Foreign Fighters Bring a Global Agenda to Syria

Great uncertainty continues to shroud the ideological composition of the insurgency that is raging across Syria.

[Syrian]

This has been known all along! Foreigners are behind this entire insurgency.

[rio]

Syrian wrote:

This has been known all along! Foreigners are behind this entire insurgency.

But are you surprised?
Bashar al-Assad and the Ba'ath Party have hardly made friends in the region over the years!
Apart from the brutal repression at home, the Alawi minority in power has been supporting the Shia cause (Iran), sponsoring Hamas and Hezbollah, etc...
Not only Syria has been feared in the region, but it has alienated the Arab world, by allying with Iran. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are its enemies.
Many salafists have also resented the repression of the Muslim Brotherhood and wish to topple the regime.
And, of course, many of Assad's opponents have been manipulated -unknowingly perhaps, to serve the interests of Israel for whom Syria has always been a threat.
A weak Syria will also please Washington and affect Russia's presence in the Mediteranea.
So, it's no surprise to see foreign interests at play in this insurgency!

[john syed]

The evidence of involvement of foreign elements in Syria is abundantly clear. The West vetted by Saudia, Qatar and Turkey are playing their full dregatory role in destruction of life and infra structure to satisfy their personal goal of pushing Asad out of office.
Similar approaces to push the leaders of Saudia, Qatar and Turkey out of their respective offices shall bring the cool breeze of calming down the fires of war as primarily they do no enjoy the support of thir own people.

Assuming fall of Asad, the new Government in Syria is bound to be extreme fundamentalistic spilling more blood in sectarian revenge. The resutant set up is bound to be against West and particularly Deadly against Israel.

In pursuit of revenge on personal animosity, hatred and falsified justification will defeat the very ostensible objective we are fooling the people with ie., restoration of democracy and respect for human rights.
. The leaders are indulged in destructive conspiracies to serve their personal ends at the the huge cost of destruction and killings. Any institutional safeguard such as democracy that fails to win the dignity of humans is not worth pursuing. Lets abstain from supplying men, amunition, training and equipment to foreign rebels by helping regime to establish norm. We will achieve the same result without firing a bullet as Asad shall voluntarily agree to change of guards within very first few years ofjrestoring status quo.

[Chris]

Sure it is not surprise, but the Monarchies are relict from the past, and without American support for the Gulf Monarchies the events would go to favour Iran and Hezbollah, because they are fighting for the just cause; the independence of their countries from foreign meddling. The Western support for Israel and Monarchies offsets the natural flow of events. There is reshuffling in Global forces; the outcome is yet to be seen.

[rio]

john syed wrote:

The evidence of involvement of foreign elements in Syria is abundantly clear. The West vetted by Saudia, Qatar and Turkey are playing their full dregatory role in destruction of life and infra structure to satisfy their personal goal of pushing Asad out of office.
Similar approaces to push the leaders of Saudia, Qatar and Turkey out of their respective offices shall bring the cool breeze of calming down the fires of war as primarily they do no enjoy the support of thir own people.
Assuming fall of Asad, the new Government in Syria is bound to be extreme fundamentalistic spilling more blood in sectarian revenge. The resutant set up is bound to be against West and particularly Deadly against Israel.
In pursuit of revenge on personal animosity, hatred and falsified justification will defeat the very ostensible objective we are fooling the people with ie., restoration of democracy and respect for human rights.
. The leaders are indulged in destructive conspiracies to serve their personal ends at the the huge cost of destruction and killings. Any institutional safeguard such as democracy that fails to win the dignity of humans is not worth pursuing. Lets abstain from supplying men, amunition, training and equipment to foreign rebels by helping regime to establish norm. We will achieve the same result without firing a bullet as Asad shall voluntarily agree to change of guards within very first few years ofjrestoring status quo.

It maybe that Washington and Tel Aviv gamble that a destabilised Middle East region lead by extremists is less a threat than stable secular autocracies.
That looks like the wrong move to be in the long term.
One by one, the strong rulers are 'removed' to make place to unknow governments who have trouble to assert their authorities at home and are paralysed by internal discord in their countries.
Who is really ruling Tunisia, Libya or Egypt, for example?

[rio]

Chris wrote:

Sure it is not surprise, but the Monarchies are relict from the past, and without American support for the Gulf Monarchies the events would go to favour Iran and Hezbollah, because they are fighting for the just cause; the independence of their countries from foreign meddling. The Western support for Israel and Monarchies offsets the natural flow of events. There is reshuffling in Global forces; the outcome is yet to be seen.

The Gulf monarchies are backing the salafists in other countries. That's why they are not threatened at home yet, but their time may come.
Beside its endemic corruption, the Saudi monarchy is really compromised in the eyes of many Arabs now, for allowing US troops permanently stationed on its territory.

[Syrian]

rio wrote:

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It maybe that Washington and Tel Aviv gamble that a destabilised Middle East region lead by extremists is less a threat than stable secular autocracies.
That looks like the wrong move to be in the long term.
One by one, the strong rulers are 'removed' to make place to unknow governments who have trouble to assert their authorities at home and are paralysed by internal discord in their countries.
Who is really ruling Tunisia, Libya or Egypt, for example?

Supporting insurrection in the Middle East is beyond moronic. The West and clueless zionists will wind up with Islamic extremist governments that would be far more hostile to their security and interests.

[rio]

Syrian wrote:

<quoted text> Supporting insurrection in the Middle East is beyond moronic. The West and clueless zionists will wind up with Islamic extremist governments that would be far more hostile to their security and interests.

As I said, that may be a gamble the West is ready to take. I would predict that any Arab country falling in the hands of Islamic fanatics would be inefficient, torn with dissent, and no present a danger outside. Countries like Libya and Egypt (possibly Syria in future)will be unstable for the foreseable future and preoccupied by internal problems, before devoting themselves to a coherent foreign policy. The West and Israel could even maintain the chaos by supporting different factions. That's my analysis of it.

[jo jo]

rio wrote:

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As I said, that may be a gamble the West is ready to take. I would predict that any Arab country falling in the hands of Islamic fanatics would be inefficient, torn with dissent, and no present a danger outside. Countries like Libya and Egypt (possibly Syria in future)will be unstable for the foreseable future and preoccupied by internal problems, before devoting themselves to a coherent foreign policy. The West and Israel could even maintain the chaos by supporting different factions. That's my analysis of it.

EXACTLY, it's got nothing to do with democracy or freedom as some idiots believe it is,it's all about destablizing a country ,so stop blaming Assad for all the deaths and bloodshed, those two faced basdards in the west are behind this unrest by using religion for their political agenda, the west doesn't give a shit about loss of life or who's running the country as long as it keeps that country busy with internal problems.

[rio]

jo jo wrote:

<quoted text>EXACTLY, it's got nothing to do with democracy or freedom as some idiots believe it is,it's all about destablizing a country ,so stop blaming Assad for all the deaths and bloodshed, those two faced basdards in the west are behind this unrest by using religion for their political agenda, the west doesn't give a shit about loss of life or who's running the country as long as it keeps that country busy with internal problems.

It's just for propaganda that the West blames Assad for the bloodshed. He is in their bad book, and he has to go.

[Syrian]

rio wrote:

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As I said, that may be a gamble the West is ready to take. I would predict that any Arab country falling in the hands of Islamic fanatics would be inefficient, torn with dissent, and no present a danger outside. Countries like Libya and Egypt (possibly Syria in future)will be unstable for the foreseable future and preoccupied by internal problems, before devoting themselves to a coherent foreign policy. The West and Israel could even maintain the chaos by supporting different factions. That's my analysis of it.

I disagree. If Islamic extremists linked to AlQaeda took over Libya or any other Arab State, they would have the capacity to cause unimaginable horror for the West, and be able to export terrorism on a global scale.

[Ayreshire]

Syrian wrote:

This has been known all along! Foreigners are behind this entire insurgency.

According to the Assadomites, any Country that happens to condemn your hero and employer Assad are somehow involved in the overthrow?? Tell us all Assadomites how the hell the French, the West, The U.N., the Arab League, Zionists, joe bag of donuts down the street are in Syria and what the hell has it got to do with your hero and employer Assad murdering 20,000 plus of his own people?

Get your sorry REAR END out of West and take your filthy lying propaganda MACCHINE with you!! GET BACK TO SYRIA YOU PAID ASSADOMITE SOCK PUPPET!! Get it RIGHT ASSADOMITE LIAR!! They are called patriots trying to get rid of a ruthless dictator imbecile! Hey Paid Assadomite sock puppet, why have most countries in the world condemned your hero Assad??

Here we go again! Reposting filthy disgusting Lies and cannot back them up what-so-ever!! BLAMING EVERYONE EXCEPT YOUR EMPLOYER ASSAD IS GETTING YOU NOWHERE!! What the hell does the McCain, Hilary, The West, Jews and Zionists have anything to do with your hero Assad murdering 20,000 plus of his own people! Get the hell out of the West scumbag and get your rear end back to Syria!

First it is the west, then it's not the west, then it's the U.S., then it's not the U.S., Then it's the west, then it's not the west, then it's the U.S., then it's not the U.S., Then it's the west, then it's not the west, then it's the U.S., then it's not the U.S., Then it's the west, then it's not the west, Then it's the Zionist making you hero Assad murder 20,000 of his own people. Talk about one blooming uneducated paid Assad Sock Puppet! Zip it pumpkin head!!

The blood dummy is on yours and your hero Assad's Hands! You being the lying propagandist in the WEST (that you condemn all the time) and Assad doing the dirty work!! Zionists did not kill 20,000 Syrians. Your hero Assad did it!! Stop the blame game ignorant nonsense when Zionists have nothing, nada, Zilch to do with Syrian patriots trying to get rid of a ruthless Dictator! But then that's what you getting paid for isn't it? To blame everyone except the clown that pays you??

[Ayreshire]

Syrian wrote:

<quoted text> I disagree. If Islamic extremists linked to AlQaeda took over Libya or any other Arab State, they would have the capacity to cause unimaginable horror for the West, and be able to export terrorism on a global scale.

And the WEST wants your sorry rear end out of the USA!! Take your filthy lying propaganda machine back to Syria with you!! The Syrian Patriots are waiting for you for their National Day of hanging those involved with the Assad Propaganda Ministry! I'll be the one passing out the free beer and pizza!

[Syrian]

jo jo wrote:

<quoted text>EXACTLY, it's got nothing to do with democracy or freedom as some idiots believe it is,it's all about destablizing a country ,so stop blaming Assad for all the deaths and bloodshed, those two faced basdards in the west are behind this unrest by using religion for their political agenda, the west doesn't give a shit about loss of life or who's running the country as long as it keeps that country busy with internal problems.

Exactly!!! The West and ziowipes are behind all of this!!

[Mike Schlopert]

The Arabs need 1st to mas=ke peace among themselves, then with Israel, otherwise, this Idiotoc status quo'll remain till the Nukes'll wipe out the whole Middle East which is very primitive and barbaric!

[orion]

Mike Schlopert wrote:

The Arabs need 1st to mas=ke peace among themselves, then with Israel, otherwise, this Idiotoc status quo'll remain till the Nukes'll wipe out the whole Middle East which is very primitive and barbaric!

That has nothing to do about the Arabs fighting among themselves. It has all to do with the American economy. In the thirties it was Nazism, then the Japanese, after the war it was Russia, then it was China, now it is the Muslims. First you build these country up to have a worthwhile enemy, then you have a big war to destroy them. As one of the Rothschild once said: "You make money in the building of a world and the destruction of another one". The bottom line is always money. The demonisation of Islam will create a vast pool of enemies, which the "holy warriors of the West" must go and fight. Millions in weaponry will be spent, then as the situation deteriorate, and it will, as it is part of the script, the American people will be conditionned into accepting the draft and send their sons to get killed all over the Muslim world. If the war somehow falters, US secrets in weaponry will be leaked to the other side to allow the enemy to have enough power to resist "the West" . That is what happened in the Cold War. Big wars are planned which will reduce the world population substantially so that a certain group will be able to run the world and the rest of the human cattle will be their slaves. I am sure Ayreshire knows all about it.

[Syrian]

orion wrote:

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That has nothing to do about the Arabs fighting among themselves. It has all to do with the American economy. In the thirties it was Nazism, then the Japanese, after the war it was Russia, then it was China, now it is the Muslims. First you build these country up to have a worthwhile enemy, then you have a big war to destroy them. As one of the Rothschild once said: "You make money in the building of a world and the destruction of another one". The bottom line is always money. The demonisation of Islam will create a vast pool of enemies, which the "holy warriors of the West" must go and fight. Millions in weaponry will be spent, then as the situation deteriorate, and it will, as it is part of the script, the American people will be conditionned into accepting the draft and send their sons to get killed all over the Muslim world. If the war somehow falters, US secrets in weaponry will be leaked to the other side to allow the enemy to have enough power to resist "the West" . That is what happened in the Cold War. Big wars are planned which will reduce the world population substantially so that a certain group will be able to run the world and the rest of the human cattle will be their slaves. I am sure Ayreshire knows all about it.

LOL!!! EXCELLENT POST!!!!

[Ayreshire]

Syrian wrote:

<quoted text> LOL!!! EXCELLENT POST!!!!

Speaking of Checks! Has Assad paid you clowns your back Pay yet? You were complaining the other day that you were going to stop the lies and propaganda if you were not paid in full!!

[Ayreshire]

orion wrote:

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That has nothing to do about the Arabs fighting among themselves. It has all to do with the American economy. In the thirties it was Nazism, then the Japanese, after the war it was Russia, then it was China, now it is the Muslims. First you build these country up to have a be able to run the world and the rest of the human cattle will be their slaves. I am sure Ayreshire knows all about it.

Oh Really Clown!!
The Islamic Genocide Records of MUSLIM on MUSLIM killings:
- 50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
- 40,000 Chad, 1982-90
- 25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
- 20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
- 10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
- 16,000 Western Sahara, 1975-present
- 75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
- 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
- 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
- 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
- 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
- 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
- 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
- 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
- 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
- 200,000 Algeria, 1991-2006 (between Islamists and the government)
- 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
- 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
- 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
Nor is Iraq (Sunni versus Shiite) the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.

[Ayreshire]

jo jo wrote:

<quoted text>EXACTLY, it's got nothing to do with democracy or freedom as some idiots believe it is,it's all about destablizing a country ,so stop blaming Assad for all the deaths and bloodshed, those two faced basdards in the west are behind this unrest by using religion for their political agenda, the west doesn't give a shit about loss of life or who's running the country as long as it keeps that country busy with internal problems.

Syria was such a peaceful country as long as everyone obeyed your hero Assad!! They got sick and tired of it!! Hey dummy! It started out with bottles and rocks!! Then your hero Assad used Rockets, grenades, tanks, aircraft? Get real and get a clue!! 20,000 plus of his own people murdered at the hands of your hero Assad! Do you see very many Syrians from Syria Posting?? That's because Assad has a short leash on everyone!! Funny how you clowns live in a country that grants you all the freedom in the world to write your nonsense. The Syrian people have no freedom so what do you clowns do? You stand up for a ruthless Assad Dictator!! And to top it off, somehow Israel and West are involved. The U.S., amazingly U.N., NATO, The Arab League and the list goes on and on have condemned ASSAD. Most civilized countries have elections so when you have brutal Dictators like China, Syria, and Iran there is no way to get rid of the tyrants other than by force!! The people are stuck with their ruthless Dictators their whole lives and then when that clown passes, daddy appoints another ruthless Dictator and this is an endless cycle! It's like a nightmare that will not go away!! I don't blame the people one bit!! Folks! Ask yourself why Jo JO is not in Syria while hiding out in the WEST! He's a filthy disgusting Paid Assad Sock Puppet! Period!
China, Venezuela and Iran supports Syria and guess what? There is NO freedom in any of those countries either!