The situation Of Nigerians in China

[ucboby]

Over the years, Nigerians in China have been suffering untold hardship in the hands of the communist police of China,notwithstanding the deplomatic and trade relations between Nigeria and China.While other smaller african country's citizens are treated fairly one wonders why the citizens from the most populous nation in africa is being treated with levity in China.For example the Chinese authorities has been very considerate in renewin the visas of other african countries with the exception of Nigeria.Other african countries have been getting their resident permit with ease but the case of Nigerians is different.Even when a Nigerian is married to a Chinese Citizens according to the Chinese law the person is still being denied the one year resident permit that the Chinese government give to people in that category rather they will be renewing the person's visa every three months in the case of Nigerian Citizens.One therefore is pushed to ask if the then president Olusegun Obassanjo just signed a bi- lateral relation with Chinese government just to give millions of Chinese citizens free accsess to enter Nigeria so that they help and send our half dead industries to their graves. It is supprising that these Chinese citizens scattered all over Nigeria enjoy their freedom and carry on their businesses without any interference.It is absurd to hear that Nigerians in China do not enjoy any freedom at all and that there are many Nigerians that are being detained by the communist police in an underground cell.It is too bad that while many Nigerians wish to go about their legal businesses that the Chinese communist police are trying their best to frustrate their efforts especially in the commercial city of Guangzhou.The police in the commercial city of Gunagzhou is a carbon copy of Nigerian police in corruption.The difference is that while the Nigerian police collect a pea nut as bribe their Chinese counterpart collect a furtune.Right now in Gunagzhou Nigerians are paying between 10,000 to 13,000 RMB that is 175,000naira to 227,500 naira bribe just to get themselves released as soon they are arrested to avoid being thrown into the underground cell.Even as the Chinese government says that anybody that overstayed should pay a fine of 5000RMB they still cannot not allow Nigerians to pay the fine with ease and go home if they wish to go,rather they will handcuff the person and make him to suffer in the cell and still pay the fine.The wife of a Nigerian who have a resident permit can never claim through her husband's residency, rather if she wish to come to China she will apply and get a one month visiting visa within which she will leave. If not she will be there as illegal allien.Many Nigerian wives are in these category right now.
The most annoying thing is that these Nigerians that are being denied the legal stay in China employ Chinese Citizens in their various offices and shops, where they pay them a huge sum ranging from 2000 to 3000RMB monthly that is 35,000 - 52,500 naira. An amount that most Nigerian graduates are not receiving as minimum wage. I was recently informed that among the multinational companies in Nigeria that Chinese are the least paid workers. It is disheartening that these Chinese will cheat us in their country and rob us of our due at home. In Nigeria Chinese are importers, hawkers, clearing agents even visa vendors. In China, most Nigerians hardly see breathing space to carry out their legitimate businesses. A situation that most Nigerians have been helpless about.
I need a general advice on how to get this problem solved.
Since Nigeria have her own laws, is there any means that we can get Mr Ude the boss of Nigerian immigeration to try and enforce our own laws?
Can we unanimousely in this discussion group write pettition to Mr president about this situation.

[millicent wang]

i advice taht you should investigate more on the real situation of your countrymen in china.I ahve been living near the areain Gz where nigerians crowd.i have also had a anigerian bf. I had lived with him for 3 years. And i assureyou taht I already know how they do their living here.50% of nigerians here are drug dealers.You can even see some of them dealing drugs in some crowded places here in guangzhou offering drugs even in broad daylight. A certain STANLEY DURO, is very well known here as a drug dealer. using filipinas as cuorriers.The bad reputation of nigeriasn which is the raeson why teh police are stricter than them is beacuse of the glaring fact that most of the nigerians here are not doing vusiness nr working but doing illegqal activities to eget easy money.

[Imo-Nigeria]

UCBOBY,
you're really scaring me!
I was thinking of sending a friend to study electronics in China.
Are you saying in essence that he'll be mistreated?
What of this Wang's point of observation?
Are our brothers actually doing the wrong thing over there?
Should i continue doing business with the Chinese?
You can mail me in reply.
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[Imo-Nigeria]

Sorry, the computer i'm using is badly configured.
I actually reside in Nsukka, Nigeria, and i'm Nigerian - FULL TIME!

[Darzkin]

I was always under the impression that Chinese, Indians, and mostly people with lighter skin viewed Africans as inferior. As a Nigerian, who resided in Ivory Coast, it wasn't uncommon to notice the mistreatment of Africans by Chinese, Lebanese, Indians and Arabs. Of course, it will be worst when we go to their country, where there lacks a "rule of law." I think Nigerians should be on guard when going to China or return home.

[xlanrex_bigmouth _e-mc2]

china is sure making a lot o' incursions into africa using cheap products as a catalyst to entrench themselves in african markets! most of these products are fake and sub-standard! i've never liked the chinese anyway. but personally i dont what business anybody has there to immigrate! i mean there r 1.6b pple out there. competition is tight. anywayz gud luck bro just go about yo' lawful duties

[IgboBrit-Girl]

Here in the UK, The chinese are the main people selling counterfiet goods. I wonder if it was black people that was into the trade the police would have gotten tough....They do the selling so openly.

[HoneyChild]

If the Nigerians are selling the drugs,who's buying the drugs?Befor the Nigerians were selling the drugs,who were selling the drugs?Where are the drugs coming from,how are the Nigerians getting them into the country?Chinese dont do business fairly with the Nigerians even where i am in Minnesota.A Nigerian friend of mine was just saying on Thursday, Nigerians should do like the Blacks from times past and start a boy cot of there items Nigerians frequently buy and see how they will come back correct to us.Africans are buying the foods from Asians,and cars like no bodies business!And for that, Nigerians are Not appreciated by the Chinese at all.Nigerian Brothers and Sisters...start now and realize the power you have!Dont let any one roll over you while they are counting your hard earned money.Just think.Think about not spending money with those who do you all so terribly bad!Peace

[HoneyChild]

Is it true that alot of Chinese are living in Nigeria? I just heard that and wanted to know if that is correct info. thanks

[sandra]

Chinese are mean. am in china, their discrimination is obvious and our embassy is so fucked. i'm in china cos i gat no choice, i wish this earthquake will clear them from the face of this earth

[OnlyOne]

STOP WHINING AND DO SOMETHING. If you are being mistreated, find a way to film it and post it where everyone can see. The at least your story will be believable.

[animashaun olanrewaju]

i gained an admission in a university in china,jiangnan university to be precise.on getting to the school i was 2 month behind my first semester because i got my visa so late,before leaving i called the school authority to inform then that i wont pay the full semester cos am behind,and they accepted,but i am so suprise when i paid the agreed amount,they gave me a letter to the police to give me my permit,but on gettin there i was giving a visa that valid till july,and i would not know cos everything is in chinese,so i got back to the school,and ask why but i was told not until they are sure of me paying for the next semester,before they can issue me a student permit.so i hope of getting on with my studies,but the way they treat nigerian so bad,other small african country like sudan,benin,and others are go about do bizness,but they will not check on them.so i was on my way from pudong airport to welcome my sister who also gained admision to my school,we took a taxi but to my suprise we were robbed,they took my sister passport and 4000usd,so we went to the nearest police post to make a report but on knowing we are nigerians,the said if we cant speak chinese no case,i pleaded with the little chinese i know but to avail.we left for school,on getting there to explain to the school authorities,they show no sign of concern when i told them about my stolen money what they said is :THAT IS YOUR OWN PROBLEM ALL WE WANT IS PAY YOUR MONEY TO US"i now discover that they only want your money nothing much.i try to get in touch with niegria consulate here in china,no respond to the number placed on there site,the ambassador is useless:NOT SORRY TO SAY"now i am stranded here with my sister and my air ticket will only be available by 10 of this month.i made a vow on getting back home any chinese i see any where is in trouble,i swear with my life.many nigerians that are stupid and self centered will tell you that it only those that cant work legally that complain,cos there are getting there on way by a crooked way,sayin stop whatever and find something doing,they are mad,pls my brothers jus forget about coming here it is here,for you to be sure i paste my number whoever wants to callme [phone].i am lanre.

[Big _Bridge]

You are a chinese and u might try to defend the darkside of your country., yes u did the right thing! but the truth is that you are completely wrong by saying that 50% of Nigerians are drug dealers.. you are wrong indeed and may GOD forgive you for such comment! I dont support that anyone should do illegal businesses in any country but we should be honest in anything that might come out of out mouths. I had lived in china for 3years and i lived with chinese people, had so many experiences about their lifestyles both good and bad and the only simple truth is that. Chinese people are always self centered when it comes to an issue of chinese and foreigners! This is the natural truth and only GOD knows how to judge a situation like this... bcos chinese problems is spiritual!

[wang zi]

First things first,I genuinely appreciate the writers insight on the whole issue of Chinese-Nigerian prejudice, It's a circumstancial and extremely complicated matter.

First in the sense that,you don't get to actually know Chinese so well,you'll mostly find yourself swimming in that pool of racial prejudice.

I Live in China,I had my struggle and I'm still standing,but my only question goes to "Millicent wang", stated that she's dated a Nigerian for 3 years,and was so confident of saying "50% of nigerians in china are dope dealers".

That sounds absurd,but dating a guy and back-screwing some of his road dog buddies(Some skirts I know do that) doesnt give you the right to sweep conclusions of "50% of nigerians in china are dope dealers".

As for what Chinese thinks of Nigerians,I think we should deal with the Media,It's just plain reputation. It's like a famous brand,not knowing a citizen's atrocity doesnt make the whole country an ethnic group of miscreants.

And for how Chinese treats Nigerians,well I'd say possiblities works with impossibilities so does positivity and negativity,Some Chinese might be prejudiced,some are just so open minded,friendly and wouldnt really care If you're from the gutter of Africa.

Sometimes It's just how you dish yourself out to them,and as we already know,what you give is what you get,It's that simple.

[success]

excuse me
what was that chinese girl talking about?

now lend me your ears please let me inject some truth inside your brain, in the year

2005 a chinese girl told me that she want me and if i refuse her, she will tell police that my visa has expaired.

and she want me to marry her by force

chinese are selfish and mean

but GOD has been always good to us his chidren

chinese went to some local churches here and arrested our brothers because they were preaching to the chinese people about GOD

u said 50per of nigerians are deallers on drugs?

i think u said this maybe because he refuse to marry u

im here in guangzhou living with the pains that chinese gave me

and i pray all day that God will see us through someday

as for me

CHINESE ARE FAKE FRIENDS

i am and will always be a proud AFRICAN!!!!!

[uma]

I'am feeling very sad looking at u ppl stories.
I'am an indian living in malaysia.i know the pain and struggle nigerians going through in this country.discrimination against them very bad.and my advice to all Nigerians is do not come to Malaysia with hope of working and studying here.u can pursue
better education in any other countries like UK,USA,canada and aus....don't get trapped by sweet words from the agents and watching our friendly adv "Malaysia truly Asia"......it's not my friends "Malaysia truly fake".....i tell u the truth u ppl are not well treated here....racist country....even me as malaysian citizen struggling to survive ....if i get chance i'am glad to leave this country...i know how painful it is being stranded in unknown country...i have nigerian bf...we are planning to get married soon...as per immigration rule i wont able to register marriage with him here.i need to go to his country to register my marriage.
i'am so confused here....i dont't know what to do...we are so much in love but against by my parents....i have bachelor degree in IT....i dont't know where to go to survive.please someone give me a good solution..........

[grover odoh]

I'm an educated NZ'er who lived in Guangzhou for three years as a government consultant. I lived met and lived with a Nigerian who was experiencing visa difficulties. Under my knowledge and observations there are 2 pretty evenly matched perspectives and sets of facts.
Its is true that the Chinese discriminate against Africans - and the Nigerian community in GZ is certainly visible and extensive. There is bribery and abuse for sure - but then on the other side why are so many Nigerians overstaying their visa when it is common knowledge these days that they are not eligible for extensions. It is a sad situation, particularly when I witnessed so many young businessmen chasing the rainbow trying to make their fortunes yet not making it back home to their young families year after year - stranded. In response to 50% of Nigerians are drug dealers - perhaps that is too much but there is a huge percentage that are engaged in illegal activities. This perhaps is because they have been forced into doing something in desperation as a means of survival in a country that has been unsympathetic to their visa requirements and in many cases bribed them to a point where they can no longer break even in their day to day operations in China. I'm not convinced either side has a clean record as I think both cultures have a deep propensity to corrupt behaviours - that it becomes normal ingrained behaviour to jump through loopholes and sidestep the law. Neither Chinese or Nigerian people have experienced living in a democracy or under civil law - this situation is reflective of 2 corrupt cultures and the follow on affect in individuals.

[Sister A]

HoneyChild wrote:

If the Nigerians are selling the drugs,who's buying the drugs?Befor the Nigerians were selling the drugs,who were selling the drugs?Where are the drugs coming from,how are the Nigerians getting them into the country?Chinese dont do business fairly with the Nigerians even where i am in Minnesota.A Nigerian friend of mine was just saying on Thursday, Nigerians should do like the Blacks from times past and start a boy cot of there items Nigerians frequently buy and see how they will come back correct to us.Africans are buying the foods from Asians,and cars like no bodies business!And for that, Nigerians are Not appreciated by the Chinese at all.Nigerian Brothers and Sisters...start now and realize the power you have!Dont let any one roll over you while they are counting your hard earned money.Just think.Think about not spending money with those who do you all so terribly bad!Peace

LMAO. No 1 defense about the drug dealing matter.... if the Nigerians are selling them, who is buying them.... most importantly is that we don't take responsibility for what we are doing... blame all the bad others...
good one

[Sister A]

Whether you are black or white, brown or whatever... drug dealing is bad and remains bad. No matter how much you defend it. The worst is when you do sell it to gain a personal benefit in terms of living a luxury life... shame shame shame

[sunny]

i will say that if you dont have things to say yu keep your mouth short, cos your people are the one that send nigerian into the work ,go out to the world you people are the one doing the dirty work, i no you must be one of the immigration offiecer or a polce man you are talking as if you dont no what your people are doing any body doing drug are the chiniese people becoas the country have no work for the casual worker they us the africans there,so man learn to talk in public .in america can you say is african doing this things in china town in te state keep you self out of the talk