Are whites racist to Maori people

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Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#1 Jan 29, 2011
Be honet now ive read so many racist comments on here it's not even funny!

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#2 Jan 29, 2011
Define what you mean by racist. The meaning is subjective and you will find definitions vary depending on who you ask.
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#3 Jan 29, 2011
Like for instants, the forum that says should Maori be allowed to breed. What's that! Isn't that some form of racist remarks. An they have a poll on it.

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#4 Jan 29, 2011
That is a specific thread, the content of which is not up for debate here.

I am asking you. What is your definition of racism?
What parameters shall we set?

If you wish to throw around an accusation with very heavy connotations you damned well better be able to define it.
Bonnie_And_Clyde

Wellington, New Zealand

#5 Jan 30, 2011
I dont think so lol .
I can't say the entire white population . Every single european is racist ???!.

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#6 Jan 30, 2011
<<<PC_is _Marxism -
Define what you mean by racist. The meaning is subjective and you will find definitions vary depending on who you ask. >>>

The meaning is not subjective at all. This statement is racist. "Depending on who you ask", in other words if you asked a black american as apposed to a red neck that defines the meaning of racism? Wot eva

<<<What parameters shall we set?

If you wish to throw around an accusation with very heavy connotations you damned well better be able to define it. >>>

Here's a parameter for you; most colonised countries are racist, they have to be. If they weren't colonised they wouldn't be racist.! And forget arguing that this is incorrect, most countries that have been colonised, be it thru treaty's and trickery or war, DO NOT WANT to be colonised by another people, they want their resources, their traditions, their language, their land to stay in their ownership not some alien intruder who invades like a plague then tries to extinguish the indigenous culture in order to take control of the resources.

“LEX TALIONIS”

Since: Jul 09

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#7 Jan 30, 2011
ngawaka19 wrote:
<<<PC_is _Marxism -
Define what you mean by racist. The meaning is subjective and you will find definitions vary depending on who you ask. >>>
The meaning is not subjective at all. This statement is racist. "Depending on who you ask", in other words if you asked a black american as apposed to a red neck that defines the meaning of racism? Wot eva
<<<What parameters shall we set?
If you wish to throw around an accusation with very heavy connotations you damned well better be able to define it. >>>
Here's a parameter for you; most colonised countries are racist, they have to be. If they weren't colonised they wouldn't be racist.! And forget arguing that this is incorrect, most countries that have been colonised, be it thru treaty's and trickery or war, DO NOT WANT to be colonised by another people, they want their resources, their traditions, their language, their land to stay in their ownership not some alien intruder who invades like a plague then tries to extinguish the indigenous culture in order to take control of the resources.
Step right up, every player a prize.

You use a racial (note racial,not racist term) in redneck to describe Americans of European ancestry. Why should negroes view racism differently than White people? if we are to subscribe to egalitarian thinking, then we should all perceive things exactly the same.

New Zealand is not really a colonised country. In order for it to be colonised a nation would have to have existed before outside intervention occurred, it did not. New Zealand was an untamed wilderness populated by stone age savages who had no concept of nationhood. You can whine all you like. It does not change the facts. If not for European settlement this land would be another Samoa or Tonga. A third world hell hole.

While you people sit on your high horses with your hands out, would you like to answer me a question? what have maori ever achieved as a people? heck, what has any individual maori contributed to society of great significance?
Maryjane

Hastings, New Zealand

#8 Jan 30, 2011
PC_Is_Marxism wrote:
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Step right up, every player a prize.
You use a racial (note racial,not racist term) in redneck to describe Americans of European ancestry. Why should negroes view racism differently than White people? if we are to subscribe to egalitarian thinking, then we should all perceive things exactly the same.
New Zealand is not really a colonised country. In order for it to be colonised a nation would have to have existed before outside intervention occurred, it did not. New Zealand was an untamed wilderness populated by stone age savages who had no concept of nationhood. You can whine all you like. It does not change the facts. If not for European settlement this land would be another Samoa or Tonga. A third world hell hole.
While you people sit on your high horses with your hands out, would you like to answer me a question? what have maori ever achieved as a people? heck, what has any individual maori contributed to society of great significance?
By excepting you lot to share our beautiful green country. Don't you think that's a damm lot?
62 Pan Glide

Christchurch, New Zealand

#9 Jan 30, 2011
Maryjane wrote:
<quoted text>By excepting you lot to share our beautiful green country. Don't you think that's a damm lot?
maryjane/who ever,

You are not having a good day are you?

excepting - should be expecting (or accepting depending on what you were trying to say).

damm - should be damn.

Illiterate much?
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#10 Jan 30, 2011
62 Pan Glide wrote:
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maryjane/who ever,
You are not having a good day are you?
excepting - should be expecting (or accepting depending on what you were trying to say).
damm - should be damn.
Illiterate much?
You white folk must be the only people that give a F..K about spelling errors is that all you got! Try harder next time!
axdout

Christchurch, New Zealand

#11 Jan 30, 2011
If we had waited 25 years to inhabit NZ the natives would have wiped themselves out, then our taxes could go to cheap fuel instead of paying the natives to sit at home and put their kids in the dryer or swing it around on the washing line or do wrestling moves on. Guess what my answer to the "should they breed question is"?
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#12 Jan 30, 2011
axdout wrote:
If we had waited 25 years to inhabit NZ the natives would have wiped themselves out, then our taxes could go to cheap fuel instead of paying the natives to sit at home and put their kids in the dryer or swing it around on the washing line or do wrestling moves on. Guess what my answer to the "should they breed question is"?
So who's the stupid greedy idiots that couldn't wait. Ha You need a one way ticket out of here!
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#13 Jan 30, 2011
Who Ever wrote:
<quoted text>So who's the stupid greedy idiots that couldn't wait. Ha You need a one way ticket out of here!
Who brought those killing machines here us maori didn't have Dryers! Oh yeah the Clever Dickey's did that's right.

Since: Jan 11

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#14 Jan 30, 2011
Who Ever wrote:
<quoted text>So who's the stupid greedy idiots that couldn't wait. Ha You need a one way ticket out of here!
Sure do! a country that cares about contributing citizens not doll bludging parasites.
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#15 Jan 30, 2011
axdout wrote:
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Sure do! a country that cares about contributing citizens not doll bludging parasites.
Well nothing's going to change so you better keep getting use to it. If you want to continue living in this Country. So Sad

Since: Jan 11

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#16 Jan 30, 2011
Who Ever wrote:
<quoted text>Well nothing's going to change so you better keep getting use to it. If you want to continue living in this Country. So Sad
Maybe genocide and tougher immigration laws should be implemented then, The $325 per week that I donate to winz would easily cover the payments on a new boat for myself!
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#17 Jan 30, 2011
axdout wrote:
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Maybe genocide and tougher immigration laws should be implemented then, The $325 per week that I donate to winz would easily cover the payments on a new boat for myself!
Just like my $325.00 per week but do you hear me bleeting on about it! Or do all you folk think you are the only one's here that work!

Since: Jan 11

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#18 Jan 30, 2011
Who Ever wrote:
<quoted text>Just like my $325.00 per week but do you hear me bleeting on about it! Or do all you folk think you are the only one's here that work!
No but maybe if you and all your other buddys that work did bleet on about it, the powers that be would do something about it and then we could all have new boats?
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#19 Jan 30, 2011
Been a boring long weekend so i thought id leave my thoughts. I actually have truck loads of white friends who are not racist to my face but maybe behind my back, but who cares i still love them all. Keep giving negative comments cause it makes us Maori much stronger. Any way off to work tomorrow!
Who Ever

Hastings, New Zealand

#20 Jan 30, 2011
axdout wrote:
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No but maybe if you and all your other buddys that work did bleet on about it, the powers that be would do something about it and then we could all have new boats?
I love the boat part but for the rest i wish im just one out of truck loads that wants!

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