Solutions to Child Poverty in New Zea...

Solutions to Child Poverty in New Zealand- Evidence for action

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“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#1 Jan 24, 2013
"Child poverty involves material deprivation and hardship. It means, for instance, a much higher chance of having insufficient nutritious food, going to school hungry, wearing worn-out shoes or going barefoot, having inadequate clothing, living in a cold, damp house and sleeping in a shared bed. It often means missing out on activities that most New Zealanders take
for granted, like playing sport and having a birthday party. It can also mean much narrower horizons – such as rarely travelling far from home. For instance, many children in low-income families in the Hutt Valley and in Porirua have never been the short distance to Wellington city."

i have worked with kids 12 years old, born and bred in aranui, lived their all their life, but never been to brighton. it's a sad state of affairs for many children in nz......

poverty and crime go hand in hand, young peole need as much support as they can get from the govt in schools. free food, fruit, clothes and books is a good start.

http://www.occ.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/...
Tweeter

Auckland, New Zealand

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
"Child poverty involves material deprivation and hardship. It means, for instance, a much higher chance of having insufficient nutritious food, going to school hungry, wearing worn-out shoes or going barefoot, having inadequate clothing, living in a cold, damp house and sleeping in a shared bed. It often means missing out on activities that most New Zealanders take
for granted, like playing sport and having a birthday party. It can also mean much narrower horizons – such as rarely travelling far from home. For instance, many children in low-income families in the Hutt Valley and in Porirua have never been the short distance to Wellington city."
i have worked with kids 12 years old, born and bred in aranui, lived their all their life, but never been to brighton. it's a sad state of affairs for many children in nz......
poverty and crime go hand in hand, young peole need as much support as they can get from the govt in schools. free food, fruit, clothes and books is a good start.
http://www.occ.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/...
How about some support for the parents A TAFE of UNITEC course that could get them into a great job and be able to support their kids.
Part Maoris STINK

Auckland, New Zealand

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
i have worked with kids 12 years old, born and bred in aranui, lived their all their life, but never been to brighton. it's a sad state of affairs for many children in nz......
Unfortunately for many part Maori children in NZ, this has become the norm, utu's molesting the young, naive minded children, taking their innocence setting them up for a life of failure, most of which already were born into.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Tweeter wrote:
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How about some support for the parents A TAFE of UNITEC course that could get them into a great job and be able to support their kids.
yes exactly.....

9 times out of ten the parents were themselves raised in poverty type conditions, they left school early etc....they need to go somewhere to learn good parenting skills.... the govt can do more to force people with kids onto childcare courses...... some course where they get told it's not a good idea to put your kid in a dryer, or how to cook home made food and clean the house.....

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#5 Jan 25, 2013
Part Maoris STINK wrote:
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young, naive minded children, taking their innocence setting them up for a life of failure, most of which already were born into.
the first part of your post was crap, but this last bit is spot on.....
Anonymous

Ashfield, Australia

#6 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
"Child poverty involves material deprivation and hardship. It means, for instance, a much higher chance of having insufficient nutritious food, going to school hungry, wearing worn-out shoes or going barefoot, having inadequate clothing, living in a cold, damp house and sleeping in a shared bed. It often means missing out on activities that most New Zealanders take
for granted, like playing sport and having a birthday party. It can also mean much narrower horizons – such as rarely travelling far from home. For instance, many children in low-income families in the Hutt Valley and in Porirua have never been the short distance to Wellington city."
i have worked with kids 12 years old, born and bred in aranui, lived their all their life, but never been to brighton. it's a sad state of affairs for many children in nz......
poverty and crime go hand in hand, young peole need as much support as they can get from the govt in schools. free food, fruit, clothes and books is a good start.
http://www.occ.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/...
You don't even know what poverty is you pampered, small-minded super-ignorant little Maori.

Try spending some time outside of NZ (if you don't have criminal convictions) and you'll start seeing just how lucky you whinging negative Maoris are.

Of course the concept of hard work and sacrifice is something I've never met a Maori who'd recognised.
Anonymous

Ashfield, Australia

#7 Jan 25, 2013
Tweeter wrote:
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How about some support for the parents A TAFE of UNITEC course that could get them into a great job and be able to support their kids.
Oh and who's going to pay for that?

I know NZ has a student loan scheme, but the reality is that these useless idiots will just fail the courses and then never pay-off the loan.

They've hard it soft for far too long and they need some tough-love. Some government work schemes that will teach them the value of hard work and thrift. No more satellite TV subscriptions nor parties nor beer for some time hori. And get some homemaking skills!

Since: Nov 08

Auckland

#8 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
poverty and crime go hand in hand, young peole need as much support as they can get from the govt in schools. free food, fruit, clothes and books is a good start.
http://www.occ.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/...
Sorry Adam, I have to disagree somewhat with your post.

If ALL kids were to be supplied with the things of which you speak, then fair enough. But let's be honest here...most of the "child poverty' discussions are aimed fairly and squarely at Maori. So what you're recommending is that Maori kids get this stuff free and others have to pay (effectively paying twice).

So...the adult Maori is yet again let off the hook, and can continue to live their life, spitting out babies and relatively free of responsibility, knowing that everyone else will pay whatever costs they incur. And the kids who get everything supplied free...they'll no doubt squander the education provided (because the parents don't impress on them the value of education), grow up seeing what an easy life the parents have (not having to work, state providing for their needs), and end up following the same path as the parents. Albeit with an even greater sense of entitlement.

Doesn't sound like a good scheme at all. What's needed is harsher consequences for one's own poor life choices. When you truly experience the direct consequences of your actions, only then do you make a conscious decision to change.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#9 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
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Sorry Adam, I have to disagree somewhat with your post.
If ALL kids were to be supplied with the things of which you speak, then fair enough..
yep, free food is delivered to all schools. many companies donate their goods to all children in all schools. most schools have weet bix and fruit pots, snack bars. a lot of schools get fresh fruit, and milk. kids can donate new shoes and jackets to every school, schools get tooth paste and tooth brushes for every single child........ this goes to every school.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#10 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
<quoted text>But let's be honest here...most of the "child poverty' discussions are aimed fairly and squarely at Maori. So what you're recommending is that Maori kids get this stuff free and others have to pay (effectively paying twice)..
most of the poverty discussions are aimed at the poor people of new zealand. and as weve been told here over and over by TH and the like, maoris are the poorest stinkiest smelliest most criminal druggie lazy incarcerated sub human scum in the universe.......

"So what you're recommending is that Maori kids get this stuff free and others have to pay (effectively paying twice)."

like i said, all kids in nz schools get this....even if they have their own tooth brush at home, they will be given a new one for use at school....

Since: Nov 08

Auckland

#11 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
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yep, free food is delivered to all schools. many companies donate their goods to all children in all schools. most schools have weet bix and fruit pots, snack bars. a lot of schools get fresh fruit, and milk. kids can donate new shoes and jackets to every school, schools get tooth paste and tooth brushes for every single child........ this goes to every school.
I'll have to check when my daughter starts back at school, but I don't recall ever seeing any of that going on at her school...other than a few miscellaneous supplies provided by some of the parents (I sometimes drop off waste paper from work for use in art class and the like).

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#12 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
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And the kids who get everything supplied free...they'll no doubt squander the education provided ......
Doesn't sound like a good scheme at all. What's needed is harsher consequences for one's own poor life choices.
harsher consequences for a child who has no food? and what would that be? starvation?

there is NO way i or any other teacher would EVER let a child go without food if they have none of their own.

hundreds of companies donate free food for the kids....

this country was built on free milk in schools......do you forget the free milk in every school? it is a famous part of nz history...its been back for many years now........
Anonymous

Ashfield, Australia

#13 Jan 25, 2013
Maybe NZ could organise school lunches like in most other developed nations.

But that's about as far as it should go. The rest Maoris should finally become responsible for themselves.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#15 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
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Doesn't sound like a good scheme at all. What's needed is harsher consequences for one's own poor life choices.
free milk in schools ran for 30 years.... ended in '67....

http://www.waihicentral.school.nz/wp-content/...

free milk in schools is back nationwide....

https://www.fonterramilkforschools.com

Since: Nov 08

Auckland

#16 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
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harsher consequences for a child who has no food? and what would that be? starvation?
there is NO way i or any other teacher would EVER let a child go without food if they have none of their own.
Harsher consequences for the parents is what I'm talking about. If we all jump in and take responsibility for their kids, then what's to stop them having more kids that they can't afford? In fact, given that the government pays more welfare for more kids, then it's almost like we're rewarding them.

“Educating Utus”

Since: Aug 10

Wanganui, New Zealand

#17 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
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maoris are the poorest stinkiest smelliest most criminal druggie lazy incarcerated sub human scum in the universe.......
At last you're starting to get the picture.

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#18 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
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I'll have to check when my daughter starts back at school, but I don't recall ever seeing any of that going on at her school..
it is available for every school in new zealand and is distributed according to demand.... if your daughter is at a decile 10 school there will be less demand as most of the children come to school having had breakfast, with their own lunches. if your daughter is at a decile 1 school they will most certainly have supply of free food and clothes for the students.

Since: Nov 08

Auckland

#19 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
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free milk in schools is back nationwide....
https://www.fonterramilkforschools.com
Perhaps it's all good on this front now, but it's possibly only temporary. What happens, I wonder, when Fonterra's profits start looking a bit too shabby for the shareholders' liking?

“Moumou Tangata ki te Po”

Since: Oct 11

Earth

#20 Jan 25, 2013
Gutsfull wrote:
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Harsher consequences for the parents is what I'm talking about. If we all jump in and take responsibility for their kids, then what's to stop them having more kids that they can't afford? In fact, given that the government pays more welfare for more kids, then it's almost like we're rewarding them.
someone has to take responsibility for the kids. they come first..... they have to have their basic needs met. that's the number one priority.

the parents need re educating... just like tweeter said.....
Anonymous

Ashfield, Australia

#21 Jan 25, 2013
Adam Rangiaho wrote:
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free milk in schools ran for 30 years.... ended in '67....
http://www.waihicentral.school.nz/wp-content/...
free milk in schools is back nationwide....
https://www.fonterramilkforschools.com
Wakey wakey Adam. In case nobody told you; New Zealand was a much wealthier nation in the 1950's and 1960's than it is now? hmm?

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