Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,456

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

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#11254 May 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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And in the U.S., if he had killed them 2 inches before birth, it would be legal.
Religions are nasty business - especially Liberalism.
Liberalism isn a religion.

But at least you admit that religions like creationism are nasty business. Maybe you are developing some kind of honesty?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11255 May 29, 2013
She is a looney tune Muslim used to post under Siro and said the same crap.
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>I do hope homeland security are watching you closely, you're quite unhinged.

How many times have you read the Turner Diaries...this week?

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#11256 May 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Your faulty creationist lies are no match for observable reality.
Atheism and Genocide

As Britain's socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile's Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th anniversary of this century's bloodlest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet's head don't want to be reminded of the Unknown Holocaust. 

In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine's millions of independent farmers - called kulaks - into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine's growing spirit of nationalism. 
Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow - earlier versions of Mao's Red Guards - to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of recalcitrant farmers. 

When Stalin's red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death - mass starvation. 
All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from Ukraine's farms.(Ethiopia's Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Marjam used the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.) 

OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.

Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness. 

When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter. 

During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch and 0GPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children. 

The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was exterminated.....

http://faminegenocide.com/resources/unknown.h...

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Since: Aug 11

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#11257 May 29, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
I do hope homeland security are watching you closely, you're quite unhinged.
How many times have you read the Turner Diaries...this week?
Victims of Atheist's genocides

Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war dead.

Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe's Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine's genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world's gaze. But Stalin's murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: "I did not see one under-nourished person in Russia." New York Times correspondent Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of famine were "malignant propaganda." Seven million people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated Duranty's lies.

Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical roots are entwined with this century's greatest crime - the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.

Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and Stalin's other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called "Uncle Joe," murdered four times more people than AdoIf Hitler.

None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state pension....

http://faminegenocide.com/resources/unknown.h...

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Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#11258 May 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Your faulty creationist lies are no match for observable reality.
Stalin's Jews

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.
 
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
 
All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened

to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

 
And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."
 
Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.
 
Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
 
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
 
In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.....

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-334...

Since: Jun 07

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#11259 May 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Stalin's Jews
In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.
 
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.
 
All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened
to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.
 
And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."
 
Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.
 
Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
 
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
 
In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.....
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-334...
Religious lies, no proof of god and no morals.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11260 May 29, 2013
You really don't think anyone is going to take your tinfoil hat site seriously do you?

Anyways the deaths in the former USSR were in the name of totalitarianism not atheism. No atheist on here are fans of totalitarianism. So your lame argument falls apart.

Moreover would you like to see the millions of deaths from execution and starvation done by the Tsars who said they were hand picked by god?

I doubt it.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Victims of totalitarianism.

http://faminegenocide.com/resources/unknown.h...

Since: May 11

UK

#11261 May 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious lies, no proof of god and no morals.
with that poster it's more about what he doesn't say, than what he does.

Please allow me to complete the article,

"Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always remind us of their origin."

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Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#11262 May 29, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious lies, no proof of god and no morals.
Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11263 May 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
But atheism has never provided any motivation for violence. There are no atheist suicide bombers or riots against cartoons.

Religion/atheism has nothing to do with morality. Religion certainly doesn't make people or governments more moral. Religion is based on superstitions and myths, such as Abrahamic god(s). It simply demonstrates a lack of rationality - hardly a characteristic associated with peace or compromise.

Religion contributes to (or even drives) a lot of madness these days. There's the Lee Rigsby murder, Iraq's bomb-blasts, the refusal by Islamists in Syria to help form a united SNC. The madness is endless...

From:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013...
The ruling is based on national laws that a father cannot be executed for murdering his children, nor can husbands be executed for murdering their wives, activists said.

From:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...
Under international law all of the settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegal.

From:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...
It’s almost refreshing. Rather than hide solely behind pronouncements of multi-culti “respect,” the university admits that it felt so cowed by even the possibility of Islamic violence on campus that it issued what can only be called a preëmptive capitulation.
By doing so, funnily enough, ANU singles out Islam as a uniquely violent and backwards faith, whose followers are unable to restrain themselves when a few people crack a joke about it.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11264 May 29, 2013
How many genocides are being done in Sweden?

Yes we know you will refuse to answer.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#11265 May 29, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
How many genocides are being done in Sweden?
Yes we know you will refuse to answer.
<quoted text>
that was to someone else, but I am curious about the point you are making. please continue. I suspect that the people from scandinavian countries are less bloodthirsty now than in previous times, or than people from many other nations, if you are providing data.... but they may be victims of extremists who hate their peacefulness and social welfare systems.

I do not think extremists hit the US for that reason, because I do not think we are as peaceful or as caring about the welfare of all our people as Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are. I think extremists hit the US because of US invasions of other countries, or overthrow of leaders of other countries, as in Iran in the mid-50's. I also think the crusading spirit of a few of the powerful US rightwing warmongering Christians is more offensive to folks of other religions than the more tolerant views of most scandinavians.

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United States of America

#11266 May 29, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>But atheism has never provided any motivation for violence. There are no atheist suicide bombers or riots against cartoons.
Religion/atheism has nothing to do with morality. Religion certainly doesn't make people or governments more moral. Religion is based on superstitions and myths, such as Abrahamic god(s). It simply demonstrates a lack of rationality - hardly a characteristic associated with peace or compromise.
Religion contributes to (or even drives) a lot of madness these days. There's the Lee Rigsby murder, Iraq's bomb-blasts, the refusal by Islamists in Syria to help form a united SNC. The madness is endless...
From:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013...
The ruling is based on national laws that a father cannot be executed for murdering his children, nor can husbands be executed for murdering their wives, activists said.
From:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-2...
Under international law all of the settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegal.
From:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...
It’s almost refreshing. Rather than hide solely behind pronouncements of multi-culti “respect,” the university admits that it felt so cowed by even the possibility of Islamic violence on campus that it issued what can only be called a preëmptive capitulation.
By doing so, funnily enough, ANU singles out Islam as a uniquely violent and backwards faith, whose followers are unable to restrain themselves when a few people crack a joke about it.
Again, Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

BTW Most Israeli zionazis are atheist nationalists and have been engaged in a genocide against the Palestinian people in particular and Muslims in general for over 70 years. When the zionazis are not busy robbing and killing Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they and their paid liars-for-hire plaster internet blogs with anti-Muslim hate messages like you're doing. Ironically, those hate messages are the smoking gun evidence that atheists like you don't have a shred of decency or morality, bubba.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11267 May 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.
No it isn't. They weren't motivated by atheism and religion wouldn't have stopped them.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
BTW Most Israeli zionazis are atheist nationalists and have been engaged in a genocide against the Palestinian people in particular and Muslims in general for over 70 years. When the zionazis are not busy robbing and killing Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they and their paid liars-for-hire plaster internet blogs with anti-Muslim hate messages like you're doing. Ironically, those hate messages are the smoking gun evidence that atheists like you don't have a shred of decency or morality, bubba.
You understand nothing. And you say I don't have a shred of decency. Well, our words are here for any to judge for themselves.



Religion = superstition
Only fools fool themselves.
JMHO

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#11268 May 29, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>No it isn't. They weren't motivated by atheism and religion wouldn't have stopped them.
<quoted text>You understand nothing. And you say I don't have a shred of decency. Well, our words are here for any to judge for themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =yRhq-yO1KN8XX
Religion = superstition
Only fools fool themselves.
JMHO
Yeah, right, bubba.

It's just a weird coincidence that all these genocidal political regimes were run by lying, thieving, murdering atheists......

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#11269 May 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, right, bubba.
It's just a weird coincidence that all these genocidal political regimes were run by lying, thieving, murdering atheists......
You mean Saddam Hussein, Assad and Qaddafi were atheists? Because they certainly were lying thieves who committed genocide and crimes against humanity.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11270 May 29, 2013
Tell us about all the genocides being done and planned in Sweden. There have been no genocides done in the name of atheism. Not one. And yes you will cower away from this.

Have there been a few bloody totalitarian leaders who were non believers? Sure.

I have yet to see one genocide committed in the name of atheism.

But I can show several done in the name of religion.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Again, Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

BTW Most Israeli zionazis are atheist nationalists and have been engaged in a genocide against the Palestinian people in particular and Muslims in general for over 70 years. When the zionazis are not busy robbing and killing Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they and their paid liars-for-hire plaster internet blogs with anti-Muslim hate messages like you're doing. Ironically, those hate messages are the smoking gun evidence that atheists like you don't have a shred of decency or morality, bubba.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#11271 May 29, 2013
waleed sadat wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean Saddam Hussein, Assad and Qaddafi were atheists? Because they certainly were lying thieves who committed genocide and crimes against humanity.
What I said was when the zionazis are not busy robbing and killing Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they and their paid liars-for-hire plaster internet blogs with anti-Muslim hate messages like you're doing.

And speaking of lying, thieving, murdering genocidal atheists and crimes against humanity, how many Palestinian men, women, and/or children have you killed for "greater Israel" today, bubba?

IDF T-Shirts Boast of Killing Babies, Pregnant Women, Sodomizing Hamas Leaders

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/isra...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#11272 May 29, 2013
Meanwhile in Palestine little girls are sold to old men and raped. Women are beaten and flogged in the streets.

You need to learn a little something about reality.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>What I said was when the zionazis are not busy robbing and killing Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they and their paid liars-for-hire plaster internet blogs with anti-Muslim hate messages like you're doing.

And speaking of lying, thieving, murdering genocidal atheists and crimes against humanity, how many Palestinian men, women, and/or children have you killed for "greater Israel" today, bubba?

IDF T-Shirts Boast of Killing Babies, Pregnant Women, Sodomizing Hamas Leaders

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/isra...

Since: May 11

UK

#11273 May 30, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheist genocides are historical FACT, bubba.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
Atheism isn't a cause or a philosophy which people fight die and/or are killed for. If a person is killed in the name of a belief it's generally done by those of an opposing religious viewpoint. Currently the christians in egypt are having a very hard time at the hands of the muslims and the jews in israel the same, the irish catholics killed the protestants the shia are killing the sunni...etc and so on.

Being killed in the name of atheism is just like being killed by a dark haired person because you have red hair, it just doesn't happen.

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