Why is it easy for pacific islanders/...

Why is it easy for pacific islanders/asians to live in NZ but not USA/euros ??

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Bilbo

North Shore, New Zealand

#1 Oct 12, 2008
Why is it that pacific islanders and asians can bring their entire extended family to NZ and many can't even speak english properly (i thought we had a strict points based system) but then on the other side english, germans, swiss and americans sometimes get denied citizenship even though they are fluent english and highly qualified, can someone please explain how this double standard legally works ???
jube

Fremont, CA

#2 Oct 13, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
Why is it that pacific islanders and asians can bring their entire extended family to NZ and many can't even speak english properly (i thought we had a strict points based system) but then on the other side english, germans, swiss and americans sometimes get denied citizenship even though they are fluent english and highly qualified, can someone please explain how this double standard legally works ???
stage a coup my friend and get rid of Helen and all problem will be solved.
leecher

United States

#3 Oct 13, 2008
Maybe because New Zealanders like Islanders so much?=)
straight shooter

Porirua, New Zealand

#4 Oct 13, 2008
Besides the points system(skilled migrant category) you mentioned there are several other Enry options into NZ.
There's the samoan quota, pacific access category and family category which will explain why there are so many islanders here. You'll find most asian are here under Business and investment category.

You'll find answer to your quetion on the Nz immigration website.
Bilbo

North Shore, New Zealand

#5 Oct 13, 2008
straight shooter wrote:
Besides the points system(skilled migrant category) you mentioned there are several other Enry options into NZ.
There's the samoan quota, pacific access category and family category which will explain why there are so many islanders here. You'll find most asian are here under Business and investment category.
You'll find answer to your quetion on the Nz immigration website.
Pacific access category, what the hell is that ??? sounds terrible
JaSan

Kanzaki, Japan

#6 Oct 13, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
<quoted text> Pacific access category, what the hell is that ??? sounds terrible
bilbo ki`o knows the answers to the questions bilbo asks. bilbo is another PacificIslanderAsian hater with hidden agendas behind the question.
straight shooter

Auckland, New Zealand

#7 Oct 14, 2008
Bilbo I don't see where there is a double standard?.
A kiwi entering Europe or the US has to go through the same process there, so why the hell do you expect any different coming here?
As for the islanders theres a special relationship with NZ as you'll find that some pacific nations were once NZ territories before gaining independence.
Besides without them you would'nt have the All BLACKS!

Since: Sep 08

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#8 Oct 14, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
Why is it that pacific islanders and asians can bring their entire extended family to NZ and many can't even speak english properly (i thought we had a strict points based system) but then on the other side english, germans, swiss and americans sometimes get denied citizenship even though they are fluent english and highly qualified, can someone please explain how this double standard legally works ???
Ask Akiwi as Im sure he will have some hairbrained answer with and underling racist feel to the answer.
As mentioned by other replies, check the nzis web site, its actually quite good, if you cant find the answer there then go to the FAQ sections and ask them a question yourself. Only 1 catch though, you must supply them with your personal details.
Bilbo

North Shore, New Zealand

#9 Oct 15, 2008
straight shooter wrote:
Bilbo I don't see where there is a double standard?.
A kiwi entering Europe or the US has to go through the same process there, so why the hell do you expect any different coming here?
As for the islanders theres a special relationship with NZ as you'll find that some pacific nations were once NZ territories before gaining independence.
Besides without them you would'nt have the All BLACKS!
I dont give a shit if we dont have the all blacks as good because of the lack of islander, bottom line is every day i see useless islanders in youth gangs causing shit, whos parents should have never been let here. living here is a privledge not an entitlement. there own countries are shit so they want to exploit our first world nation and bring it down with them , Any race is welcome if they have the right qualifications that NZ needs, but there should be a birth license so poor people dont rapidly mutliply (all races) so we dont have to all subsidise to people that are too stupid to funtion in society. Our extreme political correctness will be the end of NZ, Look at the UK rampant multiculturalism has DESTROYED england, i know ive lived there, thats why so many english are leaving. denmark has very stirct immigration and its the happiest nation on earth
Bilbo

North Shore, New Zealand

#10 Oct 16, 2008
JaSan wrote:
<quoted text>bilbo ki`o knows the answers to the questions bilbo asks. bilbo is another PacificIslanderAsian hater with hidden agendas behind the question.
hidden agenda ? um im not really into those kind of conspirocy theories, truth is we have the most relaxed immigration laws in the world and its not helping our country. We lose skilled citzens and recent immigrants that are highly skilled to australia (many highly skilled asians islanders that come here leave to aussie as soon as they get citizenship) and we are left with the f**ktards with an IQ of 60 who have 10 retarded children each, then to make things worse replace the skilled citzens migrants with more idiots, looking for 'growth' in numbers rather than productivity gains, Norway operates on a very strict immigration basis which is why it does not want to be part of the EU and it has very high productivity, if im not mistaken the worlds highest
Cibil

New Zealand

#11 Oct 16, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
<quoted text> hidden agenda ? um im not really into those kind of conspirocy theories, truth is we have the most relaxed immigration laws in the world and its not helping our country. We lose skilled citzens and recent immigrants that are highly skilled to australia (many highly skilled asians islanders that come here leave to aussie as soon as they get citizenship) and we are left with the f**ktards with an IQ of 60 who have 10 retarded children each, then to make things worse replace the skilled citzens migrants with more idiots, looking for 'growth' in numbers rather than productivity gains, Norway operates on a very strict immigration basis which is why it does not want to be part of the EU and it has very high productivity, if im not mistaken the worlds highest
You ain't no real Kiwi,I can tell,So cut the crap and go back to there you come from,trying to tell us locals how our lifes should be in N.Z,yeah right! So what about Norway,Eu and England.
N.Z will always be better and you know it,I mean You are here now, right! must be good?
Straight shooter

Auckland, New Zealand

#12 Oct 16, 2008
Bilbo, there's no need to spit the dummy mate. I suggest you get off your fat arse and do something about it or live with it. By the sounds of things you could be New Zealands next Pauline Hanson!

Since: Aug 08

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#13 Oct 18, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
<quoted text> I dont give a shit if we dont have the all blacks as good because of the lack of islander, bottom line is every day i see useless islanders in youth gangs causing shit, whos parents should have never been let here. living here is a privledge not an entitlement. there own countries are shit so they want to exploit our first world nation and bring it down with them , Any race is welcome if they have the right qualifications that NZ needs, but there should be a birth license so poor people dont rapidly mutliply (all races) so we dont have to all subsidise to people that are too stupid to funtion in society. Our extreme political correctness will be the end of NZ, Look at the UK rampant multiculturalism has DESTROYED england, i know ive lived there, thats why so many english are leaving. denmark has very stirct immigration and its the happiest nation on earth
ok..firstly...you sound like a proud kiwi...and what kind of proud kiwi would want an All Blacks squad weaker??....LOL......jks

alright, now to be serious....i do agree with you on a couple aspects....
there should be a rule for islanders...if you ever get involved in crime, gangs etc..thats it mate....back you go to the islands......none of this PC crap

and in terms of your birth liscence...you sound like Michael Laws on radiolive lol ; )
Bilbo

North Shore, New Zealand

#14 Oct 20, 2008
Straight shooter wrote:
Bilbo, there's no need to spit the dummy mate. I suggest you get off your fat arse and do something about it or live with it. By the sounds of things you could be New Zealands next Pauline Hanson!
I woulnt say i sound like pauline hanson but i dont really know too much about her opinions in detail. what I thinks is that its common sense really to have stricter immgration, If we have the loosest immigration laws on the entire planet, that has to give an indication that we have swinged too far in the wrong direction, also A birth licence is a good idea, im all for it, if I dont have enough money i shouldnt be allowed to have more than one kid, Adoptive parents have very strict criteria to adopt, but any low life abusive criminal can have as many children as they want, yeah its controversial but NZ's in for tough times if we dont change and we need as much stability as possible, the world has always been inherently unstable and just because we've had relative stability since after world war II doesnt mean things will remain like this, most younger people in their twenties, teens in my experience think like this, maybe you people who disagree are older with different perceptions of the way NZ is going ?? I dont know ??

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#15 Oct 20, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
<quoted text> I dont give a shit if we dont have the all blacks as good because of the lack of islander, bottom line is every day i see useless islanders in youth gangs causing shit, whos parents should have never been let here. living here is a privledge not an entitlement. there own countries are shit so they want to exploit our first world nation and bring it down with them , Any race is welcome if they have the right qualifications that NZ needs, but there should be a birth license so poor people dont rapidly mutliply (all races) so we dont have to all subsidise to people that are too stupid to funtion in society. Our extreme political correctness will be the end of NZ, Look at the UK rampant multiculturalism has DESTROYED england, i know ive lived there, thats why so many english are leaving. denmark has very stirct immigration and its the happiest nation on earth
NEWS FLASH - NEW ZEALAND is NOT a first world country
Straight Shooter

Auckland, New Zealand

#16 Oct 20, 2008
Bilbo wrote:
<quoted text> I woulnt say i sound like pauline hanson but i dont really know too much about her opinions in detail. what I thinks is that its common sense really to have stricter immgration, If we have the loosest immigration laws on the entire planet, that has to give an indication that we have swinged too far in the wrong direction, also A birth licence is a good idea, im all for it, if I dont have enough money i shouldnt be allowed to have more than one kid, Adoptive parents have very strict criteria to adopt, but any low life abusive criminal can have as many children as they want, yeah its controversial but NZ's in for tough times if we dont change and we need as much stability as possible, the world has always been inherently unstable and just because we've had relative stability since after world war II doesnt mean things will remain like this, most younger people in their twenties, teens in my experience think like this, maybe you people who disagree are older with different perceptions of the way NZ is going ?? I dont know ??
Bilbo to old an wise first one must be young and stupid
Straight Shooter

Auckland, New Zealand

#17 Oct 20, 2008
thats to be old and wise first one must be young and stupid
Akiwi

Auckland, New Zealand

#19 Oct 30, 2008
Easy! They don't come from this part of the world,But islanders,N.Zers,kiwis,Samoan, Tongans,Pakeha,Maori and Aussies do Ok ! its only right that the locals get first pick before any Euro or Asian country's!
They just don't respect our country full stop!
Bring their racist hate culture to our shore's,Looking at most of these country they come from are suffering from pollution and over populated with a number of Human health rights problems truth be known.
God knows their to many already!
Stephen

North Shore, New Zealand

#20 Nov 1, 2008
Akiwi wrote:
Easy! They don't come from this part of the world,But islanders,N.Zers,kiwis,Samoan, Tongans,Pakeha,Maori and Aussies do Ok ! its only right that the locals get first pick before any Euro or Asian country's!
They just don't respect our country full stop!
Bring their racist hate culture to our shore's,Looking at most of these country they come from are suffering from pollution and over populated with a number of Human health rights problems truth be known.
God knows their to many already!
Oh is that right, is that why immigrants from the islands create so much crime and european immigrants such as the numerous scotish doctors, the english engineers and nurses, the swiss biochemists and pharmacoligists contribute so much to our infrastructure and health system that YOU rely on. Next time your in hospital and a scottish doctor is trying to save your sorry ass, say "na bro get me one of them kiwi doctors" to which they reply "ahh sorry theve all left to australia how bout we just let you die ?"
Akiwi

Auckland, New Zealand

#21 Nov 1, 2008
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text> Oh is that right, is that why immigrants from the islands create so much crime and european immigrants such as the numerous scotish doctors, the english engineers and nurses, the swiss biochemists and pharmacoligists contribute so much to our infrastructure and health system that YOU rely on. Next time your in hospital and a scottish doctor is trying to save your sorry ass, say "na bro get me one of them kiwi doctors" to which they reply "ahh sorry theve all left to australia how bout we just let you die ?"
Yes ,that's right chap! Get over it.
My health is pretty good at the moment,but thanks anyway.Now a scottish doctor saving my a.s,Not ever! English maybe, or even Asian,but I can't say that a scottish Doc has lately, if ever.
Die you say, blowing your bag pipe's a bit much.

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