every race. There are whites and blacks that commit crimes alike. I am one of those 'educated' Black Americans that you speak of and I must wonder about your so called 'black friends.' If they read this I don't think I any of them would want anything else to do with you.

Deida, I am planning a trip to Scandinavia and a trip to Norway is on my itinerary. I was researching the culture and people when I came acoss this blog. I am still going because I believe that the ignorance of one or two people does not represent Norway as a whole. If you were planning to go, then go, don't let someone else's ignorance stop you from visiting such a beautiful country.

A few of you really need to gain some enlightenment!!!

[Norskejente]

nikaw - Bravo for your comment! One of the things I have learned on the internet is the amount of ignorant people out there. Good Lord why can't people just be civil, kind and respectful? Why always the snide remarks and pointing the finger and blaming others for all the worlds broblems. People need to get a grip, think positive and always remember that there is two sides to every story. Have fun on your trip to Scandinavia, and as for the people in Norway, well you be the judge. I used to live there many yrs ago and never had a problem with anyone. Everyone was kind, polite and accomodating. I think you'll like it. Opps just don't order espresso coffee or you'll regret it for the rest of your life.:)

[Hammer of Thor]

Why the hell do norwegians make asumptions about black people in America anyway ?
Can`t we discuss Norway instead.I`m sick of being in several groups around the internet,called "Norway" Sweden" "Denmark" etc,and all they ever talk about is what goes on in America ?????

[Norskejente]

Hammer of Thor wrote:

Why the hell do norwegians make asumptions about black people in America anyway ?
Can`t we discuss Norway instead.I`m sick of being in several groups around the internet,called "Norway" Sweden" "Denmark" etc,and all they ever talk about is what goes on in America ?????

Good idea Thor. Why don't you start a forum and make a suggestion that it's about Norway and not America. I'm sure many would join you including myself. Thor the name of my Kitty. We named him Thor cause he was so tiny and sick and he needed a big name to grow into. Problem now is he's a very big, tall and muscular cat and he actually thinks he is Thor.:)

[nikaw]

Norskejente wrote:

nikaw - Bravo for your comment! One of the things I have learned on the internet is the amount of ignorant people out there. Good Lord why can't people just be civil, kind and respectful? Why always the snide remarks and pointing the finger and blaming others for all the worlds broblems. People need to get a grip, think positive and always remember that there is two sides to every story. Have fun on your trip to Scandinavia, and as for the people in Norway, well you be the judge. I used to live there many yrs ago and never had a problem with anyone. Everyone was kind, polite and accomodating. I think you'll like it. Opps just don't order espresso coffee or you'll regret it for the rest of your life.:)

Thanks for your comments and for the tips. We (my traveling buddies and I) will probably be going to Oslo (unless someone suggests some other destination) any site's or places we should be sure to visit?

[Norskejente]

nikaw wrote:

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Thanks for your comments and for the tips. We (my traveling buddies and I) will probably be going to Oslo (unless someone suggests some other destination) any site's or places we should be sure to visit?

You may want to try Bergen as it is a very beautiful city and the people are very friendly. But don't tell anyone from Oslo that you're going there and vise versa as there is a lot of rivalry between the two cities.:) You may want to consider taking the train to Bergen from Oslo as the scenery it's absolutely beautiful. When are you going and how long will you be there? I can offer more suggestions if I know how long you plan on staying. I certainly envy you as I haven't been back in years.

[nikaw]

Planning on going to Oslo, Stockholm, Rome, Prague and Greece (not sure of which city), planning a month long trip. These destinations are tentative (some of my friends have other places in mind)we are not having a meeting of the minds on Italy and Greece but this is where I would like to go.

[Norskejente]

Nikaw - Here's a link to Americans Here and there, which is a topix on the Chicago tribune newspaper. There a women named Linda whom I met on another forum, converse back and forth about our lives. She lives just outside of Oslo and she can give you a lot of info about what to see and do there. http://www.topix.com/forum/source/chicago-tri...

[Norskejente]

nikaw - Can't understand why the post printed the way it did as I didn't write it that way. Sorry. As for Greece I'd choose somewhere near the ocean. That's one of my I wish I could visit there places. I've only heard nice things about Greece and I envy you even more for all the places you plan on visiting. P.S. Do you happen to need a bag lady?:)

[nikaw]

Lol... No sorry, we are planning this trip as cheaply as possible. No bag lady needed. Staying in bed and breakfasts where we can since they are cheaper than hotels. Going to ride the Eurorail across Europe for cheaper travel. (except for Greece of course). This is why we are planning the trip a year in advance, gotta get the funds right :]