Obama's dilemma: No good options in Syria

May 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Jerusalem Post

Washington Watch: Going to war on faulty - and probably intentionally misleading - intelligence about weapons of mass destruction had to weigh on Obama's mind.

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William

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May 2, 2013
 
Oh,he has a very good option,just call it a day and stop supporting the GCC with arms and call for a peaceful resolution for once and try to save some Syrian lives.
Or is the way to Tehran has to be on the ruins of Damascus?

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I really think the US shud stay out o this false information or not let the Rebels handle they r quiet capable of handling the regime by themselves.

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William wrote:
Oh,he has a very good option,just call it a day and stop supporting the GCC with arms and call for a peaceful resolution for once and try to save some Syrian lives.
Or is the way to Tehran has to be on the ruins of Damascus?
If the US and Israel dont get Iran an the war is won by Rebels the Rebels will go for Iran to take payback. It will probably start with the rebels trying to wipe out HezbSatan which will cause Iran to come in and another war will start I think there is no rest even after the civilan war is over.
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Hitty # 4
The Rebels will go for Israel,it is much closer to them and then they may move to Europe as well,that is why Obama doesn't want them to win,the idea is to wipe Syria of the map first and let the Shiites and Sunnis kill each other and then the passage to Iran is clear.

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William wrote:
Hitty # 4
The Rebels will go for Israel,it is much closer to them and then they may move to Europe as well,that is why Obama doesn't want them to win,the idea is to wipe Syria of the map first and let the Shiites and Sunnis kill each other and then the passage to Iran is clear.
Most of the Muslim world know that Iran is the first threat. Israel comes second although there is a chance that Israel might get attacked but Iran is a bigger enemy then Israel at the moment. I dont know why u think they wud move to Europe? I doubt Obama is trying to wipe Syria from the wipe the US intervention just like in other places is usually based on controlling the political or the ruling elite of a coutry so that they can establish their puppets. Syria is in a very strategic location wiping it out wud be of no use however having control over it wud mean it cud spy on Russia, it cud Spy and work on attacking Iran from Syria
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Sorry Hitty,but I am totally lost with your logic.

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Sorry Hitty,but I am totally lost with your logic.
And wot makes u lost exactly?
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Here's your best option Obama - tell the West and your Arab lackeys to stop arming the insurgents, and force everyone to the table. Because the SNC has no credibility, not even to the Syrians, the field commanders will not lay down their arms even if the SNC agrees to peace. That is why the West has to turn off the faucet. Otherwise, Syria will in civil war for years, even if Assad falls (and I hope he does not). Listen to your voters Obama.

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Red East wrote:
Here's your best option Obama - tell the West and your Arab lackeys to stop arming the insurgents, and force everyone to the table. Because the SNC has no credibility, not even to the Syrians, the field commanders will not lay down their arms even if the SNC agrees to peace. That is why the West has to turn off the faucet. Otherwise, Syria will in civil war for years, even if Assad falls (and I hope he does not). Listen to your voters Obama.
Ur giving out options (pretty stupid one) as if ur some sort of political adviser to him. SNC has no credibility? Wot about the Regime they have credibility? They r not credible either stop being biased. And Stop trying to make it look like the west started it just makes u sound more stupid. US has played its role after the revolution started but they didnt start this revolution. Syria will be in civilian wars for years even after Assad falls? U got divine intervention to back that up or its one of ur "OPTIONS" that u thought up. Hope Assad doesnt looses wow mate after he has consistently massacred people all over Syria wth his jets and artillery u still hang on to a dictator that is committing genocide.
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Hitty wrote:
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Ur giving out options (pretty stupid one) as if ur some sort of political adviser to him. SNC has no credibility? Wot about the Regime they have credibility? They r not credible either stop being biased. And Stop trying to make it look like the west started it just makes u sound more stupid. US has played its role after the revolution started but they didnt start this revolution. Syria will be in civilian wars for years even after Assad falls? U got divine intervention to back that up or its one of ur "OPTIONS" that u thought up. Hope Assad doesnt looses wow mate after he has consistently massacred people all over Syria wth his jets and artillery u still hang on to a dictator that is committing genocide.
Don't call me mate bc I ain't your mate you white trash. You have any better options? Obviously you're the ignorant one. You've digested the Western media. All you do is complain, but you've never posted a rationale thought. Assad may not be a saint, but the insurgents are no better than him. Committing genocide? He's fighting for his country against insurgents backed by the West. If Syria was really in a civil war, Assad would have been gone by now.
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Well me be the little tyke Obama should not have drawn his red line on the international playground. Nothing like our fearless leader blustering and backing down on yet another administration foreign relations fiasco.

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Don't call me mate bc I ain't your mate you white trash. You have any better options? Obviously you're the ignorant one. You've digested the Western media. All you do is complain, but you've never posted a rationale thought. Assad may not be a saint, but the insurgents are no better than him. Committing genocide? He's fighting for his country against insurgents backed by the West. If Syria was really in a civil war, Assad would have been gone by now.
Im not white but nice racist attempt there just shows ur character. Yes I have better options I think the rebels should be given even more support and I mean militarily by other Muslim countries to oust Asshead and his evil minions. Another options is that HezbSatan, Iran and Russia needs to back off so the rebels and the regime fight on fair grounds the only reason Asshead is alive cos of his "Real Friends". You've digested the Syrian and Russian media too much SANA and Rt for u buddy get of it. All I do is spread awareness I have posed several rational points ur just an irrational person. OMG U STILL BELIEVE THERE IS NO CIVIL WAR. Listen nobhead u r very far from syria u have no idea wots going on MORE than half the population has risen against the regime villages have been destroyed by jets and artillery. There r claims of chemical weapons and ur still stuck with DUUUHHHHH NOT CIVIL WAR YET.
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Im not white but nice racist attempt there just shows ur character. Yes I have better options I think the rebels should be given even more support and I mean militarily by other Muslim countries to oust Asshead and his evil minions. Another options is that HezbSatan, Iran and Russia needs to back off so the rebels and the regime fight on fair grounds the only reason Asshead is alive cos of his "Real Friends". You've digested the Syrian and Russian media too much SANA and Rt for u buddy get of it. All I do is spread awareness I have posed several rational points ur just an irrational person. OMG U STILL BELIEVE THERE IS NO CIVIL WAR. Listen nobhead u r very far from syria u have no idea wots going on MORE than half the population has risen against the regime villages have been destroyed by jets and artillery. There r claims of chemical weapons and ur still stuck with DUUUHHHHH NOT CIVIL WAR YET.
Admitting there is civil war ruins there conspiracy theories.

During the officer training course at the Syrian military college, each class of about 1,200 men consisted of around 900 to 1,000 Alawites, about 100 Sunni Muslims, and roughly 100 others representing Syria’s patchwork of sects and ethnic minorities.

The Syrian Alawite dictatorship knew the Sunni would revolt eventually.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/world/middl...

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Admitting there is civil war ruins there conspiracy theories.
During the officer training course at the Syrian military college, each class of about 1,200 men consisted of around 900 to 1,000 Alawites, about 100 Sunni Muslims, and roughly 100 others representing Syria’s patchwork of sects and ethnic minorities.
The Syrian Alawite dictatorship knew the Sunni would revolt eventually.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/world/middl...
Good point. The reason most Alawites are in the military is because when the colonizers left britan was there at one point and so did Russia encouraged the Alawites to go out get skilled in military operations since they were the minority and they were very poor they put all their efforts in to progressing in the Army which they then used to take control of the country and setup a regime. They know that allowing the majority up to a certain level will overthrow them which is why they kept them suppressed and its not just in the Army in other walks of life as well but people dont take notice of that they just want to side with Assad who has suppressed the majority Sunni Muslim for years and when they rise against him they r the terrorists? Assad and his regime has been preparing for this day for years they know that a revolution was going to happen one day cos of the atrocities they commit Assad's father handled a revolt in his time which he destroyed and murdered thousands upon thousands of innocent people with it.Which is exactly why Syria is harder then any other revolution in any Arab country cos a well prepared minority is incharge and backed by powerful nations.

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Assad is only playing by the rulebook his father left him. When Hafez Al Assad and led by Rifaat , his brother, slaughtered 30,000 mostly civilians in Hama because they wanted to be free of the Aliwite domination, the world looked the other way, and Rifaat, with blood still on his hands,was received with open arms and retired in London and bought 30 small hotels there and over 100 apartments in Paris and Marbella to fund his retirement, no doubt with savings from his puny military salary.

The UN didn't pass , or even try to pass, a resolution condemning this massacre, or try to seize his assets.

Today Rifaat gives interviews denying any role in the well documented massacre, that makes Sbernica seem like a picnic bash, and his nephew is right in wondering " what's 20,000 dead among friends, you didn't act up then, why are you so upset now". Russia, with its own history of civilian shelling, doesn't want the precedent of such a condemnation, for what it plans to do again and again to its minorities. Ditto China and its slaughter of 10,000 students in Tianmen Square (which everybody has conveniently forgot and forgiven). And the West does not want to interfere in any country that exports less than 1.5 mil barrels of oil or bombs its towers. Accordingly, this will go on for the next 5 years until the Syrian majority kamikazes its way out of this. Unless the regime commits Hara Kiri , first, which I doubt.
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The Syrian Alawite dictatorship has been preparing for decades.

NATO should stay out of direct military action.
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Lebanon's Daily Star May 02, 2013

Sunni village attacked

"Witnesses from the village say no less than 50 civilians were killed, including women and children," it said.
"Some were summarily executed, shot to death, stabbed or set on fire," the Observatory said, adding that the fate of dozens of villagers remains unknown.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/...

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Avenger wrote:
Lebanon's Daily Star May 02, 2013
Sunni village attacked
"Witnesses from the village say no less than 50 civilians were killed, including women and children," it said.
"Some were summarily executed, shot to death, stabbed or set on fire," the Observatory said, adding that the fate of dozens of villagers remains unknown.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/...
I read that very heartbreaking may Allah give them patience another example of Assad's regime and the murdering scumbags they r.
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Okay...let's say that the West does NOTHING, and Assad manages to win the civil war and completely crush the rebel opposition. Do you really think Syria will be at peace then?

A Shi'a power elite ruling over a Sunni majority state? What caused this brutal war in the first place? Can you promise that even if one war ends, another will not occur for the same reasons several years later?

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Okay...let's say that the West does NOTHING, and Assad manages to win the civil war and completely crush the rebel opposition. Do you really think Syria will be at peace then?
A Shi'a power elite ruling over a Sunni majority state? What caused this brutal war in the first place? Can you promise that even if one war ends, another will not occur for the same reasons several years later?
they were 'at peace' for a long time with that arrangement.

do you think they will be at peace with any religious rule?

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